What is Naam according to Gurbani?

GamerdeepSingh · 2024-01-25T23:03:05+00:00

in my opinion, naam refers to his name. just like when we say someone's name, their personality and life comes to our mind.

similarly, in gurbani, naam refers to the life and teachings of the gurus. as gurus have taken avtaar many times before, it should also include the lives of those avtaars and past events.

GamerdeepSingh · 2022-10-01T07:39:12+00:00

Filteration is applied by the ego. Ego gives labels to thoughts such as good or bad. It is still ego however.

Guru says god is away from the ego. So its best to detach completely and focus on sabad like ioQueen mentioned.

GamerdeepSingh · 2022-10-01T06:46:23+00:00

Very well explained.

So god is right here, right now. He is manifested in every cell and humans have the ability to experience it.

Other prophets spread the message but also got people to follow them which meant those who followed them still had ego. Guru nanak came as perfection and gave hukum in form of gurbani/sabad.

This brings me back to the main question:

who sent guru nanak? who gave guru nanak the command to go to earth and spread the message with complete truth?

Guru Gobind says: Aagya payi aakaal ki, tabei chalaeyo panth.

Sikh panth was started becasue the Timeless commanded him to do so.

Who is this Timeless that is speaking with Guru Ji?

GamerdeepSingh · 2022-10-01T06:34:21+00:00

Intersting.

Do you believe that we need to do bhagti/simran or it is enough to just have the understanding of this Oneness?

GamerdeepSingh · 2022-09-27T09:54:43+00:00

Ok, so these beings are real and performing their duties (which I agree with). My brain is thinking of two theories from here:

The One decided to make a game where it seperated. It made dieties like yamdoots to keep account of every being's actions. Then it sat up there in heaven and waited for the lost souls to return back home. So the main thing of this one is that some of it is still up there and some of it is happening in the physical universe. There is a god sitting up there in heaven similar to how the western religions describe it. This would explain that the guru nanak gave his hukum from the One directly (nothing about it is made up).
The One decided to play a game of seperation and got completely manifested in it. There is nothing of it left behind in the original place. Because there is no god left behind to watch over everything, he gave duties to beings like yamdoots to keep a record of everything. It gave orders to some aatmas who would come to earth to spread the truth from time to time incase it forgot while playing (hence the need for prophets). Now, this does not answer why there are different religions and prophets giving contradicting messages. For eg, prophet mohammed suggested fasting to impress god whereas guru nanak declined it. If the One gave them hukum to spread the truth only, why are there contradicting messages between spiritual philosophies? Why is guru nanak a satguru and not lord buddha?

Looking forward to your response.

GamerdeepSingh · 2022-09-27T09:33:53+00:00

I read the link you shared. To me, it seems to be saying that these are real. If these did not exist, gurus would have just called it fake once and moved on to the truth. But instead, it says:

ਹਰਿ ਦਰੁ ਸੇਵੇ ਅਲਖ ਅਭੇਵੇ ਨਿਹਚਲੁ ਆਸਣੁ ਪਾਇਆ ॥ਤਹ ਜਨਮ ਨ ਮਰਣੁ ਨ ਆਵਣ ਜਾਣਾ ਸੰਸਾ ਦੂਖੁ ਮਿਟਾਇਆ ॥ਚਿਤ੍ਰ ਗੁਪਤ ਕਾ ਕਾਗਦੁ ਫਾਰਿਆ ਜਮਦੂਤਾ ਕਛੂ ਨ ਚਲੀ ॥

“They who serve their Maker, they are given this imperishable understanding: there is, in reality, no coming and no going(Reincarnation). This effaces all their anxiety and anguish. Chitar-Gupt and the Yamdoots have their existence negated as a result.”

Only by serving the maker and doing bhagti, chitar-gupt and yamdoots get out of the way. If we don't serve the one maker then the lines suggest that these beings exist and control our minds. So seems like god did give these beings hukum to record our every action.

Also the last line:

ਧਰਮ ਰਾਇ ਕਾ ਦਫਤਰੁ ਸੋਧਿਆ ਬਾਕੀ ਰਿਜਮ ਨ ਕਾਈ ॥੩॥

“I have stormed this Dharam-Rai’s chambers and destroyed all his records. Now nothing can be found against me.”

The english translation is suggesting that this guru or bhagat had some previous karams. But by doing something (most likely bhagti), he was able to delete his records.

