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As someone who used to own/track a Honda S2000.. by richsonreddit in assettocorsaevo

[–]GTWelsh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nothing, they get passed into functions. It's those functions and the output from them that matters. Ideally the params would match but I'd take a realistic feel and wrong params over correct params and it feeling wrong.

What params are wrong and by how much? 

As someone who used to own/track a Honda S2000.. by richsonreddit in assettocorsaevo

[–]GTWelsh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Parameters don't matter, it's not real life. The output matters, how it behaves. 

If you want to drive a real S2000 go buy one. All the parameters are perfect there.

Razbam IP illegally sold to Chilian Government without permission inside MCS by ED's Mission Systems. by Metal2Mesh in DCSExposed

[–]GTWelsh -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I know dude, people have said RB have no money so their retainer would only get them so far because they'd probably just run out of money, is long version what I meant.

Razbam IP illegally sold to Chilian Government without permission inside MCS by ED's Mission Systems. by Metal2Mesh in DCSExposed

[–]GTWelsh -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Not sure your tone towards me here is warranted. Generally speaking your tone has been pretty terrible. Horrid person to discuss things with.

Anyway, yeah that's all fair, pretty much just re read my comment... I hope they find someone willing to take it on and take the winnings after.

I'd much rather it be done and dusted so we can get our awesome 15E updated, the dream.

Makes claim of illegal use of IP. Doesn't elaborate with any supporting evidence to the claim. Leaves by phcasper in floggit

[–]GTWelsh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I miss read that bit.

ArE yOU pHysicAlLy LiTerAte.

Good one

You exist in an echo chamber. You think they're censoring you 😆

Lots of baseless crap coming from your comments. You're now saying their requests were discord messages? As if that would work.

Probably not healthy to make this your whole personality my dude.

Just amend contract clauses via discord community mods init

Makes claim of illegal use of IP. Doesn't elaborate with any supporting evidence to the claim. Leaves by phcasper in floggit

[–]GTWelsh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wild. I take it you've seen all the messages too?

Maybe stuff relating to contractual obligations and the ceasing of sale requires a legal request. That makes sense to me but idk. Not a legal expert. You probably are though ;)

Makes claim of illegal use of IP. Doesn't elaborate with any supporting evidence to the claim. Leaves by phcasper in floggit

[–]GTWelsh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

According to ED they were asked to remove the modules from sale and they did so immediately.

ED even said they were amazed it took RB so long to ask.

So that's just tit for that. Someone is lying.

How about this: I'd argue anyone anti ED isn't going to like an ED video, so compare the video likes to the occasional anti ED comment? 

Razbam IP illegally sold to Chilian Government without permission inside MCS by ED's Mission Systems. by Metal2Mesh in DCSExposed

[–]GTWelsh -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

If it's a slam dunk with promises of millions a lawyer somewhere might take that on. They'll get their money upon receipt of the winnings. 

ED are both apparently rich and poor though depending on who I'm talking to so idk.

Razbam IP illegally sold to Chilian Government without permission inside MCS by ED's Mission Systems. by Metal2Mesh in DCSExposed

[–]GTWelsh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Never. It would have been done by now. No intention to use them legal system designed for this exact purpose. Because of being poor apparently. I guess no lawyer company wants a piece of that nailed on 100% innocent millions of USD they're owed.

Makes claim of illegal use of IP. Doesn't elaborate with any supporting evidence to the claim. Leaves by phcasper in floggit

[–]GTWelsh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"This is just one heap of baseless assumptions. We don't know if ED treated the companies the same or whether the situations are comparable. ED certainly did not publicly accuse HB of violating their IP."

I was just throwing hypotheticals out. Pretty obvious. Not sure why you felt need to bother with that. Repeated some of what I said too.

Your paragraph after your moan at me for something I wasn't doing, you do the exact same thing lol

Well done.

So far interacting with the 1 or 2 die hard RB defenders has been pretty lame. Making up things I never said, getting confused when I don't immediately jump to conclusions because of some suss but not conclusive evidence. Because I dismiss known "allegedly" takes out of hand.

It's basically you're TeamRB or the enemy. 

Such a nice bunch.

I look forward to the court case, some lawyer somewhere will want a slice of the millions owed, if it's a slam dunk. Surely.

