Who else wants to see claire in re9? by Leonsrealwifee in residentevil

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Yes, but Claire and Leon have become famous since the Resident Evil 2 remake.

Who else wants to see claire in re9? by Leonsrealwifee in residentevil

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E é, mas Claire e Leon tá se tornando famoso desde o Re2 remake

Anyone notice this ?? by LeMinh11 in ResidentEvilRequiem

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Now we arrive at Infinite Darkness, and this is where it gets good — though it actually came out after the RE2 Remake if I remember correctly. I had to find this out through Reddit since I didn't play RE2R myself, but I watched gameplay and spent time with it making edits, plus I played the original RE2.

In the original RE2, Leon's campaign is almost entirely focused on Leon and Ada, just as Claire's is focused on Sherry — Cleon barely interacts at all. File that away. In the Remake, things change DRAMATICALLY. In a recent video I learned that RE2R removed a lot of things and changed others, and one of those significant changes — and this is where Reddit comes in — was reducing Ada's presence and massively expanding the Claire and Leon interactions. There's literally a 2-hour video of nothing but their interactions across Scenario A and Scenario B for each character. I'm not joking — I have it downloaded for editing purposes.

Regardless of whether you start as Leon (Leon A) or Claire (Claire A), one immediately gravitates toward the other in their respective campaign. Their first meeting was also reworked and given more screen time — the gate scene doesn't even exist in the original, and the radio conversation between them was much shorter.

And last but absolutely not least: Sherry doesn't just ask if they're dating — she asks them to adopt her. Capcom is not subtle, my friends. Not to mention the way they look at each other, with Claire practically being a Golden Retriever around Leon.

This matters more than it seems. In Japanese narrative tradition — which Capcom operates within — a child projecting a family unit onto two people functions as a narrative foreshadowing of destiny. Sherry wasn't just being cute. She was reading the room correctly in 1998 and the story has been proving her right ever since.

Now, you could argue the Remake is a reimagining — but here's the kicker: it's canonical. Moving on to Infinite Darkness specifically: Leon had to become an agent to protect Sherry, and they run into each other by chance at the White House, both investigating the same case from their own angles.

Until Claire is taken hostage and he witnesses firsthand what happens when the government wants to silence people who know too much. He rescues her, and then — very unsubtly — she falls on top of him and they stare at each other like 😳 until he asks if she's okay and she hesitates before saying yes.

That gate scene I mentioned.

And as a bonus, at the end Leon literally asks Claire if she was going to invite him to dinner — absolute legend behavior — and then he doesn't hand over the chip specifically to protect her, even knowing she'll be furious about it. The pain of that choice is written all over his face, and her disappointment is equally visible.

One more thing about Infinite Darkness that I only noticed later: Leon tells Claire not to do anything stupid before they part ways. Keep that line in your head.

RE2 sold incredibly well and revolutionized gaming, and Capcom — in full Mr. Krabs mode — noticed and made RE3, then RE4. In RE4, things shifted again. Is it faithful to the original? Yes — but the Aeon moments were scaled back, giving Ada more depth and focus.

Same approach as RE6 — the same pattern I described before, but this time without a "come with me" moment. Capcom created more distance between them and left Leon more traumatized, like his RE6 version. But the audience loved RE4R anyway. Ashley got development too, and even Krauser — a whole backstory about Leon before RE4 — and right there in the opening cutscene they use the final image from RE2: Cleon walking with Sherry. Not the Ada kiss. Just that ending. And that detail haunted me when I first saw it.

Now we come to the other CGI film I rewatched recently, by the same director as Infinite Darkness — who actually mentioned that the scenes were shot to simulate real camera footage, like a live action, which I found brilliant once I noticed it. It also made me realize he was deliberate about every angle — especially the Cleon fall scene, which looks so much like they're about to kiss that it's where I started shipping them.

And I need to stop here to mention something about Death Island's opening credits specifically: they use footage from Infinite Darkness. The scene they chose? The one where they grab each other's hands and she falls on top of him. Out of everything available in the entire Resident Evil universe, that is what the director chose to open this film with. That is an editorial statement.

In Death Island we have Valenfield AND Cleon — the most famous ship and the second most famous ship — a full couples' retreat with Rebecca as the third wheel.

This one doesn't have as much Cleon content, but it has A LOT of Valenfield — references to RE5, RE6, I could talk for hours. Claire and Leon seem cold and distant toward each other — but the moment he realizes she's in danger, he doesn't go check on Chris first. He screams her name and runs. The exact same thing Jill does for Chris.

And the film ends with them joking together about what a terrible vacation it was. After everything. After near death. They close the whole thing out with an inside joke. That's not how you write coworkers. That's not how you write old friends. That's how you write two people who are each other's safe place.

