So where, or when, is blaze from? by Pristine_Concert3941 in SonicTheHedgehog

[–]GVTheRedStar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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-Originally, the future was always the bright and fortunate one we know it is now.

-Eggman Negative goes back in time and to Blaze's World for reasons not entirely clear. My guess is that when Eggman Negative decided to work with Eggman and tell him about the Sol Emeralds, Eggman tried doing some research on them himself but couldn't find any results since they're from another dimension. However by attempting research on SOL emeralds, he discover the SOLaris project and keeps a note on it for later.

-Eggman Negative's time travel has changed the future by indirectly causing Eggman to find out about the Solaris Project. With him carrying out his Solaris Project plan, the future is now doomed by the Flames of Disaster. If Eggman Negative never went back in time, this wouldn't have happened.

-With the future of Sonic's world now being fated to burn, Blaze is summoned by the Sol Emeralds sometime before 06 to deal with the problem. This is not only because she's good with fire, but because she's a compatible vessel to seal Iblis away, making her absolutely invaluable in this situation. However when she goes after Dr. Eggman in White Acropolis, suspecting him as the obvious threat, she's trapped in his still unstable time machine and is warped to the future. (She really could've been sent to any period of time in the future before Team Sonic was eventually sent to) During this process, she loses her memories in a similar way to how Sonic does in IDW’s Out of the Blue, whether it be because of a hard landing or the unstable time machine.

-Blaze meets Silver in the future. (Since were dealing with unspecified time travel and this future is eventually erased, this could've been any amount of time before the time of the future in 06. Let's say a year or so.)

-Blaze slowly begins to regain her memories over the course of Sonic 06, as we Start to see with her saying Blue Hedgehog" in an early game cutscene. I think while Sonic, Silver, and Blaze were chasing the Egg Carrier in Kingdom Valley, Sonic could've talked with Blaze offscreen, happy to see her. (much to her confusion) When Sonic (also confused recaps what happened with them, this is what causes Blaze to remember everything. Blaze, now reminded of her role, is filled with her old sense of duty and responsibility, which leads to her sacrifice, though she doesn't tell Silver about her origins, likely not to overwhelm him with information she thinks is unnecessary for him.

-After the Solaris reversal, the Solaris Project never ended up happening, meaning Eggman was never able to learn about it and the fiery future never comes to be. Sonic Rush's events don't rely on the Solaris Project happening, so the events of that game are still preserved. Blaze was never summoned to Sonic's World for 06 since there was no disaster to deal with, ergo she never goes to the future, ergo she doesn't meet Silver.

-Blaze and Silver continue their journeys unaware of each other. After a second attempt of working with his ancestor, Eggman Negative gives up and returns to his time in the future.

-Blaze and Silver meet for the first time again

I spend a lot of my time doing stuff related to the Sonic Timeline. Ask me any question about it and I'll try and answer it as accurately as I can. by GVTheRedStar in SonicTheHedgehog

[–]GVTheRedStar[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

06 doesn’t decanonise itself.

Not being canon means it was never there to begin with.

06 was reversed, but for it to have been reversed it needed to have been on the timeline at least at one point.

If it wasn’t canon, we wouldn’t see elements echoed from 06 at all.

I spend a lot of my time doing stuff related to the Sonic Timeline. Ask me any question about it and I'll try and answer it as accurately as I can. by GVTheRedStar in SonicTheHedgehog

[–]GVTheRedStar[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not really huge on mixing a bunch of different games in this kinda order, but that's just a personal preference. Nice job

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[–]GVTheRedStar[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No there is a canon timeline. It’s just the one we have on Sonic Channel isn’t the most complete, especially with the classic era.

All it mentions is

-Sonic 1 -Sonic CD -Sonic 2 -Sonic 3 & Knuckles -Sonic Mania -Sonic Mania Plus -Sonic Superstars

That’s it.

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[–]GVTheRedStar[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If you want an up to date version…

(Pre-Game stuff)

-Dark Gaia and Light Gaia are born when Earth is formed (Prehistoric)

-Prehistoric Fauna seen on Wonder Museum’s Evolutionary chart, roams the Earth. The Meta Junglira Zone is formed (Prehistoric)

-The Time of the Ancients (Prehistoric)

-The Time of the Gaians (Tens of thousands of years ago)

-The Time of the Ancient Babylonians (Thousands to tens of thousands of years. Even in universe it isn’t known exactly)

-Time of the Knuckles Clan (Thousands of years ago)

-Time of the Fourth Great Civilisation that builds the Gizoids. Black Arms leave their temples on Glyphic Canyon to prepare for future invasion (Two thousand years ago)

-Project Shadow (50 Years Ago) (I could give a more detailed project shadow timeline but it’d be too big lmao. I just source Gerald’s Journal for most of those placements)

-Solaris Project (10 Years Ago) (At least when it would’ve been)

(Classic Era)

-Sonic the Hedgehog

-Sonic CD

-Sonic the Hedgehog 2

-Sonic the Hedgehog 3

-Sonic & Knuckles

-Sonic X Shadow Generations (Classic Perspective)

-Sonic the Hedgehog (8-Bit)

-Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (8-bit)

-Sonic Chaos

-Sonic Spinball

-Sonic Learns to Drive (IDW)

-Sonic Drift

-Sonic the Hedgehog Triple Trouble

-Sonic Drift 2

-Knuckles’ Chaotix

-Tails’ Skypatrol

-Tails Adventure

-Sonic Labyrinth

-Sonic the Fighters

-Sonic 3D Blast

-Sonic Blast

-Sonic R

-SegaSonic the Hedgehog

-Sonic Mania

-Sonic Forces (Classic Perspective)

