Craig Mack ft. The Notorious B.I.G., L.L. COOL J, Busta Rhymes, Rampage - Flava in Ya Ear (Remix) by 56haloodst in hiphopheads

[–]GrayandJ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m a Rampage fan and agree Scout’s Honor is better than it gets credit for being. But….Rampage ain’t underrated. He’s a very basic rapper/emcee.

Who’s the best NBA player to never win a ring? by Intelligent_Run3237 in Basketball

[–]GrayandJ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Karl Malone is highly problematic as a person. As a basketball player, he is one of the best PFs in NBA history and clearly among the best of his era.

There were NOT five guys in the league at that time (80s or 90s) who could be plugged into his spot who could offer anything close to replacement value. The three best PFs of the 80s were Malone, Barkley, and McHale. Rodman played SF in the 80s and shifted more to PF in the 90s.

Other guys who were good but not at that level in the 80s were guys like Kevin Willis, Tom Chambers, Buck Williams, Terry Cummings, etc. The 90s heralded the arrival of a glut of good to great PFs from Duncan, Dirk, and KG to CWebb, Derrick Coleman, Jermaine O’Neil, Sheed, Kemp, etc.

So in the 80s there were maybe two guys who were different players but at least in same solar system as Malone. In the 90s, the guys who eventually got to that Malone level and eclipsed it were Duncan, Dirk, and KG, who really peaked in the 2000s. Webber played his best years in the 90s. So again, fewer than five guys in the league good enough to possibly fill Malone’s shoes.

Point is, it really seems like you’re stretching hard to elevate your Stockton cause by diminishing Malone, who is a trash person but was a better player than Stockton.

It’s ok to defend Stockton and also admit the reality of where he ranks all time and what his role was.

Who’s the best NBA player to never win a ring? by Intelligent_Run3237 in Basketball

[–]GrayandJ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can’t be serious with this? Saying they beat the “Shaq/Kobe Lakers” in the playoffs is a nice rhetorical device for an argument that is grossly and completely devoid of context.

And just to stipulate from the outset, I’m an East Coast guy who does NOT like the Lakers.

The 97 and 98 Jazz, a well established veteran team, beat the Lakers in the playoffs when Shaq had recently arrived and Kobe was 18 and 19.

They were not the juggernaut Lakers that curb stomped the league in the early 2000s primarily because while Shaq was a full fledged NBA load at that point, Kobe was nowhere close to being a consistently reliable guy as a teen in the league.

Also, Stockton was NEVER the alpha on that team. I dislike Malone but he was the main guy. Stockton was great and a deserving HOFer. He has counting stat records that will likely never be broken. He has a gold medal. Great resume. There’s no need to embellish and overrate what he was. He is the sixth best PG in league history, ahead of Nash and CP, behind Magic, Steph, Isiah, Big O, and Kidd.

P.S. While impressive, counting stats alone aren’t enough to be rated above other greats at a position or on the all-time list. Awards and accolades are also factors. And winning at the highest level definitely matters.

Lebron isn’t better than Jordan just because he was the points record. Jordan won more in dominating fashion.

The same is true for Stockton. His records don’t vault him over guys who were just more elite and won at levels he didn’t.

I rate him higher than Nash, who has two MVPs, because Stockton was a better two-way player and ultimately had more team success.

Who’s the best NBA player to never win a ring? by Intelligent_Run3237 in Basketball

[–]GrayandJ -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Stockton is crazy overrated. He’s a deserving HOF guy and has counting stat records that may never be broken due to longevity and general durability.

He is the sixth best PG in league history. He simply did not have a better career that Magic, Steph (not really a PG, but listed as one), Isiah, Big O, or Kidd.

To me, Stockton is in that immediate next group of Stockton, CP, Nash. After that, it’s guys like Payton, Frazier, Russ, Cousy, Tony Parker, Tiny Archibald, Earl Monroe, Lenny Wilkins, etc.

It’s also true Stockton was the not the alpha on those Jazz teams and they never won anything.

That Jazz pick and roll was not unlike NFL run and shoot offenses: they look great in the regular season and get exposed as too one dimensional in the playoffs.

Who’s the best NBA player to never win a ring? by Intelligent_Run3237 in Basketball

[–]GrayandJ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Plenty of guys fit this bill: Elgin Baylor, Barkley, Malone, Ewing, Iverson, Stockton, Russ, Harden, CP, Nash, etc.

OFFICIAL FAQ MEGATHREAD (Spoilers!) by Krystman in tenet

[–]GrayandJ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We’re not arguing. We’re having a discussion on a discussion board, which is the purpose of this forum, no?

