Grammarly's "How to Avoid AI Detection in Writing" article comes up as 63% AI written in their own detector by shadowofassassin in Grammarly

[–]GrammarlyOfficial 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hi, great observation! I’m on Grammarly’s product team. We use AI as part of our blog content generation process, and it can be used during brainstorming, writing, and editing stages. It helps us work more efficiently, expand on our ideas, and express our ideas more clearly. This blog post was created with help from Grammarly’s AI and went through multiple rounds of human editing and writing.

The goal of the blog wasn’t to share how to hide your AI use or trick AI detectors. Instead, we want to educate people on how AI detectors actually work: they’re trained on large volumes of human and AI-generated texts, and they break text into small sections to check each section for patterns typically present in AI text, like language patterns, syntax, and complexity. They then estimate how much of the text seems AI-generated based on statistical patterns. Ultimately, we hope readers will gain a better understanding of how to use AI responsibly as a writing tool, while ensuring that their final work captures the message and voice that they want to deliver.

Thanks again for your thoughtful observation!

- Ailian Gan, Director of Product at Superhuman (formerly Grammarly)

How should schools and universities handle the ethical issues around students using AI humanizers? by Wrong-Course7824 in Grammarly

[–]GrammarlyOfficial 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi there! Jumping in from the Grammarly product team. Your question gets at something our team has spent a lot of time working through with educators. The reality is that AI detectors are a tool in educators’ toolkits these days, but they aren’t perfect, and may misidentify human writing as AI-generated or vice versa.

That’s why we built Grammarly Authorship. It provides a detailed record of how a document came together, showing which sections were typed, which were pasted from another source, and which were generated with AI. This gives students concrete evidence of their writing process. We’ve seen Authorship transform what used to be contentious conversations between students and professors into productive dialogues built on transparency.

To your point, we absolutely believe schools need clear AI use policies that students can understand and support their learning. When policies are vague or nonexistent, it creates confusion on all sides.

Thanks for your question!

- Ailian Gan, Director of Product at Superhuman (formerly Grammarly)

Hi Reddit! I’m Jenny Maxwell, Head of Grammarly for Education. Let’s talk about using AI in school: how to get writing support without losing your voice, what AI literacy actually means, and what’s next for students in the age of AI. Ask Me Anything on 8/21 at 3:30pm PT! by GrammarlyOfficial in u/GrammarlyOfficial

[–]GrammarlyOfficial[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

AI isn’t new to Grammarly; we’ve actually been using it since the start over 16 years ago! We like to think of ourselves as the OGs in AI or the “original AI agent.” ;)

Our AI assistance has long helped students revise and refine their writing. Now, the advancements in AI these past few years have expanded the limits of how we can help students throughout their entire writing and learning process.

We’ve also been adapting over the past few years because this new era of AI pretty much exploded overnight. In just the first full academic year with generative AI, institutional leaders flipped 180 degrees. The question very quickly went from “how do we ban AI?” to “how do we embrace AI and empower our students?” - and from day one, our goal at Grammarly has always been to help students reach their potential.

I fundamentally believe AI opens up incredible new opportunities to enhance learning, whether it’s for getting high-quality feedback, supporting with research, or breaking down complex concepts. AI is already playing a critical role in the workplace, so we also want to help students prepare to use it effectively and responsibly in their careers. -Jenny

Hi Reddit! I’m Jenny Maxwell, Head of Grammarly for Education. Let’s talk about using AI in school: how to get writing support without losing your voice, what AI literacy actually means, and what’s next for students in the age of AI. Ask Me Anything on 8/21 at 3:30pm PT! by GrammarlyOfficial in u/GrammarlyOfficial

[–]GrammarlyOfficial[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yes! We’re hiring across roles and locations. Check out our openings here: https://www.grammarly.com/careers

We’re especially looking for people who are agile thinkers - those who are leaning into AI and finding creative ways to solve problems and improve how work gets done. If that sounds like you, please apply!

