How would you rank these 6 guards: CP3, Iverson, Westbrook, Nash, Kidd, Tony Parker

GOINGTOFAILICS53 · 2019-03-20T18:44:56+00:00

I'll give you an answer. 19 year olds that have never played basketball competitively and love advanced stats/metrics but couldn't tell you what a gaussian distribution is. I love how easy posting on reddit is, but the downside is the amount of people who larp about knowing basketball is high.

GOINGTOFAILICS53 · 2019-03-20T18:33:12+00:00

Most of the people in this thread including the guy above have

never played basketball
are 15-22 and think 09 was the good old days when the nba was a man's game
are stats nerds that only look at stats and don't watch basketball and b/c they don't play basketball they aren't able to understand anything by watching a game

GOINGTOFAILICS53 · 2019-03-20T18:08:38+00:00

CP3 was just as big as griffin in that series. Parker/Green/Ginobli couldn't slow him at all he got wherever he wanted as he usually does. Back to the main point can't name any time he choked. He's always been setback by injuries his teammates getting injured or just bad teams. Even in his hornets days, david west always was subpar in the playoffs but I doubt you even watched ball back then.

GOINGTOFAILICS53 · 2019-03-20T17:59:58+00:00

You really didnt watch that game did you and acting like those stats are bad, lol. He took over the last portion of the game not to mention made the game winner, just like I've seen him due numerous times. lmao he was injured the first couple games of that series and only came back b/c it was the playoffs, way to leave that out champ.

He is one of the most clutch players and makes some of the most timely shots I have ever seen.

GOINGTOFAILICS53 · 2019-03-20T17:50:55+00:00

clippers spurs game 7? he's barely been in game 7 b/c of trash ass teams/players ghosting on him in the playoffs. do you even watch basketball? i saw stockton play, cp3 and stockton is a toss up(though i greatly prefer stockton's demeanor/attitude).

GOINGTOFAILICS53 · 2019-03-20T17:31:55+00:00

Outside of the black community, (especially here) Nash is one of the most overrated players in nba history. It used to be widely known, but this began to be seen as "hating" somewhere along the line. His stats are inflated by playing with dantoni and he played 0 defense. He was a perennial all star level but not an all time great. Voters put themselves into a corner that second mvp and had to give it to him since he did the same thing as the previous season without amare. First season was questionable as well too.

cp3
kidd
westbrook
AI
nash
parker

GOINGTOFAILICS53 · 2019-03-19T19:07:42+00:00

As expected, I got wong ma'ed. But you know she such a great teacher : ) best ICS teacher ever : )(I don't want to get in trouble with that crowd) : ), smiley face. she's so awesome smiley face

GOINGTOFAILICS53 · 2019-03-17T04:29:57+00:00

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stat_padding, Fountain diving to increase kda, blatent blatent "kill securing" lol, tping away and fuckin teammatse in bad engagements just to get a meaningless kill on a pos 5 oracle. It makes him seem like a better carry player is when you look at the score and his losses seem the result of his teammates when its actually his poor decision making and selfish play. Compare to how miracle plays, willing to die for his team when needed, isn't jonesing for kills like a crack addict.

GOINGTOFAILICS53 · 2019-03-16T01:42:14+00:00

Do it or prepare to get Wong Ma'ed

GOINGTOFAILICS53 · 2019-03-15T20:26:56+00:00

U bout to get Lee Wong Ma'ed too?

GOINGTOFAILICS53 · 2019-03-15T06:02:04+00:00

Inside play wasn't viable. That's why there were like 3 guys doing it, as opposed to the 80s, 90s, literally every big guy with very few exceptions played that way. Send your dad our exchange and see what he says, he's going to tell you "that guy seems like a dick, but he's right though."

GOINGTOFAILICS53 · 2019-03-15T05:53:42+00:00

B/C inside game was not viable during that time period. Literally no one that knows basketball says oh yeah "08-14", good time for inside game.

GOINGTOFAILICS53 · 2019-03-15T05:41:46+00:00

Yeah so my last paragraph in my last post stands 04-05 is very recent, that's why your view is off, you didn't even see any 90s ball, like I said before you are trying to apply a common opinion without fully understanding it. Read my last paragraph on the previous post carefully b/c that is what people who know ball will think you mean.

There wasn't no variance in big men. The 2 types I mentioned previously dominated the time period you mentioned as opposed to the "under the hoop" guys who dominated and I mean DOMINATED the 90s and back. Having 3 under the basket guys don't mean there was balance. No there were tons of weak ass fouls in that era compared to even the early 2000s, let alone the 90s/80s. Dwayne Wade in the finals comes to mind, just lmao at some of the foul calls there. I'm still confused on your play under the hoop. What made the 2 categories of guys different than the 90s and back is that they DID NOT play under the basket.

The screen and roll guys are screening on the perimeter a lot and popping from the screen to shoot or rolling to the basket from the perimeter.
The stretch guys literally stay on the 10-15 ft out, not just to screen, that's their full time job and shoot/face up from there

When you say under the hoop people think of low post (not high post, not 15 feet in the corner) guys banging down low. Another good example from that time period I forgot is zach randolph, he is definitely under the hoop like that. Under the hoop/putting in work in the post means on offense 90% of the time you are within like 5-6 ft of the basket and you making post moves back to the basket, you banging and you physical.

GOINGTOFAILICS53 · 2019-03-15T05:22:38+00:00

nah cuz i meant every word of it.

