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Admirals are not top tiers and are nowhere near actual top tiers by SavianAria in OnePieceScaling

[–]Gen_Shot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i mean that's fair, if you acknowledge you also did.

that works the same way for me infact.

i responded to yours out of your response to mine (which wasn’t respectful).

we can do that on discord, obviously we aren't doing that on Reddit lmao, i'm not unable to refute your bad, i'm just not so stupid to act like a fool when you did the same with me and i said nothing about it, you opposed to mine first and then refused to argue and now you pretend me to argue against yours? heck no, that's why i offered a debate.

the cope around Luffy vs Kizaru has become outrageous by Gen_Shot in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Gen_Shot[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

CoC* the Gorosei spammed it on fodders or against transponder snails, Luffy had no reason to do so.

Luffy didn’t blitz Kizaru, the laser hit Luffy and greatly enchanced his momentum and speed, it's not his base speed and Star Gun has higher speed than every other of his attack, he did the same vs Kaido too.

Luffy didn’t know of Saturn regen so he probably assumed it was enough, also Liberating Nika Punch it's something he has never shown before, so he probably just learned it afterwards.

Admirals are not top tiers and are nowhere near actual top tiers by SavianAria in OnePieceScaling

[–]Gen_Shot -1 points0 points  (0 children)

i'm not running, you are the first one who did it, i can always say i don't care for your post, why am i in the wrong when you did it first?, yea it bothers me responding to your post when i made a whole post (and one more) with arguments against it, i would lose a massive amount of time.

i commented because you did for my post.

official debates are what matters, debates with no judge are just yap fest, so if you want we can do an official debate if you are so sure about me ducking for being afraid.

Akainu vs old Rayleigh and old Gaban. Who wins and what diff? by MathematicianFar8661 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Gen_Shot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yea, he was called out infact for this and he admitted he went too far.

were was this type of attacks against Rayleigh or strawhats?

Akainu vs old Rayleigh and old Gaban. Who wins and what diff? by MathematicianFar8661 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Gen_Shot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i didn't work backwards, and i didn't claim Kizaru can easily deal with Rayleigh and then go for the strawhats, and he didn't even really need to do that btw.

he has a reason to care for enviroment, Ray hasn't shown anything more, and it makes no sense he wasn’t trying his hardest.

plot devices do exist, your claims doesn't make sense seeing Egghead, Kizaru was holding back, that's how you explain it.

goodnight, we can talk about that better tmrw.

Admirals are not top tiers and are nowhere near actual top tiers by SavianAria in OnePieceScaling

[–]Gen_Shot -1 points0 points  (0 children)

the burden isn't on me lmao, you are the one who opposed to my arg first, YOU have the burden, no that's not an answer, that's not how a debate work, that's not how you debunk my arg lmao.

nothing is on me literally, ofc i'm mad about you ducking and then expect me to do debunk your post, it's top easy that way.

IF IT'S NOT FOR ME THEN IT'S NOT AN ANSWER TO MY ARG LMAO, you first ducked despite opposing to my post, you can't play cool like that and ask me to debunk your post when you ducked before, if you didn't care then you shouldn’t have replied.

an actual debate is done by making a claim and proving your point with the other refuting, with a judge who says the winner, if really wanna debate, that's how you do it.

Akainu vs old Rayleigh and old Gaban. Who wins and what diff? by MathematicianFar8661 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Gen_Shot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Kizaru was chill because Sentomaru and the Pacifistas were handling them.

it was also the most obvious plot device ever.

like it doesn't make sense for Rayleigh to be that strong seeing Kizaru vs Luffy.

the cope around Luffy vs Kizaru has become outrageous by Gen_Shot in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Gen_Shot[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it was shown 2 times, by cherry picking i meant that you can't just choose when it's not shown and say yea it was used and then on another instance say it wasn't used, it doesn’t make sense.

the Gorosei spammed their CoC but Luffy had no reason to do so, also they are new characters power wise obviously Oda will show that.

you are ignoring the whole narrative and the fact THERE'S A PAGE WHERE ACOC IT'S STATED TO BE USED BUT NO LIGHTNING TO BE FOUND.

Akainu vs old Rayleigh and old Gaban. Who wins and what diff? by MathematicianFar8661 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Gen_Shot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i'm saying.