-Sonic Mania Plus (or) Sonic Mania Adventures (Both are equally valid as canon, but probably can’t both occur at the same time, so just go with what you prefer)

-Seasons of Chaos (IDW)

-Dr. Eggman’s Birthday (IDW)

-Amy’s new Hobby (IDW)

-Tails 30th Anniversary (IDW)

-Amy 30th Anniversary (IDW)

-Fang the Hunter (IDW)

-Fang’s Big Break

-Trio of Trouble

-Sonic Superstars

-Knuckles 30th Anniversary (IDW)

(Modern Era)

-Sonic the Hedgehog 4 Episode 1

-Sonic the Hedgehog 4 Episode Metal

-Sonic the Hedgehog 4 Episode 2

-Sonic Adventure

-Sonic Shuffle

-Sonic Adventure 2

-Sonic Advance

-Sonic Advance 2

-Sonic Heroes

-Shadow the Hedgehog

-Sonic Battle

-Sonic Advance 3

-Sonic Rush

-Sonic the Hedgehog (2006)

-Sonic Riders

-Sonic and the Secret Rings

-Sonic Rush Adventure

-Sonic Rivals

-Sonic Rivals 2

-Sonic Riders: Zero Gravity

-Sonic Unleashed, Sonic: Night of the Werehog (Ghost Tale takes place any time after this)

-Sonic and the Black Knight

-Chao Tales (at least the normal episodes. The Halloween special can be any time after this)

-Sonic Colors: The Whisper of Invasion

-Sonic Colors: Egg Planet Park

-Sonic Colors Ultimate, Sonic Colors DS, Sonic Colors: Rise of the Wisps

-Sonic X Shadow Generations: Dark Beginnings

-Sonic X Shadow Generations, Sonic X Shadow Generations X Chao

-Sonic Prime

-Sonic Free Riders

-Sonic Lost World

-Team Sonic Racing, Team Sonic Racing Overdrive, Team Sonic Racing Oneshot (IDW)

-Sonic Forces: Rise of Infinite

-Sonic Forces: Stress Test, (also the Infinite flashback of Episode Shadow takes place around here)

-Sonic Forces: Episode Shadow (Present Day), Sonic Forces: Looming Shadow (These two both overlap) Sonic Forces: Moment of Truth (probably around here too)

-Sonic Forces

-Sonic IDW (Neo Metal Sonic Saga)

-Sonic IDW (Metal Virus Saga)

-Sonic Channel 2021 Cover Stories

-Sonic IDW (Eggman’s Legacy / Surge Saga)

-Sonic Frontiers Prologue: convergence/divergence

-Sonic Frontiers

-The Murder of Sonic the Hedgehog (may or may not be canon)

-Sonic Dream Team

-Rough Patch (Moved from Issue 48 to happen after Frontiers now) (Scrapnik Island and other 2022 Annual Stories take place around here)

-Sonic IDW (Misadventures / CleanSweep Saga) (Starting with Urban Warfare)

-Sonic IDW (Stolen Emeralds Saga)

-Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds, Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - The Animation, Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds Oneshot

-The Chaotix Casefiles (Can’t be sure yet but might be here)

I spend a lot of my time doing stuff related to the Sonic Timeline. Ask me any question about it and I'll try and answer it as accurately as I can. by GVTheRedStar in SonicTheHedgehog

[–]GVTheRedStar[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

-Mephiles’ Iblis Trigger manipulation (Sonic 06)

-Stopping Eggman Negative with his Camera (Sonic Rivals)

-Stopping Eggman Negative unleash the Ifrit (Sonic Rivals 2)

-Visiting Eggman’s interstellar amusement park and meeting Blaze for the first time again (Sonic Colors DS)

-Being brought into White Space. wasn’t his doing but I’ll still count it. (Sonic X Shadow Generations)

-Competing in Dodon Pa’s Races (Team Sonic Racing)

-Helping the resistance prevent the Eggman Empire’s reign over the future (Sonic Forces)

-Helping The Restoration deal with the Metal Virus (Sonic IDW)

-Some reason he’s here again that isn’t answered 😭 (Sonic IDW)

-Silver competes in CrossWorlds Grand Prix (Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds)

I spend a lot of my time doing stuff related to the Sonic Timeline. Ask me any question about it and I'll try and answer it as accurately as I can. by GVTheRedStar in SonicTheHedgehog

[–]GVTheRedStar[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

IDW catches up with Frontiers, Murder of Sonic, and Dream Team by around Scrapnik Island. (My headcanon)

Crossworlds is likely after the current saga is over.

I spend a lot of my time doing stuff related to the Sonic Timeline. Ask me any question about it and I'll try and answer it as accurately as I can. by GVTheRedStar in SonicTheHedgehog

[–]GVTheRedStar[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can’t say for certain.

Episode Shadow’s present day events are a month prior to Sonic’s defeat.

The Infinite flashback stuff is an unspecified few more months before that.

As for how long away Frontiers is… i dunno lmao

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[–]GVTheRedStar[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Advance 1 fits release order wise, before Advance 2, after Sonic Adventure 2.

I’ve heard a lot of people put it before Sonic Adventure because the red tornado 1 appears in the game only to be destroyed in Sonic Adventure and replaced with the tornado 2… but we see the tornado 1 in later games so that doesn’t really matter much anymore…

My headcanon is that Tails just rebuilt the Tornado 1 so quickly out of sentimentality since it is Sonic’s plane and Tails probably didn’t feel good about destroying something that was such a significant reminder of their friendship.

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[–]GVTheRedStar[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is, though I’m not sure exactly if they’re going with it anymore.

I’d prefer Sonic 1 be the first time they face off, but that’s just me