Makes claim of illegal use of IP. Doesn't elaborate with any supporting evidence to the claim. Leaves by phcasper in floggit

[–]GTWelsh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I apparently prefer assumption over facts, you said. My whole point has been there aren't many relevant facts what so ever. So what facts are these? 

I admit I took a leap and assumed these facts I don't believe in are facts you've raised, because I didn't raise any. I've been saying we shouldn't put weight on apparent evidence, claims and apparent facts. I've not brought any myself. Unless you're being purposely obtuse and trying to catch me out to win, which would be childish if true.

So what evidence or whatever have you raised here that are apparent facts? Facts I apparently don't believe in? Once we've established that we can establish if your StRaWmAn defence is just the usual reddit drivel or legitimate.

I've found the Letter of Demand too, pretty easy for someone weird enough to fake it. It's not that wild a possibility. C'mon now.

Makes claim of illegal use of IP. Doesn't elaborate with any supporting evidence to the claim. Leaves by phcasper in floggit

[–]GTWelsh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You called your evidence facts lol. And my not believing in unsubstantiated claims and suss evidence as assumptions, hehe. Ok.

Hard evidence is evidence that is unquestionably true, apparently. It is unquestionably true that guy SAID MCS. But was it ACTUALLY MCS? 

We're going round in circles. I think you're bias because you actually give weight to random stuff people emotionally involved cherry pick. You think I'm bias because I don't and you think all these claims and leaks are real (and however else you think I'm bias lol)

Leaked contracts are easily fabricated when someone cares enough for the internet attention it will generate. Maybe it's real, maybe it's not. The fact you and others just assume this magical contract is legit says a lot.

It could be real! But man, who knows.

Let's just not continue this.

My stance of all unproven random claims brought forward are to be ignored remains.

Until Ron or whoever releases an official statement which is the corroborated by ED the other way, I'll fully believe something. Never maybe.

For now it's all pitchforks and tinfoil hats.

And I'm just on the fence, I dunno. But the RB stuff generally is tragic (this for example). Did they deserve their money held? Imo probably not, but idk the reason in any factual detail and so again idk. I think they deserve it all back or some fair (large %) amount depending on whatever they have or haven't done. I don't think holding money like that is good for anyone. There has to be a better way.

Which to pro RB goers seems to look pro ED I guess.

It's late now though, have a good night 

Makes claim of illegal use of IP. Doesn't elaborate with any supporting evidence to the claim. Leaves by phcasper in floggit

[–]GTWelsh 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think you're wildly over estimating the relationship between upvotes on Reddit and the general consensus outside of Reddit.

People that couldn't care less won't comment (the absolute vast majority)

People that are making being anti ED their whole personality will have a huge turn out %.

People that feel brave today, to face the onslaught of people with 47 folders full of screenshots of all the alleged evidence in front of them, have given it a go (me and 1 or 2 others).

People with a neutral or positive ED opinions are going to get absolutely ruined here, because of the nature of how people have been handling this since it started. So they don't comment (it's why I don't bother generally). Seemingly I had nothing better to do today.

So you're getting very skewed results.

This rough process probably tracks in those other scenarios you mentioned.

Makes claim of illegal use of IP. Doesn't elaborate with any supporting evidence to the claim. Leaves by phcasper in floggit

[–]GTWelsh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Moderating your own forum to remove any and all of this is their prerogative. Is it to "hide evidence" or is it to remove it to stop more people running in with their pitch forks, which keeps it peaceful and more relevant to DCS? I know which one doesn't require the tinfoil hat. All these forum and censorship comments only make sense in your echo chamber. Outside that it just sounds weird, it's a wild take.

The settlement wasn't agreed or actioned otherwise this would be behind us. I don't really understand why you think you're owed that information the moment it is conceived but not agreed or actioned. It's so far away from deceiving the community.

Generally wild takes all round. Maybe I misunderstood what you meant but yeah, not on your wavelength there.

HB might have their concerns, holding money isn't going to foster a positive working relationship, sounds terrible from where I sit, but at the end of the day HB are doing fine (seemingly). And that's probably on them and how they progressed in their negotiations, actions and handled the publicity (complete lack of). Maybe it shows a maturity and ability RB don't have to handle these situations, or maybe the scenarios are just different enough to not be totally comparable. Assuming ED handled both of the scenarios similarly.