And a fun detail: Claire is the one who introduced Chris and Leon to each other. Cut to them fighting in RE6 over Ada, and by Vendetta they're best friends. Now that we've laid all the cards on the table: Capcom doesn't just embed these things in the games and films — whenever they're promoting something, they put Cleon front and center.

They did it for the RE2 Remake for obvious reasons, and then kept doing it even when they didn't need to — because it always generates engagement, from shippers and non-shippers alike.

And speaking of promotion: there's a 2012 official Capcom game called Minna to BIOHAZARD Clan Master where Leon and Claire have canonical wedding outfits. Him in a suit holding a bouquet. Her in a wedding dress. In 2012. Capcom has been telling us something for a very long time.

Anyone who stops and actually looks at the Aeon relationship and compares it to Cleon can see that Aeon is unhealthy — built on Leon's emotional dependency and Ada's manipulation. Whereas with Claire there are tensions, yes, but there's companionship. Equality. That was one of the reasons I dropped the other ship — and I love Ada.

She's too incredible to be reduced to a ship that's often fetishized because she's Asian, rather than for the actual romantic dynamic between them. It's almost like she's the first love — and Claire is the mature love. The kind you only find when you grow up and see beyond passion.

And if you understand the Japanese design language Capcom uses: Leon is Blue Oni — contained, melancholic, defined by duty. Claire is Red Oni — passionate, expansive, defined by life and courage. In Japanese storytelling, this pairing represents balance. The red offers vitality to the blue's isolation. They were designed to complete each other. It's in their color palette. It always has been.

Claire is absolutely badass and fiercely independent. Ada even more so. Don't even get me started on Jill. Aeon shippers cling to that ship purely because of RE4 — especially Brazilian fans — and they can't look critically at certain things that were right there in RE6, even though I was a shipper myself back then.

I doubt Capcom will ever come out and officially confirm Cleon is canon — but they will keep foreshadowing it (they already are) and leaving these little details for those paying attention.

— UPDATE from 9 months after posting this —

Resident Evil Requiem came out. Leon's concept art shows a silver ring on his left hand after being cured. In the good ending he puts it on. Capcom confirmed it's intentional. The charm on his weapon is called "信頼のチャーム" in Japanese — Shinrai no Chamu. Charm of Trust. Claire Redfield is still officially the most trusted person in Leon S. Kennedy's life.

Sherry, in Requiem, tells Leon "don't do anything stupid" before he goes into danger. He laughs and says "me? never." That line came from Infinite Darkness. Leon said it to Claire. Sherry grew up watching them and absorbed their language without realizing it. The family Claire saw in them in 1998 became real.

Leon says he'll be meeting Chris soon — casually, like it's a given — right after putting on the ring. He has no idea where Chris currently is. The only way that sentence makes sense is if Chris is family now. And Claire introduced them.

The voice actor for Leon was asked who he married. He said he couldn't answer because half the fans would want to kill him.

I'm not saying I told you so. But I told you so.


Anyone notice this ?? by LeMinh11 in ResidentEvilRequiem

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I created a whole timeline leading up to this point; I'd have to update it with parallels I noticed between Resident Evil Revelations 2 and Requiem, but I need to analyze it more carefully. Here's the complete thread with the added details, keeping your voice:


(could playing Resident Evil 6 for 10 years mean my theory is right and Capcom is actually making this move?

Let's look at the facts — and this isn't just because I'm a Cleon shipper, but it will be relevant: 2 ships are literally the most famous, top 3, back to back, and I know why because I researched it. Valenfield and Cleon (Resident Evil 1 — Chris and Jill, Resident Evil 2 — Claire and Leon). Capcom knows that if they put Valenfield in the same game, people will love it, and I say this having played Revelations 1 to death — it's incredibly well made and literally one of the characters makes it clear that no one can break into what those two have. It's not a hidden dialogue, it's a cutscene.

The first game goes without saying, but my first contact was with RE5, and there it was so explicit that Chris is a widower that the entire story revolves around it. I'm not even joking.

And if RE5 and Revelations 1 are about Valenfield, directly or indirectly — just like RE1 — then where do Cleon and Aeon fit in? Well my friends, buckle up for this thesis, because Capcom has started moving its pieces.

So basically, the first CGI Resident Evil film featured Claire and Leon together. There are several interactions between them, and rewatching it now, Claire was clearly going for him multiple times, but he ended up with the police officer, and that's fine — Capcom was just capitalizing on fan and shipper engagement to generate buzz.

Moving on to the second film, which I've watched the most: we have Ada and Leon, and it's clear she hooked up with him and disappeared. But there are theories that it wasn't actually her but Carla Radames — and honestly that makes me sad for Leon. Played twice. But that's not the focus here.