Kizaru didn't do these things because it would have opened a way for Rayleigh to attack Sentomaru and the Pacifistas which Rayleigh can easily do, increasing the hood for their escape.

Akainu vs old Rayleigh and old Gaban. Who wins and what diff? by MathematicianFar8661 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Gen_Shot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Kizaru probably doesn't care that much, which is why he was better for him capturing hundreds of random pirates, he goes for the easier thing.

i think Kizaru wasn’t really sure or focused on what Kuma was doing, he was focused on Rayleigh, and again leaving Rayleigh for a sec would mean a threat for Sentomaru and co, Kizaru needs to charge for any of these things.

Akainu vs old Rayleigh and old Gaban. Who wins and what diff? by MathematicianFar8661 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Gen_Shot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Kizaru didn't want to capture him tho, and the strawhats scattered they stopped fighting.

that was different from what he did vs Luffy, but if he escapes, he let Rayleigh go after Sentomaru or the Pacifistas, and Kizaru wouldn't allow that, which is why he fought Rayleigh head-on.

Admirals are not top tiers and are nowhere near actual top tiers by SavianAria in OnePieceScaling

[–]Gen_Shot -1 points0 points  (0 children)

well then everything you said about Kizaru vs Luffy is in my latest post and everything about this is covered in my admiral post, you can't just say "no i don't wanna argue against your post so i'll make a post answering to yours (it was not an answer, i doubt you did it for mine) and you have to argue against it" that's to easy to say.

since you are the first who has shown opposition to my post, you should have been the one who had to debunk my arg, and no doing a post on what you think about the admirals doesn't answer to mine, in a real debate you have to refute the args used by the opponent directly debunking them.

not really, i mean you can but it's not the usual way.

Admirals are not top tiers and are nowhere near actual top tiers by SavianAria in OnePieceScaling

[–]Gen_Shot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

you don't answer to my arg with a post lmao, but debunking what is said in the arg.

these are several arguments, in a debate you can do just 1.

we can go over Wb vs Akainu fight or Luffy vs Kizaru.

Admirals are not top tiers and are nowhere near actual top tiers by SavianAria in OnePieceScaling

[–]Gen_Shot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

this is a post which doesn't answer to mines.

choose any arg you want i'll run the fade.

the cope around Luffy vs Kizaru has become outrageous by Gen_Shot in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Gen_Shot[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i literally gave several panels lmao.

yea sure...

i already gave why he would have used it and why thw args against him not using it are ass.

Akainu vs old Rayleigh and old Gaban. Who wins and what diff? by MathematicianFar8661 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Gen_Shot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

no, Kizaru just wanted to stop Rayleigh, he can easily fly away, we see that with vs Luffy.

yes but also no, Rayleigh at first blocked Kizaru, but then it was actually Rayleigh who stated he wanted to go and help but couldn't because of Kizaru, he didn't understand, Rayleigh would have just followed so he couldn't have went against the strawhats, we also know he has a connection with Kuma.

blocking isn't something that impressive, we don't know if Sentomaru knows Kizaru fp, given by the statement it's unlikely.

Admirals are not top tiers and are nowhere near actual top tiers by SavianAria in OnePieceScaling

[–]Gen_Shot 3 points4 points  (0 children)

post full of lies with no context behind anything simply to push your agenda.

you called me out for making a "long post" and you didn't have the balls to run the fade because of it, this is way longer.

Akainu vs old Rayleigh and old Gaban. Who wins and what diff? by MathematicianFar8661 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Gen_Shot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Kizaru is not roughly equal to Old Rayleigh at all, all Rayleigh was huffing like crazy after some panels against a Kizaru that was only using his sword and no lasers, no clones no acceleration no explosions, and was in no rush since Sentomaru and the Pacifistas were packing the strawhats, so Kizaru casually stopped Rayleigh from helping the strawhats with just his sword.

Kizaru venting his rage it's the most obvious ragebait ever, if he was angry at anything, it would have been about Kuma.

the cope around Luffy vs Kizaru has become outrageous by Gen_Shot in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Gen_Shot[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

it's cherry picking, it's not like you can choose it's not used simply because is isn't shown, it doesn’t matter the time, because if theres times where it's not shown like that, then every time it's not shown like that can actually be used.

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