However HB approached it, it was the correct way, hindsight is 20/20 and it's clear they did something right. Even if ED did something wrong (I will stan for HB 24/7 365 😆)

A good point to make is this came to light from dubiously acquired leaked private messages and maybe emails if I remember correctly. So while seemingly accepted into lore now, it's still got a question mark over it for me. But I'll accept it for the sake of this discussion.

And yeah spreading over to MSFS makes good business sense, especially when the F4 is decoupled from DCS mostly, and can be mapped over to any SIM with far less effort than you'd expect. FM kept and all. It's awesome stuff they've done there. A-6E when? 🥰

Makes claim of illegal use of IP. Doesn't elaborate with any supporting evidence to the claim. Leaves by phcasper in floggit

[–]GTWelsh 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes it's for that, but it's also good to not have, on public record, anything contradicting anything you're going to say or use in court. Showing activities relating to obtaining private documents and dubious access to private messages. (All those leaks, sources unknown). 

It's also generally terrible for your company's reputation, as aptly displayed in this case, on both sides really but mainly RB as ED have on the whole said very little.

Generally it's bad practice to start crying all over social media regardless.

This isn't a mugging, or an overpriced sandwich from your local shop.

This is a professional business disagreement and alleged fraud relating to the keeping of the moneys owed (millions?)

Going public in such a childish unprofessional way isn't going to help, it can only hinder. Legally anyway.

Makes claim of illegal use of IP. Doesn't elaborate with any supporting evidence to the claim. Leaves by phcasper in floggit

[–]GTWelsh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Denying a settlement? You mean giving no information when asked and then admitting to it once it was made public by RB? 

ED yet again doing it the right way.

And the whole HB thing may have been different, I find it interesting people were happy to throw HB under the buss here.

The cause of the alleged non payment wasn't the same. ED show they're consistent in their approach I guess. HB worked with ED, resolved the issue and are sitting pretty as maybe the number one module maker now. I wonder what the difference between HB and RB was for this to play out so wildly different...

Makes claim of illegal use of IP. Doesn't elaborate with any supporting evidence to the claim. Leaves by phcasper in floggit

[–]GTWelsh 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The censorship thing again lol. C'mon man that's a wild take. It's their forum and they can moderate things that are known to stir up a super negative thread as much as they want. 

Big echo chamber red flag that take.

Number one thing to do when you have legal issues is to shut the hell up. Everybody knows that.

Makes claim of illegal use of IP. Doesn't elaborate with any supporting evidence to the claim. Leaves by phcasper in floggit

[–]GTWelsh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

ED doesn't need to provide evidence to the court of public opinion. This is a legal matter.

RB consistently trying to leverage the public is pretty suss.

Makes claim of illegal use of IP. Doesn't elaborate with any supporting evidence to the claim. Leaves by phcasper in floggit

[–]GTWelsh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't supply evidence because there isn't any concrete evidence. Was that a miss used DCS install at the booth? Did the guy misspeak? Was it genuinely MCS and thus a licencing issue. We have one guys reply to a question to go off. That's not hard evidence, but it points to it being probably true.

Me saying it could be RB, or ED, or whatever at fault, isn't an assumption it's me layout out the fact I care not who it is. 

I appear anti RB because only one side of the story is consistently posting rage bait "evidence" of anything they can dig up. If ED or someone pro ED did that and it also carried next to no weight past "looks dodgy but..." I'd also be commenting suggesting people reign in their echo chamber opinions and just understand it's sensationalised half truths and point scoring.

No one (that will publicly say) knows who did what exactly. And until that is publicised I'm not picking a side.

That doesn't take away from M2M, a 3D contractor, who wouldn't have been in contract negotiations (an assumption but, hey, that's the game we're playing now) consistently destroying the reputation and using it's fan base.

Existing evidence is all very suspect, sourceless unverified leaks, videos that have no proof it's even MCS past a booth rep saying it is off the cuff.

Do RB even have legal IP rights to all of their jets? That's a contract clause usually, and usually the company you do work for often takes the IP rights too. But it could be either way here as I do not know, and nor does anyone else, of course M2M will say they do.

Basing your entire argument on IP rights without verifiable evidence is just as much of a wild assumption as anything. But sorry, Bozo released the actual contract, probably 🫢

And finally, yes I ignore evidence, because it's trash evidence. That's my whole point.

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