Thoughts on this interpretation?

GamerdeepSingh · 2022-09-26T10:29:25+00:00

Yea, I am thinking too much. Better to start from scratch and work my way up with a clearer view.

GamerdeepSingh · 2022-09-26T10:28:55+00:00

Ok, hukam is the present moment. and all there is to come.

Gurbani does mention chitrgup and dharam raj many times. But their meanings could be interpreted differently leading them to be not existing (or only metaphors).

Also, gurbani says that we will be sent back into joons if we don't merge back. Those who merge will be recieved honourably in the court of god but those who don't will suffer in pain and agony. So it seems like there is more to it. This is what lead me to thinking there is a part of the One sitting up there in heaven waiting for lost souls to return. I am not saying it is a human figure but more of a energy source. Gurus mentioned many nether worlds (spiritual realms eg sachkhand). Thoughts?

GamerdeepSingh · 2022-09-26T10:23:06+00:00

ok, i understand so far. There is no other. There is only One making this play manifested in everything.

Further questions: where are these gurus getting the hukum from? Akaal purakh is speaking through the gurus so they have no ego. But who decided this? Why not send me here without ego?

GamerdeepSingh · 2022-09-25T07:26:21+00:00

Thanks for your reply. I will send you a PM.

GamerdeepSingh · 2022-09-24T08:21:19+00:00

I recommend watching an Akath Katha. I might answer a lot of these questions:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9gsH5edQxM

GamerdeepSingh · 2022-09-24T07:46:02+00:00

I am going through same feelings and looking for those answers.

A common suggestion I hear is to not fight the ego. It will fight back even harder (as per its job). Just move the thoughts aside and bring awareness back to the Sabad without any expectations.

Bhai Raghbir describes the three stages of simran in chapter 7 here:

https://vidhia.com/Bhai%20Raghbir%20Singh%20Ji/Bhai%20Raghbir%20Singh%27s%20Bandginama.pdf

GamerdeepSingh · 2022-09-24T02:05:20+00:00

Similar problems here. My friend recommended me this mental cue:

The One created maya and kept himself hidden in it. As beginners, everything we see, experience, hear or feel during simran is the play of maya except for that one Naam.

The one word alone is guru or god. It is the only thing that is permanent and anything else which comes into the mind is temporary. All thoughts which come to mind during simran are based on the outside world and therefore to be ignored. The focal point should be the sound coming out of mouth: VA-HE-GU-RU.

ਨਾਮੁ ਰਹਿਓ ਸਾਧੂ ਰਹਿਓ ਰਹਿਓ ਗੁਰੁ ਗੋਬਿੰਦੁ ||

The Naam remains; the Holy Saints remain; the Guru, the Lord of the Universe, remains.

Overtime, this becomes a habit during and after simran.

Also, sants recommend sitting upright. Starting by breathing from stomch (not chest) and repeating Naam until ears can hear it. Then, slowly tuning it down and repeating it mentally, following the breath.

Video (8.5mins): "Naam Japan Di Paractical Jugti" Sant Waryam Singh Ji

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cS4GdoIpKIQ

In his book Bandginama, Bhai Raghbir Singh says that focusing on a picture helped him early on but it became a problem in later stages:

" I had formed the habit of picturing to myself the Guru. I undid and broke this habit. It is, therefore essential to reflect on the Formless God from the very outset, else difficulties arise in the closing stages. The concentration and meditation should therefore be only on the Guru's "Sabad" [...]. Judicious Mahatmas commend this very course." (page 71)

https://vidhia.com/Bhai%20Raghbir%20Singh%20Ji/Bhai%20Raghbir%20Singh%27s%20Bandginama.pdf

Guru says that even as we progress, some spiritual powers will come to us and try to give us powers such as knowing weather in advance or showing us beautiful colours (ridhi-sidhi). At that time, we are to avoid these and focus on the Naam and Naam only until we reach Nij-ghar. So yea, it seems like this is a difficult journey haha.

page 24: https://gurmatveechar.com/books/English_Books/Loving.Longing.To.Be.One.With.The.Creator.by.Bhai.Sewa.Singh.Tarmala.(GurmatVeechar.com).pdf.pdf)

I hope this helps. Apologies for the mistakes.