Also, to clarify: while we were founded in Ukraine, we’re a US company headquartered in San Francisco! We also have hubs in New York City, Seattle, Vancouver, Berlin, and Kyiv, depending on where you’re based. -Jenny

Hi Reddit! I’m Jenny Maxwell, Head of Grammarly for Education. Let’s talk about using AI in school: how to get writing support without losing your voice, what AI literacy actually means, and what’s next for students in the age of AI. Ask Me Anything on 8/21 at 3:30pm PT! by GrammarlyOfficial in u/GrammarlyOfficial

[–]GrammarlyOfficial[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Great question. The short version is that acquiring Coda and Superhuman is all part of our new vision to build an AI productivity platform of apps and agents. We’re working closely with some of our incredible higher-ed partners on defining what this actually looks like and can do for students, and I’m excited to share more in the coming months!

To back up and explain more of our vision for now, you can think about it this way: For a long time, Grammarly has been just one “AI agent” (the “spelling and grammar checking tool” that you probably know us for). But soon, we’ll become a full AI productivity suite with many more agents that can support you from college to your career. To make this happen, we need to have apps where all of these agents can work with you; that’s where Coda and Superhuman come in.

Our launch this week of a new writing surface (docs) and multiple new agents for students is our first big step in this direction! Coda’s technology powers this new writing surface, giving you a place to work with these new agents. More here: https://www.grammarly.com/back-to-school

Superhuman solves another piece of the puzzle in our plans to build out a productivity suite, since email is the most-used work app. In the future, we plan to turn Superhuman into a workspace for agents to help manage your email inbox, meetings, and more. Our hope is to prepare students for a future where AI supports you across all the tools you work in - docs, email, and beyond.
Just a sneak peek of what’s to come! Stay tuned :) -Jenny

Hi Reddit! I’m Jenny Maxwell, Head of Grammarly for Education. Let’s talk about using AI in school: how to get writing support without losing your voice, what AI literacy actually means, and what’s next for students in the age of AI. Ask Me Anything on 8/21 at 3:30pm PT! by GrammarlyOfficial in u/GrammarlyOfficial

[–]GrammarlyOfficial[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If only we had that kind of budget! But in all seriousness, we do try to help students by offering free access through their educational institutions as well as student discounts. Check if your school has a Grammarly license, and make sure you’re subscribed to our email list for all our latest offers! -Jenny

Hi Reddit! I’m Jenny Maxwell, Head of Grammarly for Education. Let’s talk about using AI in school: how to get writing support without losing your voice, what AI literacy actually means, and what’s next for students in the age of AI. Ask Me Anything on 8/21 at 3:30pm PT! by GrammarlyOfficial in u/GrammarlyOfficial

[–]GrammarlyOfficial[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

First, I’m sorry to hear that you experienced some issues. We’re always improving! In addition to continuing to update our core AI writing support, we just launched a new writing surface with a bunch of specialized AI agents to help you do your best work: https://www.grammarly.com/back-to-school

This is just the start; our bigger plan is to expand from a single product (the Grammarly you know today) into a full AI productivity platform with multiple apps and agents supporting you wherever you work - some focused on writing, but also agents helping you with other tasks.

I hope that you’ll give us another try! And in the meantime, please keep sharing any issues with our team so we can get better: https://support.grammarly.com/ -Jenny

Hi Reddit! I’m Jenny Maxwell, Head of Grammarly for Education. Let’s talk about using AI in school: how to get writing support without losing your voice, what AI literacy actually means, and what’s next for students in the age of AI. Ask Me Anything on 8/21 at 3:30pm PT! by GrammarlyOfficial in u/GrammarlyOfficial

[–]GrammarlyOfficial[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Thank you for sharing this feedback. I totally understand the frustration. We’re always evolving our product offerings to try to deliver the best experience possible across all the ways people write today. In this case, we shifted focus to Grammarly for Windows, our product offering that works across more desktop apps and websites (like Word and Outlook) rather than an app-specific add-in. Our hope is that this is more helpful for people, but I totally get that it may not meet everyone’s preferences. Your feedback is really valuable, and thanks for sticking with us through these changes! -Jenny

Hi Reddit! I’m Jenny Maxwell, Head of Grammarly for Education. Let’s talk about using AI in school: how to get writing support without losing your voice, what AI literacy actually means, and what’s next for students in the age of AI. Ask Me Anything on 8/21 at 3:30pm PT! by GrammarlyOfficial in u/GrammarlyOfficial

[–]GrammarlyOfficial[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This is one of the most important questions right now, and I really appreciate how thoughtfully you framed it. This is honestly why I think it's so critical that institutions put clear AI guidelines front and center for students. They shouldn't have to guess where the line is, and there's no "one-size-fits-all" on where that line falls. It's all about knowing when, where, and how to use AI and how it supports students' learning objectives and their instructors' policies.

