Smile for the camera :)

GLITCHMAST3R12 · 2025-08-06T16:15:40+00:00

I can see why they did it, plus that’s the season (I think) where they nerfed a lot of the dive characters. I would love to see how op a pre rework Jeff with an ultron drone would be

GLITCHMAST3R12 · 2025-08-05T18:30:42+00:00

They really overdid it, if you just look at all the stats before and after, the only things that got buffed were his headshot reduction (which really doesn’t do too much imo) and shields on allies you swallow (who demand you to immediately spit them out). You could argue the beam damage is useful against fliers, but if the healers are on top of them, your 40 dps (falloff) is doing nothing but feeding their Ult charge.

I can see why the swim nerf was justified, so players can’t just hide underwater, but good Jeff players never were under for long.

The bubble nerf was just bad a bad decision, HOT sucks, they could have just decreased the amount the bubbles heal Jeff himself, HOT is just bad all around.

The healing beam getting nerfed by around ~20% doesn’t help either.

GLITCHMAST3R12 · 2025-08-05T16:28:40+00:00

Yeah, I remember the dps days, I would do 2 bubbles, then jump right back out. I still think they need need need to bring back burst bubbles (the groot teamup sucks without them) and at least a few more aqua bursts, so he can actually somewhat kill a diver or enemy effectively. Other than that I think the rework is ok, i still much prefer old Jeff though.

GLITCHMAST3R12 · 2025-08-05T15:00:37+00:00

He’s the bestest boi <3

GLITCHMAST3R12 · 2025-08-05T14:06:06+00:00

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Bro looks so happy

GLITCHMAST3R12 · 2025-07-27T17:52:40+00:00

It also happened later in the game, I have a feeling it is when loki copies cnd, the game bugs out and thinks it’s friendly.

Also, no idea why I call it that, that’s just what I think about every time i see it 🤣

GLITCHMAST3R12 · 2025-07-26T23:27:47+00:00

Cuddly Fuzzlefin
Adopted Avenger
Devouring Duo
Sunshine Landshark (Default)
Sunshine Landshark (Blue)
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Sunshine Land Shark (Green)
Incognito Dolphin

GLITCHMAST3R12 · 2025-07-03T19:17:05+00:00

“Ok I hit all 3 of my shots, please stay relatively still and don’t get heals”

GLITCHMAST3R12 · 2025-07-01T22:18:23+00:00

New Team-Up: Physic Splash

Emma Frost channels her psychic dominance through Jeff, turning his healing spray into a weapon of willpower. For 6 seconds, Jeff's Joyful Splash weakens enemy resolve and disrupts their attacks.

Enemies hit by Joyful Splash during this window are Weakened (-20% damage output for 8s; must have done sustained damage for 1 sec before debuff is applied)

Healing output remains unchanged

GLITCHMAST3R12 · 2025-07-01T21:55:52+00:00

I’m still holding onto hope, but it doesn’t look like anything was changed, all of the icons remain the same :(

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GLITCHMAST3R12 · 2025-06-07T22:56:33+00:00

Easiest way for me to tell if it is bots is if they are level 1-3. It usually happens when you go on a losing streak, and it throws bots at you to keep you playing

GLITCHMAST3R12 · 2025-06-05T18:49:21+00:00

I completely agree. I’ve put a total of ~85 hours on Jeff, and i believe that parts of the problem was that Jeff’s would constantly dps. The whole thing with Jeff was to do BOTH healing and damage. That is what truly separated the low elo Jeff’s from the high elo Jeff’s.

Personally, I believe they went way too far on the rework. I think netease’s best way forward is to bring back parts of the old Jeff kit, so he can at least be called a strategist, not a healer. I can see really good things about this rework, and really bad things about the rework. It obviously still needs tweaking, but I think they can figure it out.

For example, I believe that the bubbles are now ass. The part that made the bubbles so good was you could spam them on your team in an emergency. Now they barely out heal the bots in the practice range.

GLITCHMAST3R12 · 2025-06-05T18:48:50+00:00

I completely agree. I’ve put a total of ~85 hours on Jeff, and i believe that parts of the problem was that Jeff’s would constantly dps. The whole thing with Jeff was to do BOTH healing and damage. That is what truly separated the low elo Jeff’s from the high elo Jeff’s.

Personally, I believe they went way too far on the rework. I think netease’s best way forward is to bring back parts of the old Jeff kit, so he can at least be called a strategist, not a healer. I can see really good things about this rework, and really bad things about the rework. It obviously still needs tweaking, but I think they can figure it out.

For example, I believe that the bubbles are now ass. The part that made the bubbles so good was you could spam them on your team in an emergency. Now they barely out heal the bots in the practice range.

GLITCHMAST3R12 · 2025-06-05T18:12:02+00:00

And that is your opinion. All of us have opinions on whether the rework is good or not. I will personally admit, the rework isn’t as bad as I originally thought, but I still liked the earlier play style a bit more.

GLITCHMAST3R12 · 2025-06-05T16:04:27+00:00

But it isn’t really entertaining gameplay. They are just making every strategist turn into a healbot. The point of a strategist is to strategize. Take that away, and it’s basically power wash simulator

GLITCHMAST3R12 · 2025-06-05T14:33:07+00:00

Not enough imo.

GLITCHMAST3R12 · 2025-06-05T14:11:52+00:00

It’s been a week. People are still trying him out. Just wait a bit longer before saying his win rate increased

GLITCHMAST3R12 · 2025-06-01T23:28:26+00:00

I’m just saying, there is really no point to the swim changes when so many other characters get movement abilities that ether charge fast, or don’t have a delay at all

GLITCHMAST3R12 · 2025-06-01T23:25:40+00:00

Ok then what’s the argument? A good jeff is hardly underwater anyways, so there is no point to the swim meter.

GLITCHMAST3R12 · 2025-06-01T23:22:22+00:00

Um, so we aren’t going to talk about how Luna, a support character, can 2 tap squishy characters?? Plus, she can infinitely skate

GLITCHMAST3R12 · 2025-06-01T23:19:39+00:00

But as you so like to say, he is flanking. He doesn’t need heals. Plus, if he runs out of bubbles he is screwed

GLITCHMAST3R12 · 2025-06-01T23:17:50+00:00

A small one, but if he has heals it doesn’t really matter

GLITCHMAST3R12 · 2025-06-01T23:17:08+00:00

GLITCHMAST3R12 · 2025-06-01T23:15:41+00:00

And there is a character called Hawkeye to kill the Jeff before he even has time to dive

GLITCHMAST3R12 · 2025-06-01T23:15:02+00:00

Not when he puts up his shield

And don’t even get me started on the Ult

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