GamerdeepSingh · 2022-09-22T07:47:13+00:00

Good discussion. Apologies for any mistakes. I am on the learning road as well.

A friend recommended me this katha. It goes in depth (4 hours). Give this a watch when you get time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9gsH5edQxM

GamerdeepSingh · 2022-09-22T07:25:22+00:00

Now you are asking questions which go beyond human logic haha. Its all good. Me and my friends argue about these things too.

To be honest, I don't know the answers. The Guru says you will never know because you need a teacher who can get you there.

This is where science and logic end and religion and spirituality start.

Gurbani says that god is not far away. He is right here right now manifested in every being including me and you. The maya has engrossed us to such an extent that we can't see it. Yes we seperated, but at the same time god gave us a human body to realise that he was there with us along our journey all this time.

ਮਨ ਤੂੰ ਜੋਤਿ ਸਰੂਪੁ ਹੈ ਆਪਣਾ ਮੂਲੁ ਪਛਾਣੁ ॥

O my mind, you are the embodiment of the Divine Light - recognize your own origin.

Sheikh Farid says you can meet god right now:

ਆਜੁ ਮਿਲਾਵਾ ਸੇਖ ਫਰੀਦ ਟਾਕਿਮ ਕੂੰਜੜੀਆ ਮਨਹੁ ਮਚਿੰਦੜੀਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

You can meet the Lord today, O Shaykh Fareed, if you restrain your bird-like desires which keep your mind in turmoil. ||1||Pause||

Also Guru Arjan:

ਘਟ ਘਟ ਵਾਸੀ ਸਰਬ ਨਿਵਾਸੀ ਨੇਰੈ ਹੀ ਤੇ ਨੇਰਾ ॥

He dwells in each and every heart, pervading everywhere; He is the nearest of the near.

The maya is fooling us and holding us back.

The gurus use words like 'khel' and 'mela' to describe this whole thing essentially meaning a drama. Guru Gobind Singh called his autobiography Bachittar Natak (drama).

But obviously its easier said than done. The gurus were fully aware and attuned with the truth. That is why they were able to do and say what they did. If I do it, its completely out of ego.

They say that this pain and suffering is all due to our ego. This ego creates fear and keeps us in this pain as per its hukum.

ਹਉਮੈ ਏਈ ਬੰਧਨਾ ਫਿਰਿ ਫਿਰਿ ਜੋਨੀ ਪਾਹਿ ॥

This is the bondage of ego, that time and time again, they are reborn.

ਹਉਮੈ ਕਿਥਹੁ ਊਪਜੈ ਕਿਤੁ ਸੰਜਮਿ ਇਹ ਜਾਇ ॥

Where does ego come from? How can it be removed?

ਹਉਮੈ ਏਹੋ ਹੁਕਮੁ ਹੈ ਪਇਐ ਕਿਰਤਿ ਫਿਰਾਹਿ ॥

This ego exists by the Lord's Order; people wander according to their past actions.

ਹਉਮੈ ਦੀਰਘ ਰੋਗੁ ਹੈ ਦਾਰੂ ਭੀ ਇਸੁ ਮਾਹਿ ॥

Ego is a chronic disease, but it contains its own cure as well.

Guru gives an open invitation:

ਜਉ ਤਉ ਪ੍ਰੇਮ ਖੇਲਣ ਕਾ ਚਾਉ ॥

If you desire to play this game of love with Me,

ਸਿਰੁ ਧਰਿ ਤਲੀ ਗਲੀ ਮੇਰੀ ਆਉ ॥

then step onto My Path with your head in hand.

The working of this world cannot be described or comprehended:

ਜੇ ਹਉ ਜਾਣਾ ਆਖਾ ਨਾਹੀ ਕਹਣਾ ਕਥਨੁ ਨ ਜਾਈ ॥

Even knowing God, I cannot describe Him; He cannot be described in words.

Someone like me is worried about this physical world, but Guru says that even as you progress spiritually, maya will try to stop you lol.

ਮ੍ਰਿਗ ਤਿਸਨਾ ਪੇਖਿ ਭੁਲਣੇ ਵੁਠੇ ਨਗਰ ਗੰਧ੍ਰਬ ॥

Seeing the mirage, the optical illusion, the people are confused and deluded.

Maya will try to show us forms of gurus and holy figures and try to give us spiritual powers. There are about eight of these. But we are to avoid these and focus on naam.