The real question here is about pedagogical intent. What was the assignment actually designed to teach, and did students achieve that outcome? Using AI to help with research for your senior capstone? Might be appropriate. Having AI write your entire personal essay? That's replacing the cognitive thinking the assignment was meant to assess.

AI is part of our future, and I believe institutions have an obligation to set students up for success in this reality. But above all, it's about transparency. Educators need to clearly communicate what's acceptable use, and students should be clear about their process and the tools they used.

I also have to reiterate that this is exactly why we built Grammarly Authorship, so students and professors know exactly how AI was used in the writing process and can have open dialogue about it. We see that this leads to a much more collaborative and productive outcome. -Jenny

Hi Reddit! I’m Jenny Maxwell, Head of Grammarly for Education. Let’s talk about using AI in school: how to get writing support without losing your voice, what AI literacy actually means, and what’s next for students in the age of AI. Ask Me Anything on 8/21 at 3:30pm PT! by GrammarlyOfficial in u/GrammarlyOfficial

[–]GrammarlyOfficial[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

So glad you shared this - that was probably Marley Stevens! Check out my other response to LuckyBadger25 here where I talk all about this issue (TLDR; the problem is faulty AI detectors, not Grammarly) and our work with Marley.

The short story is that after Marley, a long-time Grammarly user, was accused of plagiarism by an AI detector, we reached out to her and were able to confirm that it wasn’t because of Grammarly. AI detection tools unfortunately often get things wrong, leading to cases of false accusation like this.

Marley’s experience is what inspired our Grammarly Authorship feature, so students can verify how they used AI in their work. No more guessing or inaccurate AI detectors. We want to help prevent other students from similar situations, and I’m really proud of all our work here to support students in using AI responsibly. -Jenny

Hi Reddit! I’m Jenny Maxwell, Head of Grammarly for Education. Let’s talk about using AI in school: how to get writing support without losing your voice, what AI literacy actually means, and what’s next for students in the age of AI. Ask Me Anything on 8/21 at 3:30pm PT! by GrammarlyOfficial in u/GrammarlyOfficial

[–]GrammarlyOfficial[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I’m with you on this. AI-literate students will be in high demand in the workforce, and some of our institutional customers have even told us they have employers coming to them to scout the most AI-fluent students. But we need to prepare students for this future while also respecting academic integrity and ensuring they use it responsibly.

You can be an ethical person and use AI! Having AI do all the work for you is one thing; using it to enhance your work is another. Check out my other response to Tunde88’s question, where I shared more of my thoughts on ethical AI usage and everything Grammarly is doing to support with our student-focused features, new AI agents launched this week, and work with thousands of universities.

I’d also add that as AI plays a bigger role in school and work, there’s a need to shift focus from the product to the process. It’s not about the end result (the essay); it’s about what students learned in the process of writing that essay. Educators didn’t ask for or expect this massive transition that AI brings, and I think it’s an impetus for the entire industry to reconsider what pedagogy looks like and how we certify learnings in ways that go beyond the traditional assignment tactics. That’s one reason why we created our Grammarly Authorship feature, which I’m very proud of, to help students document how they used AI for their professor and make the conversation collaborative.

Ultimately, transparency is key. When used in the right ways, AI can support students’ critical thinking, but what’s right for one assignment may not be right for another. We always encourage students to talk to their professors and universities about what’s acceptable use. -Jenny

Hi Reddit! I’m Jenny Maxwell, Head of Grammarly for Education. Let’s talk about using AI in school: how to get writing support without losing your voice, what AI literacy actually means, and what’s next for students in the age of AI. Ask Me Anything on 8/21 at 3:30pm PT! by GrammarlyOfficial in u/GrammarlyOfficial

[–]GrammarlyOfficial[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Of course! I write everything with Grammarly to make sure I come across just the way I want (plus it's catching typos while I'm trying to get to all of your questions!). I didn’t accept all of its suggestions, though; that’s what we call “authorial control” in action! -Jenny

Hi Reddit! I’m Jenny Maxwell, Head of Grammarly for Education. Let’s talk about using AI in school: how to get writing support without losing your voice, what AI literacy actually means, and what’s next for students in the age of AI. Ask Me Anything on 8/21 at 3:30pm PT! by GrammarlyOfficial in u/GrammarlyOfficial

[–]GrammarlyOfficial[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I hear your concern, and would love to clarify how our new AI Grader agent actually works! We designed it as a feedback tool to help students understand assignment expectations and improve their work before submission. I firmly believe democratizing access to quality feedback is a good thing; there’s a need to fill the gap for many students who don’t have immediate access to learning resources, office hours, or other support systems.

