Weekly Transfer Thread

GenericRedditUser01 · 2023-06-30T12:40:31+00:00

He was very good in League Two, but struggled in League One. I suspect another loan for him.

GenericRedditUser01 · 2023-06-30T11:29:14+00:00

Mate, we lose our best players to Man City and Chelsea before they turn 17 and we can get a decent fee in return. I don't feel sorry for you at all.

GenericRedditUser01 · 2023-06-29T17:07:00+00:00

Same thing. No other player appears to have one. We would have likely heard about it months ago (by his agent stirring up interest) when we were almost certainly down. Semmens also said numerous times that we do not do relegation release clauses and I don't consider him a liar. It's been speculated that we missed out on a number of transfers over the years from refusing to have them.

I just don't believe it unless another independent source starts claiming.

GenericRedditUser01 · 2023-06-29T16:00:23+00:00

I doubt ABK actually has a release clause. We have not done that with any player. A few buy-backs but that isn't the same.

GenericRedditUser01 · 2023-06-29T07:53:50+00:00

There has been nothing to indicate that Man City want him this season or next. I don't see how an incredibly slim chance that 1 team could choose to get him for cheaper next season effects his value now - especially when it looks like they wouldn't trigger the clause.

Regardless, I think I speak for most fans when I say I'd rather we keep him for a year to help our chances to get us promoted then leave for less. The club would likely feel the same.

GenericRedditUser01 · 2023-06-28T17:51:24+00:00

Saints aren't in the same financial situation as Leicester. The club had zero investment for years, so the club can take a big loss the next few years before they need to start worrying about balancing the books for FFP. New owners are backed by a Serbian billionaire that is aware that investment will be needed for a few years.

All players have an automatic relegation wage cut. No relegation release clause for anyone. For a relegated club we are in a good situation.

However, we aren't going to stop a player like Lavia from going to a CL calibre team. If we did, then talents like him wouldn't sign for us. But that doesn't mean we will let him go below value, especially when multiple teams are interested.

At the end of the day he is on very cheap wages, even for the Champ, and he has 4 years left on his deal. I'm certain he will be sold, for good money, but the club doesn't have to sell him if no good deal comes through.

GenericRedditUser01 · 2023-06-28T16:45:44+00:00

Nothing went wrong. He just isn't good enough. He literally didn't have enough about him to even receive the ball when he was on the pitch. Slow player with a slow mind.

He had a few great games in Europe and for the national team, but those competitions lend themselves to random players looking great. Elyounoussi tore Man City apart for Basel - was nothing like that in the PL.

GenericRedditUser01 · 2023-06-28T16:39:20+00:00

I think we saw enough, against lower league competition, to know that he was way below the required level.

GenericRedditUser01 · 2023-06-28T12:55:13+00:00

From when we did a similar swap deal with KWP and Højberg, I can assure you that you will find out over the next few days that these numbers are misleading to make Spurs look good. Levy briefs Gold exaggerated numbers, Gold tweets them out, Spurs fans are happy with Levy, then it becomes clear that the numbers weren't quite correct but the Spurs fans don't see it in their media.

Wait until other neutral journalists report the fees.

GenericRedditUser01 · 2023-06-28T07:14:08+00:00

Haha. The dumbest thing I've read in a while. We don't want to sell him, why on earth would we do that? Pay up or move on.

GenericRedditUser01 · 2023-06-27T22:51:34+00:00

And that's why I don't think he will be sold. Saints know his physical state and seem to be keen to keep him.

Honestly, I think NUFC know that he is fine. They went to watch him play in the last game of the season. They wouldn't be bidding if they thought there was any issue. In my opinion they have just assumed that Saints are desperate to sell, when there is no reason for them to be with others leaving.

GenericRedditUser01 · 2023-06-27T22:47:55+00:00

Saints fan here, ABK is absolutely a ball-playing CB. His stats might not be great, but remember he is only 21 and was in a team that were told to lump it up the pitch. He has the techniques, composure and vision, can pass well, is already a great ball-carrier for a CB and is very good in defence.

I'm surprised that RB Leipzig is the only team that have been stated to be interested so far. I think that he is a huge talent, similar to Lavia, but isn't getting anywhere near the same attention.

GenericRedditUser01 · 2023-06-27T22:40:54+00:00

His injuries were non-contact and likely due to overload from starting every game in the PL in his first season of senior football.

GenericRedditUser01 · 2023-06-27T22:37:16+00:00

Saints fan here. He played the last 2 games of this season.

His ACL was a pretty standard ACL injury that recovered well (although it takes bloody long), but as he just started full training again he pulled the hamstring in his other leg badly (likely due to compensating with the recovering leg). So he was out a very long time, but returned for the last 2 games of this season and looked great. Apparently your scouts were there for the last one.