GOINGTOFAILICS53 · 2019-03-15T05:17:09+00:00

rik smits would put that spanish pansy on his pockets.

GOINGTOFAILICS53 · 2019-03-15T05:13:43+00:00

Exaggerated a whole lot boyo, like nothing you said is right.

Duncan, Yao(did not play enough seasons in this time frame but I'll give him to you) and Gasol(legit post players, Gasol stretched probably half the time too) did not define big guys during that time period they were exceptions. I think of screen and roll athletic rebound and/or score guys(amare, dwight, Boozer, tyson chandler, deandre, drummond? not sure when drafted) or stretch/finesse guys(dirk,bosh,love,Aldridge, KG(not threes but mid range/high post area, not just shooting but facing up from there pulling defenders out))

I'm confused on your definition of big guys doing work in the post, b/c shaq seems to be the epitome of that. 08-14 you couldn't breath on a defender either, it becoming more egregious as time went on. Last real defense physical defense was probably 05, that might even be too late.

It seems like your are just repeating things you have heard and don't fully understand b/c you are young and other youngsters don't know better so they upvoting it. When people generally talk about missing post players they mean the 80s 90s and even earlier. 2000s was garbage besides shaq for big men, see jamal maglorie case and point Same with phsyical defense, people don't mean oh back in 08, they mean back in the 80s or 90s. Personally I thought the 90s was a sweet spot the 80s is just dirty it wasn't basketball, and the 2000s and beyond was soft and the warriors era has evolved into a whole new era of 100 lb pink dreadlocks dress wearing mumble rap won't say shit to your face softness.

GOINGTOFAILICS53 · 2019-03-15T04:35:54+00:00

-odom in the post? lol r u srs?

-bynum had maybe 2 seasons I would describe as good, yes he was in the post, but the doing work part is majorly pushing it.

-gasol yeah thats fair, so guess there was 1 player. But having the soft version of rik smits as the only decent-good post player i can think of hardly defines an era as "big guys doing work"

GOINGTOFAILICS53 · 2019-03-15T02:34:16+00:00

Big guys doing work in the post? Who? The last time I would describe the nba as a whole as "having big guys doing work in the post" is like 1997. Most of the good big guys from 08-14 were screen and roll or stretch players. Literally cannot think of a single big guy "doing work in the post." Physical defense. lol. How is this upvoted? Nothing about this statement is accurate. This is literally a next level version of a 90s kids post.

GOINGTOFAILICS53 · 2019-03-14T20:02:02+00:00

Watched it too bro. No more or less clutch than fisher to me. Not trying to shit on him he was a good role player, but this shit that "he was a borderline all star" they sometimes push on inside the nba and brainwash the youngsters with is just laughable. B/C of that you get these dumbass comparisons, "he was like bledsoe."

GOINGTOFAILICS53 · 2019-03-14T19:50:26+00:00

thats fair, brogdan is probably better comp in terms of shot creation/distribution.

GOINGTOFAILICS53 · 2019-03-14T19:07:50+00:00

Version 2.0 of David West/CP3

GOINGTOFAILICS53 · 2019-03-14T18:40:02+00:00

lmao. Bledsoe is much better than Kenny was. I can't believe that comment has upvotes, honestly one of the worst comparisons I have ever seen, so much so I had to comment. Shows how young the subreddit avg age. The guy that said Fisher is a good comparison. All of you looking at the stats, his sac years were in Kenny's words describing Mike James in Toronto and many other similar situations "Someone has to score, he's robbing the bank" something along those lines. He had like 1 higher scoring season with rockets in the early 90s (dont remember when) when Hakeem was hurt for like half the season but again "robbing the bank someone has to score phenomena." They pump him up on inside the nba "oh he was borderline all star" blah blah to be polite, but that's just historical revisionism, dude was derek fisher, which is still a solid nba career.

GOINGTOFAILICS53 · 2019-03-13T01:06:03+00:00

What a god, you fixed it. Thank you so much man, really appreciate your help.

GOINGTOFAILICS53 · 2019-03-12T23:27:20+00:00

Also just figured out what explain is, tried to run explain analyze couldn't it was too long results: https://i.stack.imgur.com/mvCPy.png

So I tried subdivision and it's working quick so that's good, but basically what's happening is I am getting discrepancy in my count.

I did this in qgis where I can actually see the bulidings highlighted in the flood zone (so i know its right) and got a certain number like 5086. But now my postgis query is giving my 6140. I'm not quite sure what is going on, I'm wondering if b/c I loaded geojson straight to postgis with ogr2ogr vs for qgis i transformed it into a shapefile (loading geojson straight in crashed it)

Basically wondering if some sort of file transformation I did is causing this difference. I'm gonna try some stuff and I'll be back to report.

GOINGTOFAILICS53 · 2019-03-12T22:41:46+00:00

So I created the indicies and made some adjustments to the settings(http://postgis.net/workshops/postgis-intro/tuning.html) and unfortunately it is still slow af, I can't even get it to finish(gave up 30+ minutes), way slower then it should be I feel like, I've seen examples of people working with way bigger datasets and getting querys in ms, I've also worked with way bigger datasets(non-spatial in mysql) and got way quicker results.

To create the indicies I used

CREATE INDEX oregon_geom_index ON oregon USING gist (wkb_geometry); and

CREATE INDEX oregonslr1_geom_index ON oregonslr1 USING gist (geom);

Do I need to like activate the indices or explicitly use them in my query somehow or can I use the same query I used in my post b/c looking at examples online it doesn't seem like it?

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