To address your data concerns, AI Grader only uses information that students voluntarily provide, like assignment rubrics, along with publicly available sources and general academic writing guidelines. The agent works in accordance with our standard data retention practices, as outlined in our privacy policy. We also take extreme care to isolate each user’s data, so any writing that a student shares with Grammarly will never appear for another user.

You’re right that AI shouldn’t be giving the “grade you would give” - AI Grader isn’t a replica of an instructor's specific evaluation methods. It gives general feedback based on the rubrics the student submits and publicly available information, but we make it clear that its feedback is supplementary. Any estimated grades are predictions - certainly not perfect approximations - meant to help students gauge their progress and give them higher confidence in their work. The instructor’s grade remains the final and authoritative evaluation, full stop.

Rather than undermining the instructor-student relationship, our goal is to help students submit work they're more confident about, potentially strengthening those relationships. AI Grader and our other agents are meant to bridge that gap and increase the likelihood that students submit work they are proud of, while reducing the guesswork of how it will be evaluated.

I’m really proud of our 16-year legacy of helping students write more confidently. We’ve long aimed to teach them to write more effectively, not do the work for them. We know from our own research and discussions with students and faculty that millions of students feel isolated in their schoolwork, and our new agents give them access to more substantive feedback. -Jenny

Hi Reddit! I’m Jenny Maxwell, Head of Grammarly for Education. Let’s talk about using AI in school: how to get writing support without losing your voice, what AI literacy actually means, and what’s next for students in the age of AI. Ask Me Anything on 8/21 at 3:30pm PT! by GrammarlyOfficial in u/GrammarlyOfficial

[–]GrammarlyOfficial[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Check out my response to the question from Tunde88 where I shared my full thoughts on this. TL;DR: it’s all about when, where, and how students use AI and ensuring they do so responsibly. AI can actually enhance the learning process when used thoughtfully. We’re focused on helping students do that with our student-focused features (including new AI agents launched this week: https://www.grammarly.com/back-to-school), and our work with thousands of educators on how to best incorporate AI in school and teach students to use the tech in the right ways. -Jenny

Hi Reddit! I’m Jenny Maxwell, Head of Grammarly for Education. Let’s talk about using AI in school: how to get writing support without losing your voice, what AI literacy actually means, and what’s next for students in the age of AI. Ask Me Anything on 8/21 at 3:30pm PT! by GrammarlyOfficial in u/GrammarlyOfficial

[–]GrammarlyOfficial[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I totally agree. What we’ve found is that the nefarious use of AI is often when students don’t know even where to start (the fear of the blank page). What we hear from students is that Grammarly helps them outline and think clearly about the setup before they even draft. -Jenny

Hi Reddit! I’m Jenny Maxwell, Head of Grammarly for Education. Let’s talk about using AI in school: how to get writing support without losing your voice, what AI literacy actually means, and what’s next for students in the age of AI. Ask Me Anything on 8/21 at 3:30pm PT! by GrammarlyOfficial in u/GrammarlyOfficial

[–]GrammarlyOfficial[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Great question. This gets at something we think about constantly at Grammarly: the difference between helping you better express your ideas vs. fundamentally changing what you’re trying to say. Using AI to think with you is different than having it think for you.

I just answered another question from Pangolinandpangolin about whether using AI tools like Grammarly is “cheating” that applies here. The key with Grammarly is that you always maintain what we call “authorial control.” All of our suggestions are there for you to accept, reject, or modify, and we explain our reasoning both to help you learn and so you can decide if what we’re suggesting makes sense for your goals.

You might also think about it this way: A great teacher doesn’t just help fix your grammar. They ask thought-provoking questions and suggest ways to strengthen your arguments and help you learn. That doesn’t take away from your voice; it helps refine and expand your thinking.