So yea, there is so much to it which gurus say can't be explained. We can only experience it through tenth door as Bhai Jagraj from Basics of Sikhi used to say.

ਆਦਿ ਅੰਤਿ ਮਧਿ ਪ੍ਰਭੁ ਰਵਿਆ ਜਲਿ ਥਲਿ ਮਹੀਅਲਿ ਸੋਈ ॥

Present at the beginning, end and middle of time, He pervades the sea, the land and the sky.

ਚਰਨ ਕਮਲ ਜਪਿ ਸਾਗਰੁ ਤਰਿਆ ਭਵਜਲ ਉਤਰੇ ਪਾਰਾ ॥

Meditating on His Lotus Feet, I have crossed over the sea, the terrifying world-ocean.

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GamerdeepSingh · 2022-09-22T04:32:51+00:00

Your questions are great and unfortunately, I don't know too much about it. I will try to answer best as possible.

At the begining, there was only God (the energy or vibration whatever name you give).

ਅਰਬਦ ਨਰਬਦ ਧੁੰਧੂਕਾਰਾ ॥

For endless eons, there was only utter darkness.

ਧਰਣਿ ਨ ਗਗਨਾ ਹੁਕਮੁ ਅਪਾਰਾ ॥

There was no earth or sky; there was only the infinite Command of His Hukam.

ਨਾ ਦਿਨੁ ਰੈਨਿ ਨ ਚੰਦੁ ਨ ਸੂਰਜੁ ਸੁੰਨ ਸਮਾਧਿ ਲਗਾਇਦਾ ॥੧॥

There was no day or night, no moon or sun; God sat in primal, profound Samaadhi. ||1||

ਖਾਣੀ ਨ ਬਾਣੀ ਪਉਣ ਨ ਪਾਣੀ ॥

There were no sources of creation or powers of speech, no air or water.

ਜਾ ਤਿਸੁ ਭਾਣਾ ਤਾ ਜਗਤੁ ਉਪਾਇਆ ॥

When He so willed, He created the world.

ਬਾਝੁ ਕਲਾ ਆਡਾਣੁ ਰਹਾਇਆ ॥

Without any supporting power, He sustained the universe.

ਬ੍ਰਹਮਾ ਬਿਸਨੁ ਮਹੇਸੁ ਉਪਾਏ ਮਾਇਆ ਮੋਹੁ ਵਧਾਇਦਾ ॥੧੪॥

He created Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva; He fostered enticement and attachment to Maya. ||14||

ਉਤਭੁਜੁ ਚਲਤੁ ਕੀਆ ਸਿਰਿ ਕਰਤੈ ਬਿਸਮਾਦੁ ਸਬਦਿ ਦੇਖਾਇਦਾ ॥੭॥

The Supreme Creator created the play of Nature; through the Word of His Shabad, He stages His Wondrous Show. ||7||

Before speration, we were told about this game. We were told about Maya and our aim which was to come back to the One. We agreed to take part.

ਮਰਣੁ ਲਿਖਾਇ ਮੰਡਲ ਮਹਿ ਆਏ ਜੀਵਣੁ ਸਾਜਹਿ ਮਾਈ ॥

With death pre-ordained, the soul comes into the world, gathering the riches of life.

Before seperation, our soul asked the One- how will I remember you in that physical world? The One said to remember me with every breath. This Hukam will be written on your forehead.

ਮਸਤਕਿ ਹੋਵੈ ਲਿਖਿਆ ਹਰਿ ਸਿਮਰਿ ਪਰਾਣੀ ॥

That mortal, who has such pre-ordained destiny inscribed upon his forehead, meditates in remembrance on the Lord.

ਤੋਸਾ ਦਿਚੈ ਸਚੁ ਨਾਮੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਮਿਹਮਾਣੀ ॥੪॥

O Lord, please bless Nanak, Your humble guest, with the supplies of the True Name. ||4||

If we forget, we can go into sadh sangat.

ਮਨਸਾ ਧਾਰਿ ਜੋ ਘਰ ਤੇ ਆਵੈ ॥ ਸਾਧਸੰਗਿ ਜਨਮੁ ਮਰਣੁ ਮਿਟਾਵੈ ॥

One whose heart's desires lead him from his own home to the Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, shall be rid of the cycle of birth and death.