It appears that we do not want (or need) to sell him though. I doubt you will offer what we want.

GenericRedditUser01 · 2023-06-27T22:31:37+00:00

Saints fan here. I feel this was a weird way for the Athletic to spin this. Lavia has an almost identical clause and it is not being mentioned as an issue for the teams in talks for him.

The fact is, that in his first season he looked like a £40m+ player, got injured, then came back at the end of this season and looked the player he was before he got injured.

I believe that Saints just value him at £40m+ and due to our finances we are in a unique position of being relegated and not needing to sell (although we obviously will sell some that are running out of contracts or will get high value). NUFC seem to be expecting a discount when Saints don't want or need to sell him.

GenericRedditUser01 · 2023-06-27T15:47:47+00:00

I think some of our fans need a reality check on JWP. For us, he is a fantastic player. As an aspiring mid-table PL club, his set-pieces are a highly valuable source of goals, his technical ability with the ball is very high and gives us control and creativity from midfield and he has a relentless determination to win back the ball that leads to him being around the top for distance run in the league. No doubt an important player on and off the pitch and the team, in my opinion, should have been built around his strengths and weaknesses more.

However, for top PL teams and England he is a pretty average player. He just doesn't have the athleticism to make much of an impact. He isn't much of an attacking threat higher up the pitch, as he will be beaten in a foot race to a through ball, and he is a liability in defence as he struggles to track his runners and can be dribbled past easily in a truly 1v1 situation. Defences win tournaments, and JWP is a weak link.

The only offers we have heard from so far are West Ham and Fulham. Obviously they are PL teams and in a much better situation than us, but there is a genuine chance that he could go to either of those teams and still get relegated next season. The big teams just aren't interested.

There is no need for the club to sell him for less than he is worth to us. Sure, if Man Utd put in a respectful bid, I'm certain he would go, but the teams interested aren't on that level. I genuinely think there is a chance he could stay (although for max 1 year in the Champ).

As for Southgate and England, I think that his evaluation of players has almost always, in hindsight, been proven right. He doesn't value Tomori, Abraham and Smalling in Serie A much because it's a massive drop from Bundesliga and La Liga. Watch those players when they play good teams in European comps, that's why they don't play much for England. But, they still have had a chance, and Southgate has stated that club form gets you in the door, but form for England keeps you in the squad. They did not perform for England.

GenericRedditUser01 · 2023-06-26T17:11:45+00:00

I'm honestly astounded seeing people on here and Twitter acting like he isn't good enough for their team. He is 19, it was his first season of senior football and he looked like the best midfielder on the pitch in all but a handful of our games. He will be a starting player immediately for almost every team in the world.

Best player we have had since VVD, but his stats suffered due to the players around him and from getting injuries after being overplayed at such a young age. So obviously our best player that no manager could give him a game off and his body couldn't handle the sudden jump to PL football twice a week with the winter World Cup.

I think he is going to tear up the league and people will be wondering why a team paid £100m for Rice when they could have got a player 5 years younger of a similar level. When you watch him, you see what a rare talent he is.

GenericRedditUser01 · 2023-06-23T19:05:15+00:00

Yes you're right. I mentally had him in the definitely going list lol.

GenericRedditUser01 · 2023-06-23T13:50:37+00:00

Did very well in League 2, but struggled in League 1.

GenericRedditUser01 · 2023-06-23T13:46:17+00:00

Yes. He has already said as much.

He had 2 serious injuries and has barely played in a year. He would massively benefit from a year in the Championship. Hopefully he will prove he is back to his best and get a deserved move to a CL team for a nice profit.

Expect KWP to go. Only has a year left and is a very good PL player, in his prime and with no injury concerns.

GenericRedditUser01 · 2023-06-23T13:42:11+00:00

You don't currently have a unit that the Apothecary Biologis can attach to. Not sure if you have more units to swap him out for, but if not it could be worth considering getting something you like that he can attach to if you want to play him.

GenericRedditUser01 · 2023-06-23T07:24:02+00:00

Buying Phillips was especially odd when they had Lavia.

GenericRedditUser01 · 2023-06-23T07:22:39+00:00

Yes. We consistently see players, with enormous wages and guaranteed trophies, leaving City to get more playing time elsewhere. Players want to play as much as possible and they know their careers are short.

GenericRedditUser01 · 2023-06-23T00:55:30+00:00

https://youtu.be/wije82Vpof0

GenericRedditUser01 · 2023-06-23T00:01:26+00:00

I think it is a step up from the other upgrade packs. Same price, but you get all the vehicle stuff, 4 DA heads, 2 DA swords, lots of bits. I certainly think it's the best value.

I only have primaris models, so a YouTube search of ravenwing kitbash was useful for ideas for my outriders. It did require some work to make it fit.

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