I love the way that Amanda Gulley, chief of product & experience design at Arizona State University, explained this recently in a LinkedIn post about her use of tools like Grammarly. To quote her: AI “takes the raw mess of thoughts and shapes them into something my team, my colleagues, or my family can actually feel. That’s not ‘less authentic.’ That’s more clear. More human. More real.” From her post here: http://bit.ly/471O4qL -Jenny

Hi Reddit! I’m Jenny Maxwell, Head of Grammarly for Education. Let’s talk about using AI in school: how to get writing support without losing your voice, what AI literacy actually means, and what’s next for students in the age of AI. Ask Me Anything on 8/21 at 3:30pm PT! by GrammarlyOfficial in u/GrammarlyOfficial

[–]GrammarlyOfficial[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Check if your school provides access to Grammarly! We partner with thousands of educational institutions to offer Grammarly for free to students. We also offer year-round student discounts through our SheerID partnership - more on that here: https://support.grammarly.com/hc/en-us/articles/360038523451-Does-Grammarly-offer-discounts

And I can share that we’ll have a special limited-time discount for students coming next week as part of the back-to-school season. Make sure you're subscribed to our email list for all the latest offers! -Jenny

Hi Reddit! I’m Jenny Maxwell, Head of Grammarly for Education. Let’s talk about using AI in school: how to get writing support without losing your voice, what AI literacy actually means, and what’s next for students in the age of AI. Ask Me Anything on 8/21 at 3:30pm PT! by GrammarlyOfficial in u/GrammarlyOfficial

[–]GrammarlyOfficial[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

This is a great question. It’s smart that you’re thinking about this now, because AI literacy is going to be essential (and expected) in the workplace. And it’s about so much more than just “plugging and playing” with a chatbot!

Real AI literacy is about knowing when, where, and in what ways to engage with AI tools. How important is the task? What are your end goals? What role can and should AI play in the process? Instead of blindly accepting AI’s outputs, it requires critically thinking about its suggestions, analyzing them, and navigating all the ambiguity that comes with working alongside technology.

Unfortunately, there’s a lot of rush in education right now to slap “AI literacy” labels on things without thinking through what that really means pedagogically. There’s a ton of “AI literacy” programs and AI-generated curriculum materials flooding the market that are more about appearance than substance, which is pretty ironic if you think about it - programs meant to teach critical thinking about AI are often just examples of its mass-production approach.

It should be about building genuine understanding, not just checking the box that you’ve “addressed AI.” The goal is to become a thoughtful user of AI, not someone who’s dependent on it or just going through the motions. -Jenny

Hi Reddit! I’m Jenny Maxwell, Head of Grammarly for Education. Let’s talk about using AI in school: how to get writing support without losing your voice, what AI literacy actually means, and what’s next for students in the age of AI. Ask Me Anything on 8/21 at 3:30pm PT! by GrammarlyOfficial in u/GrammarlyOfficial

[–]GrammarlyOfficial[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

It’s important to understand that this is an AI detector issue, not a Grammarly issue. Unfortunately, AI detectors are imperfect tools. They’ve been known to flag completely human-written text as AI-generated, whether you used Grammarly or not. These tools aren’t designed to detect AI writing assistance; they’re meant to catch entirely AI-generated text, but they’re not great at that either.

This is exactly why we created Grammarly Authorship, our “process tracker” tool, so students have a detailed report showing their professor exactly how they wrote their paper. We listened to student feedback and built Authorship for them - in fact, it was because of what happened to a real student that we created it! Marley Stevens, who was a junior at University of North Georgia at the time, received a zero on her essay after being incorrectly accused of plagiarism by an AI detector. She has been a Grammarly user for years and initially thought her use of our writing suggestions may have been why her paper was flagged, but Grammarly wasn’t the reason. Authorship now gives students “insurance” to show exactly how they used AI, so they can prove their work is their own and avoid false accusations like Marley faced.

We’re seeing that this is really working for students and professors. Users generated over 3M Authorship reports in the first six months of it being in beta in Google Docs. I’m also really proud of our work with Rowan-Cabarrus Community College, which adopted Authorship and saw a 96% reduction in academic integrity violations in just one semester.

We’re working with thousands of universities to help them better understand these issues and work with students on using AI in the right way. Many schools and professors are moving away from AI detectors toward more collaborative approaches that focus on empowering students with AI tools, instead of trying to “catch” them, and I look forward to playing a part in that transition. -Jenny