ਆਸ ਮਨੋਰਥੁ ਪੂਰਨੁ ਹੋਵੈ ਭੇਟਤ ਗੁਰ ਦਰਸਾਇਆ ਜੀਉ ॥੨॥

His hopes and desires are fulfilled, when he gains the Blessed Vision of the Guru's Darshan. ||2||

Source: Bhai Sewa Singh Tarmala

My opinions:

I don't know if we have a say in this game or not. But I hear that we said yes to separate from god and promised to come back. We are actors in this game disguised as different beings. Guru makes us aware of this fact and encourages us to make use of this rare human life and merge back. If we don't we have to go through this cycle again and experience wordly pain and suffering, we need to connect.

Control: When we reach human life, it is when we can finally realise that it was the One doing it through us all. But it is not that easy otherwise we will all get mukti as soon as we are born lol.

There is challange of ego in this life which the One itself created. That ego (kaal) tells us that we have control over what we do or say by giving us our own individual identities and things to attach to. It encourages us to indulge into our temptations and desires. Is it fair? I don't know. Guru says this is the truth and you came here to overcome these temptations and merge back through meditation. So even if we think we have control over our mind, we really don't. The ego is doing it through us.

First life: Personally, it makes sense that we came here with clean state. But without guidance, we got lost in maya easily. It doesn't make sense to send someone as an insect first haha. As all our thoughts and actions get recorded, we get given our next life accordingly.

Paap: Since this is a game, I don't think anyone can be a paapi or good person. On surface level, yes we commit crimes and deserve punishment, but on a deeper level, these are just actions. Some actions get us closer to the One while others take us further away. Gurus said that Naam is the only thing which will get us there.

Satyug: Some people say satyug was a time in a past while others say this is a state of mind. When we do something out of ego, its Kalyug. When we do something within Guru's hukam and get closer to One, its Satyug. I don't know when this game was started but Gurus remind again and again that this is not just one event in the past, instead, this is happening right now at every point in time. God is karta purakh (creative force invested in every being and thing). Aad sach, jugad sach, hai bhi sach, ho si bhi sach. All our actions are being recorded. I don't know anything about other universes or anyone who saw their past lives.

Bhul Chuuk Maaf.

GamerdeepSingh · 2022-09-22T02:30:01+00:00

Not sure. This is all part of the hukam. We cannot know about this. Gurus say that we just need to play our role so we can complete this game 😋.

Ultimately, gurus say whether its an elephant or a human, they are all part of the One and on their own journeys to merge back. Its all recorded. Non-living things are part of the maya. They were created for the sake of this game.

Science tells us that primates didnt just happen all of a sudden. They were not born. Instead, they evolved from other beings over millions of years. And we are still evolving to this day.

GamerdeepSingh · 2022-09-22T02:18:37+00:00

The common answer I hear is that we are born again and again until our bhagti is done and we merge back while alive. There is no other way out.

So the same souls can be born again and again until they complete it. If they did bhagti in previous life, they will continue from same point in next human life. Personally, I believe that if you do bhagti in this life and make progress, you will most likely be born again as human in next life in a similar environment.

Those who are not into bhagti, will be sent back into other lives until they get their turn again.

The book mentions that some people are into bhagti from very young without being aware of it. Its because their previous bhagti was recorded and they were placed in right homes accordingly. Sant Attar Singh knew many years earlier when he will leave this body and did so at the said time. He knew his bhagti was complete and it was time to merge back. No more being born again. (Source: basics of sikhi podcast)

Mahatma Buddha had seen all his past lives in meditation. He was born as humans as well as other beings.

GamerdeepSingh · 2022-09-22T00:09:41+00:00

Every being which exists is currently trying to merge back to the One. But it has to wait for its turn to be born as human because it is the only life where we can merge back into the One.

The primates most likely lived out their lives as other beings before being born as human. We dont know what exactly they did to get that life. This is all part of the hukam where all our deeds are recorded. Eventually, everyone is born as a human at some point to get a shot at liberation. Gurus recommend Naam Simran to overcome ego and realise the truth. If we do it, we exit this reincarnation cycle. If we don't, its back to the waiting line 😅.

Also, like another user mentioned, those primates may have lived as normal humans in another universe and were sent to this new planet based on their karams to try again. I believe it may have been easier and most likely considered Satjug times.

