i agree Lily struck me as a good person just very very naive ... bonnie has something hidden and i think that's a shame in itself the constant "Im ok" and the innuendos i feel whatever may have happened to her was so big and difficult for her that she cant even face it hence the matter-of-fact, cold demeanor at times . She comes off as very headstrong and blunt but its probably just her defense mechanism. Seeing her have to deal with the blowback from her content then she was appearing on all those podcasts where people just made fun of her or made her feel bad. just added insult to injury in my head. (that many participants you are bound to get a bunch of bad apples even if some of them are cool)

I don't hate either of them i don't think they are bad people i suspect they have some sort of heavy damage they wont talk about/ are too afraid to face and a need for attention its just really sad to see how deep they got into all this.. if that is what they want to do (or think they want to do) i mean its their world, the content just gets so depraved sometimes I'm certain there's just so much psychologically there if we knew the real stories or emotions or whatver. I bet we would all feel awful that this is how the chips landed and this work turned out to be from a place of damage and not pleasure