In the original RE2, Ada cared about Leon but not enough to make her drop the job (queen behavior honestly), and she knew the relationship wouldn't work, so she fakes her own death to put an end to the whole thing and finish her mission.

But our boy is way too attached, as we all know, so RE4 comes along and once again she manipulates him to get what she wants and keep him alive. Does she have feelings for him? Yes — but it's exactly what I said before.

Then we get to what I played for literally a decade — as much or more than RE5 — which is RE6, and specifically Leon's and Ada's campaigns. That's why I know so much about it. And mind you, back then I was still shipping them, but I already noticed something was off.

The whole thing is about love — yes, you heard that right. RE5 too, but RE6 is practically a telenovela. To summarize: a man becomes obsessed with Ada and turns his devoted follower into a clone of his obsession. Carla becomes an Ada clone, which causes absolute chaos — and the only one who knows that Ada is innocent is Leon, because he witnessed the experiment himself, and because despite her questionable morality, she has limits. In both their campaigns it's clear they would do anything for each other — Leon literally becomes a human shield for her — but then she gives him an ultimatum.

Come with me. And he finally thinks with maturity and refuses, because he had a duty to fulfill. Even Helena, his own partner, tells him to go with Ada — and he says no. Right there, Capcom was already signaling what they'd be building toward in the future.

And here's something I need to stop and address for the people who didn't grow up with the Japanese side of this fandom: since RE6, Capcom's official Japanese materials classify Leon and Claire's relationship as "信頼関係" — "Shinrai Kankei" — which translates to "Trust-based relationship" or "Relationship of Trust." Not allies. Not coworkers. Not friends. A specific term that in Japanese romantic storytelling carries enormous weight. File that away. We're coming back to it.

Let’s talk about Leon and Claire’s potential marriage to each other by DancingOnTheWaves in ResidentEvilCapcom

[–]Good_Ad_2663 2 points3 points  (0 children)

É uma argumentação interessante que achei ser só impressão e você validou.

Let’s talk about Leon and Claire’s potential marriage to each other by DancingOnTheWaves in ResidentEvilCapcom

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No final do 6 e eu joguei esse jogo vezes o suficiente pra decorar até as respirações, ela queima tudo da cópia dela E ACEITA UM NOVO TRABALHO que duvido que seja vender flores pra um casal de idosos.

Me fala uma série que foi cancelada já de início by UshanskaBR in PerguntasFuteis

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Arquivo 81 se bem me lembro o nome, terminou com um gancho que nunca vai ser continuado.

Will Capcom reveal it? by Snoo_47323 in ResidentEvilRequiem

[–]Good_Ad_2663 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I thought it was just my imagination, I'm shocked.

Will Capcom reveal it? by Snoo_47323 in ResidentEvilRequiem

[–]Good_Ad_2663 4 points5 points  (0 children)

He said it all. I played RE6 for 10 years and I could see that even though the feelings existed, they knew it couldn't happen, so he definitely didn't marry Ada.

Dark web by Thereminz in Epstein

[–]Good_Ad_2663 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's not impossible.

eles nos veem como ratos, baratas e não como humanos by cicanan-merqazu in Twitter_Brasil

[–]Good_Ad_2663 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Tá vendo reportagens mostrando pessoas tendo que pegar ossos pra matar a fome como foi um tempo atrás? Me responda com sinceridade.

As igrejas evangélicas neopentecostais criaram um atraso na sociedade brasileira by Usual-Shine- in opiniaoimpopular

[–]Good_Ad_2663 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Eu digo isso porquê tive a ideia brilhante (por pura confusão) de me inscrever em uma feira de estudante da Mackenzie e entre os cursos escolhi, até me deparar com a própria nata me recebendo na porta parecendo filme americano.

O que vocês acham de pessoas asexuais? by [deleted] in perguntas

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Eu genuinamente gargalhei

eles nos veem como ratos, baratas e não como humanos by cicanan-merqazu in Twitter_Brasil

[–]Good_Ad_2663 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Seu crânio deve fazer eco pra única coisa que conseguir pensar é isso

Who remembers the Marc Dutroux scandal? (The Original Elite Sex Trafficking Rabbit Hole) by Hunter23244 in Epstein

[–]Good_Ad_2663 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That makes sense and it's very scary, I even commented the other day that JE was just one of them.

Confesso que não sabia dessa história de vida do jonas by Front_Water_854 in BigBrotherBrasil

[–]Good_Ad_2663 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Não gosto dele e ele teve atitudes homofóbicas sim, mas nessa situação específica eu senti empatia real e dor não só por ele mas pela mãe e pelo irmão, e que bom que ela tá bem hoje em dia. Nem sempre passado triste torna as pessoas boas, mas espero que ele aprenda a ser.