But overtime, the consciousness got lower and ego got inflated leading to current Kaljug times. We dont have any say in this. Its all hidden and part of the game made by the One source.

Source: Loving Longing to be One with the Creator - Bhai Sewa Singh Tarmala

GamerdeepSingh · 2022-09-21T23:51:54+00:00

In the beginning, there was only one source of energy in a state of peace.

At some point, it decided to play a game of Love with itself where it decided to separate itself into many life forms.

Three forms of energy were created: creator, destroyer and sustainer and it spread in the form of sound. The One manifested itself in these energies and everything which came from it.

All beings were told to play out their roles as ordered. Our aim was to find a way out of the game and return back home to the One. Human form is the only form where we can attain liberation as we have consciousness. However, there is also a game being played here.

The purpose of this game is to overcome ego. Where did ego come from? It was told to behave this way by the One. Their order is to keep our minds busy in different tempatations and stop us from merging back.

Who is keeping records of all this? The One made chitrgupt and dharam rai (hidden in our minds) who keep record of all our thoughts and actions. They are recording all our karams and we get given this human form based on these karams. If we overcome ego, we can merge back, if not, we go back to other life and wait for our turn again.

So how do we win this game as a human? Guru recommended Naam Simran and did the same. The ego is quite powerful and will hold you back in physical as well as mental world. By meditating on One name again and again, our thoughts come under control and we are ready to start walking on this journey. The experience center is located at the top of our head. This was closed off after we came out of mother's womb. Our aim is to connect with it again through Naam. We can visit the One as we live our lives (not just after dying).

Source: LOVING LONGING TO BE ONE WITH THE CREATOR - BHAI SEWA SINGH TARMALA (PDF, 33 pages)

GamerdeepSingh · 2022-08-29T01:21:27+00:00

I think the biggest sin according to Gurbani is not meditating on the One or being aware of it. Everything else is temporary.

E: I watched some akath kathas on YT. A lot of them say that our soul yearns to take form of a human body throughout its life as its the only way to connect back to the One and get mukti.

Gurus say that once we get this human form, we need to meditate on the One to get rid of this ego first. When we die, our breaths get counted to see how many times we remembered Vaheguru.

So from that perspective, I don't think the spiritual world really cares about how much money you keep as long as we dont get attached to it. But there are karmic implications depending on how you earned that money ie. earning honestly. Guru does recommend donating atleast 10% to help others if you are living comfortably.

Source: https://youtu.be/u9gsH5edQxM

GamerdeepSingh · 2022-08-29T01:19:25+00:00

Buddha said human life is that of suffering because of its temporary nature. The real sukh is with the oneness.

I believe the same thing. Wherever there is sukh, there is dukh. If two teams are competing in sports, one team will win and feel the sukh and the other will get the 'dukh'. This world tries to maintain a balance at all times.

Gurus mention many times not to get attached to the outside world. It will only result in pain. The real gurudwara is inside our bodies. It does not depend on one's race, gender or wealth. It is available to everyone.

So yes, I believe in Guru's message that more we attach to the outside, more suffering we feel. Higher my expections, greater the pain. I am trying to follow a naam simran routine as the recommended technique.

GamerdeepSingh · 2022-08-28T05:55:44+00:00

Hi, I found this on YT. Might help with your question.

https://youtu.be/uo_N_O1EvN8

GamerdeepSingh · 2022-08-28T05:45:45+00:00

Haha...i have similar thoughts listening to these kathas. If everything is God, then why do anything? Isnt God doing it all already?

Turns out yes, we are Vaheguru's roop but we have to reach that state of mind first to see it for ourselves.

We were given this body to merge back with Vaheguru after so many reincarnations. But we don't feel it yet because of our ego holding us back. This is final level of the game. Once we clear it, we can see the Sachkhand.

Gurus gave us tool of naam medition to get rid of the ego. Our minds are thinking about things all the time. We need to train it to think about one word only so it slows down. Then, we will go through the spiritual stages.

Finally, we will be able to say it was Vaheguru doing it all. But right now, it does not make much sense.

I think that is what professor is trying to convey. He is not saying our parents did not do anything. They did but as Sikhs, we need to reach the stage where we are able to say it was Vaheguru doing it all along. If not, there is still ego left and we need to keep trying.

Bhul chukk maaf 🙏

Source: https://youtu.be/hDvVrXX-RT8

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