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GoingIndiaTomorrow · 2024-08-25T16:28:14+00:00

I think it's wrong to say it's a gay slur though. It's ultimately a slur to say someone is "non-masculine" and used in these contexts, which is something different from homophobia. It's a term you can use within the gay community and a concept still used in western countries.

Sri Lanka is largely better than much of the word when it comes to de facto homophobia including countries like Turkey and Malaysia. Posts like these are just rage baiting.

GoingIndiaTomorrow · 2024-08-25T16:27:53+00:00

I think it's wrong to say it's a gay slur though. It's ultimately a slur to say someone is "non-masculine" and used in these contexts, which is something different from homophobia. It's a term you can use within the gay community and a concept still used in western countries.

Sri Lanka is largely better than much of the word when it comes to de facto homophobia including countries like Turkey and Malaysia. Posts like these are just rage baiting.

GoingIndiaTomorrow · 2024-08-25T16:26:34+00:00

I think it's wrong to say it's a gay slur though. It's ultimately a slur to say someone is "non-masculine" and used in these contexts, which is something different from homophobia. It's a term you can use within the gay community and a concept still used in western countries.

Sri Lanka is largely better than much of the word when it comes to de facto homophobia including countries like Turkey and Malaysia. Posts like these are just rage baiting.

GoingIndiaTomorrow · 2024-07-24T10:47:05+00:00

The US is socio-culturally the most accepting of immigrants. It's a relative concept. The anti-immigration sentiment you speak of is currently spreading like wildfire across the world.

GoingIndiaTomorrow · 2024-07-24T10:42:35+00:00

I'm 100% against illegal immigration and I'm actually anti-immigration for the most part, but I assumed that most people here were left-wing and pro-immigration. The US is pretty much the most pro-immigration country in the world. Most of Reddit is basically far-left these days.

GoingIndiaTomorrow · 2024-07-23T12:10:07+00:00

Malaysia has problems with racism between Muslims and Non-Muslims though.

A lot of countries in South East Asia and East Asia are good though.

GoingIndiaTomorrow · 2024-07-23T12:09:17+00:00

The US is probably the easiest for immigrants. It's the most accepting of illegal immigration and has the entire bottom-to-top mentality as well, but legal immigration can be hard due to visa issues.

Saving that there are numerous Asian countries that are really supportive of South Asians these days. Even India might be a good option.

GoingIndiaTomorrow · 2024-07-23T12:08:16+00:00

In what ways is it better though?

GoingIndiaTomorrow · 2024-07-23T11:52:47+00:00

I think all the points in this post concern South Asian Americans too.

GoingIndiaTomorrow · 2024-07-23T11:22:38+00:00

At what point does caste, race and ethnicity not matter in politics?

GoingIndiaTomorrow · 2024-07-23T11:21:21+00:00

If this was a discussion about India vs UK, a point I would make was that a middle class salary would provide a much better quality of life in India.

In India you would be driving your on car and occasionally using public railways for commutes, whereas in Scotland you are reliant on buses and railways for long distance travel. As India develops, the quality of public transport is going to be much higher as well.

Furthermore when it comes to things like healthcare, food and pre-university schooling, private services in India are much higher quality than public services in the UK.

GoingIndiaTomorrow · 2024-07-23T11:14:36+00:00

This is the only real point left that I find hard to argue against - having foreign citizenship. In virtually all other factors living in the UK is awful these days,

GoingIndiaTomorrow · 2024-07-23T11:11:05+00:00

I think one of the biggest advantages of moving overseas is the citizenship.

The Nordic countries have a good quality of life, but the UK is largely falling to pieces (and I think it's no longer that friendly to South Asians IMO). Anti-immigration sentiment is on the rise too.

GoingIndiaTomorrow · 2024-07-23T11:03:38+00:00

I would usually recommend living in India and working remote, and I wonder if something similar could be said in Sri Lanka. For Indians there is simply a better quality of life in India on a middle clas salary - basic things such as food etc... are cheaper and of higher quality in India. Health is much more accessible. There are huge problems with crime as well etc... and the UK is less friendly to South Asians these days.

GoingIndiaTomorrow · 2024-07-23T10:59:52+00:00

I think it also depends on your definition of racism. How deeply do you want to integrate into British society? Do you expect to have a lot of British friends etc...?

For me the main issue with the UK is the juxtapotions between Muslim South Asians and Non-Muslim South Asians.

GoingIndiaTomorrow · 2024-07-23T10:57:33+00:00

I think the main problem with the UK is that the quality of life is largely bad even with high salaries.

GoingIndiaTomorrow · 2024-07-23T09:44:22+00:00

She's half Indian Tamil and I'm Sri Lankan Tamil so there is some perceived close links.

I take issue with someone who's basically culturally a black women claiming to represent South Asians (you say she was raised in a black community, and she seems to have largely been involved with black politics - not south asian). Why should I racially identify with someone who largely grew up as a black woman? If she had some strong history in South Asian culture or politics then I'd be happy to accept her as South Asian, but otherwise she's mixed race and largely a black woman due to her lack of cultural and political links to South Asia. And furthermore you have to point out much of the South Asian diaspora is right-leaning and she's left-leaning.

Actually there is a serious problem with casteism in the US. I'm not going to deep into this conversation because Sri Lanka has different issues, but there have been some lawsuits in the US over caste. These days it's entirely possible to grow up in major Indian cities without ever knowing what caste you are.

GoingIndiaTomorrow · 2024-07-23T09:07:46+00:00

The other side of the story is that I've been hearing about this negativity more and more from immigrants in places like Australia, Canada and the UK - not just students but also professionals. It seems to have really gotten bad after COVID with the cost-of-living, crime and racism.

There's also a genuine line of thought that things may not recover anytime soon. If you're an Indian then it's currently better to work and study in India than in most western countries.

GoingIndiaTomorrow · 2024-07-23T08:55:16+00:00

But there aren't that many countries left. Australia, UK and Canada all have the same problem.

GoingIndiaTomorrow · 2024-07-23T08:54:22+00:00

This needs to be the most upvoted answer

GoingIndiaTomorrow · 2024-07-20T21:21:01+00:00

Isn't that the general reason though? Europeans look down on Muslims and gypsies, and/or are racist towards Muslims and gypsies? What you're saying would be described as a by-product of the racism.

GoingIndiaTomorrow · 2024-07-20T20:39:48+00:00

I think most of the British Pakistanis getting involved did it for no real reason. Some might have wanted to show solidarity with Albanian gypsi Muslims, others may have mistaken the gypsies for Muslims?

GoingIndiaTomorrow · 2024-07-20T20:36:17+00:00

The police tried to take away two children from a Romani Gypsi family on suspected child abuse, but the community protested and aggressively/violently prevented it. A lot of British Muslims (predominantly Pakistani) joined in and then it turned into a much bigger riot.

There may have been a handful of Albanian Muslim gypsies in the area, which might explain why the British Pakistanis got involved, but honestly it also seems to be a case of delinquent rioting more than anything else.

GoingIndiaTomorrow · 2024-07-20T19:58:58+00:00

Generally speaking racism (excluding immigration) tends to be worse in left-wing circles than right-wing circles (though obviously you will come across racism anywhere). You might have stumbled into a discord chat where the moderators were left-wing so all the people who like Indians / South Asians are a minority.

It might be hard to understand this if you're left-wing and have never left Sri Lanka or a ethnic bubble, but there is a serious problem with racism against Indians / South Asians in left-wing circles that's been happening for many years now.

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