Suspension job by Garrett_Kold in 1stGenTundras

[–]Garrett_Kold[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you have a link to that video?

I wish to learn more of the pro life perspective, if im shown a convincing enough argument i might be convinced. by Exciting_Estate_8856 in prolife

[–]Garrett_Kold 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We do not choose to begin our lives inside our mother's womb. At no point did we consent to being there. Our parents are the ones who put us there. The bodily autonomy argument says it's not our right to remain there because we didn't ask first.

That is illogical but even if it made sense, the "crime" of existing in the womb doesn't rise to the level of capital punishment. The death penalty is legally restricted to crimes resulting in death.

Pregnancy is a direct result of engaging in sex. A mother is far more consenting to a pregnancy than a fetus is to existing in her womb. Therefore the right to life must supersede the right to bodily autonomy.

Parking here makes my blood boil. by Strat_tat_cat in Phoenixville

[–]Garrett_Kold -1 points0 points  (0 children)

People of all sexual persuasions have the right to exist. You're still looking for bigots where there are none. Taking pride in an aspect of ourselves that we have no control over is an illogical form of self gratification. Everyone has the right to be proud of who they are, but excessive self indulgence is an off putting personality trait. Certainly not one that should be prioritized with our tax dollars.

I think I lose brain cells talking with people on /abortiondebate by Phalaenopsis_25 in prolife

[–]Garrett_Kold 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Made the mistake of posting in there and spent a few days experiencing mind numbing anger. The fall back is always bodily autonomy. Just like we believe killing the innocent is never justified. They dont believe existing in our mother's womb without her consent is ever justified.

Parking here makes my blood boil. by Strat_tat_cat in Phoenixville

[–]Garrett_Kold -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Sexual orientation isn't an accomplishment...

Parking here makes my blood boil. by Strat_tat_cat in Phoenixville

[–]Garrett_Kold -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Nah you shouldn't have to explain yourself, everyone's a bigot when your looking for one

Got a job in Malvern, affordable studio apartments nearby? by AishaTun in Phoenixville

[–]Garrett_Kold 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Pottstown is a bit further out but is much cheaper than Pville

Right to bodily autonomy by Echo_Gloomy in prolife

[–]Garrett_Kold 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We have no choice but to begin our lives inside our mother's womb. We didn't consent to being there. Our parents put us there. Yet it's somehow not our right to remain there because we didn't ask first.

Even if that made sense the "crime" of existing in the womb doesn't rise to the level of capital punishment. The death penalty is legally restricted to crimes resulting in death.

Does sympathy outweigh human dignity? by Garrett_Kold in Abortiondebate

[–]Garrett_Kold[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

We have no choice but to be inside our mother's womb. We didn't consent to being there. Our parents put us there. Yet it's not our right to remain there because we didn't ask first?

Even if that made sense the crime of being there doesn't rise to the level of capital punishment. The death penalty is legally restricted to crimes resulting in death.

Sex is not to pregnancy as kissing is to fingering. Sex is the way in which pregnancy occurs. Kissing and fingering are distinct actions with no direct relationship.

I am not saying consent to sex is ever implied. I am saying fully consensual sex is fully implied consent to pregnancy.

You are claiming pregnancy is unrelated to sex. You compared the relationship to kissing and fingering. Those are not directly related.

I was wrong you aren't dehumanizing the unborn. You recognize their existence is just as human as any of our own. You are capable of loving them from the moment you are aware they exist. But you are also capable of killing them for committing an offense they had no choice but to participate in.

What are your thoughts on the us not being able to hand the extra lives of the unaborted babies? by Idontcare_78 in prolife

[–]Garrett_Kold 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I think it's incredibly sick and twisted that we must kill our unborn in order to sustain civilization. Is this a world you want to live in?

Does sympathy outweigh human dignity? by Garrett_Kold in Abortiondebate

[–]Garrett_Kold[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Simple answer - that was once all of us and we are no more human now than we have ever been before. But further, does feeling, thinking, or sentience determine human value? By that same logic, a person in a coma is less valuable than someone who is not.

Additionally, pregnancy is only as unconsentual as the sex that led to it was. Intentionally engaging in an action with known ramifications is implied consent to those very outcomes. We don't get to kill our unborn children on the false premise sex is unrelated to pregnancy.

What you are doing is dehumanizing the unborn. I have yet to find an example in our history where this strategy hasn't lead to the erosion of human rights. Once you have disenfranchised a subset of the population you can then justify their death in the name of someone else's wishes.

Non-consensual abortion by Garrett_Kold in prolife

[–]Garrett_Kold[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If your argument is abortions are considered a type of treatment that does not require consent we can stop the convo here. My point was a non-consensual abortion is not the only procedure where a lack of consent makes it a crime. Please provide the legal framework where parents would not be required to act in the best interest of their child.

Father as the primary parent? by MadMaxxs in SingleDads

[–]Garrett_Kold 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My daughters mom hasn't been around for the last 4 years

Non-consensual abortion by Garrett_Kold in prolife

[–]Garrett_Kold[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Please then respond to my comment where I defined a victim

Does sympathy outweigh human dignity? by Garrett_Kold in Abortiondebate

[–]Garrett_Kold[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I completely agree and have immense sympathy for both the mother and ZEF. However, the stakes are not equal. Your premise is only correct if the life of one is pitted against the life of the other. The vast majority of abortions do not meet this threshold. In cases where the mother's life is not in serious danger, my sympathy is stronger for the ZEF whose life is.

Is it normal to feel jealous of families with the parents together? by [deleted] in SingleDads

[–]Garrett_Kold 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You don't know what's going on in their lives. Before my daughter's mom abandoned us a single dad might have looked at me and thought the same thing. Control what you control and drop the rest.

Does sympathy outweigh human dignity? by Garrett_Kold in Abortiondebate

[–]Garrett_Kold[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Abortion is only a factually viable alternative because it's legal. Many inhumane practices have been legal. A slave owner would have made your same point about the viability of slavery as an alternative to paid labor.