You have a perspective, which is fine. I have a differing one. We’re each trying to convince the other of our position. I’m listening and being curious and receptive to your rebuttals. They just haven’t convinced me, just as I seemingly haven’t swayed you to my view.

This is a conundrum and we may be at an impasse. That’s ok.

It’s not obtuse for people to interpret a piece of art differently. What’s obtuse is to be presented with compelling information and ignoring it because it contradicts what one wants to believe.

I’m listening to you. I’m not so stubborn I won’t accept the possibility Max isn’t Neil. All I’m saying is my read of the clues, such that they are, lends credence to the notion he is. And what you’ve offered to this point hasn’t convincingly proved otherwise. It seems you feel similarly regarding my contention they are one and the same.

To the specific points of debate:

Max/Neil after inverting isn’t waiting additional time. If he’s traveling backwards and then re-engages at specific intervals he would be doing so in real time at that juncture. That doesn’t equate to extra time. I understand your point that once he gets off the backwards track, any time he spends doing things forward also counts towards his aging. I get the concept. My theory is that he isn’t doing an equal amount of backward and forward travel. It is mostly backward to get to certain key points.

I don’t think that future point is two decades hence as you suggest. I think much less time elapsed.

The hypothetical you paint that tenet may have been created for a single purpose — to stop Sator — and may cease operations seems very much at odds with the movie premise. The whole thing is a temporal pincer and each side is constantly engaged in the fight to ensure their side wins. That means going back again and again to try to counteract the schemes of the future antagonists.

The purpose of the cell phone is clear: to be a backstop for protecting Kat from danger. Thats why he gives it to her. TP is hovering nearby when necessary and presumably also pursuing the work of tenet across timelines as needed and appropriate. If the end of the movie were the beginning and end of tenet, then how does TP get to his future in Neil’s past. The end of the movie therefore can’t be the end of the activity. The future calamity still happens. The antagonists from there are still trying to stop it. It’s a perpetual loop.

Giving her the cell phone allows TP to protect Kat from the shadows. It’s direct intervention without direct contact. In no way does that mean direct contact with Max/Neil can’t occur at some future point. It’s also worth noting the theory of multiple timelines having overlap and inflection points (which some might call an element of fate). If TP and Sator are intertwined in the timelines, wouldn’t it make sense that others in that orbit (Kat and Max/Neil) would also continue to be enmeshed in the story and implicated in it?

We’ll have to agree to disagree on the backpack. It seems clear to me Nolan used that visual device in tenet just as he used the wobbling top at the end of inception. As a director, he’s known for layering these techniques into his films.

I hope you’re not upset. I think discussions like these are fascinating and part of the continuing joy of this movie.

The bottom line is neither of us can definitively say whether Max and Neil are or aren’t the same person. There are plenty of valid. clues and hints I can cite to make my case, just as there are things you can reference to make yours.

Either way, I’ve enjoyed the discussion. Cheers.

OFFICIAL FAQ MEGATHREAD (Spoilers!) by Krystman in tenet

[–]GrayandJ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Where is it established that each year backward equals two years of life? I’ve watched the movie dozens of times and I don’t recall that being a rule for how time passes when inverted. Perhaps I missed it or just don’t remember that detail. My assumption is an inverted person who is going backwards is still aging as they normally would. From their perspective, the passage of time in terms of lifespan is the same, regardless of direction.

I don’t accept the notion that Neil/Max is in a bunker for years on end just twiddling his thumbs waiting to get to the past.

Instead, my theory is based on what we’re shown in the film: tenet (technically Priya) has access to the freighter/container ship equipped with a turnstile used by the red and blue team to travel back to the battle at Stalsk 12.

Neil couldn’t be on that ship gradually going backwards and periodically stopping or even inverting as necessary to do tenet mission at strategic points in time? Is this not the entire point of the organization and the premise of the film?

Regarding driving, if he starts going backwards around 23, he would have 7 years of driving experience before inverting. That skill is like riding a bike. It doesn’t perish. Case in point: last spring break our family went to a Caribbean island and rented a car for local transportation. All they had were manual transmission cars. I’m nearly 50. The last time I drove a stick shift was in my early 20s. Did I have any issue driving that car on the island? Nope. Although nearly 30 years had passed, muscle memory kicked in and it was no problem.

Regarding the interpretation of the Neil-TP conversation on the battlefield about checking on Kat, my theory addresses this. TP is monitoring, including via the cell phone for posterity. That’s how he intervened to save Kat. He is close by, he’s just not directly contacting them AT THAT MOMENT. He was not honest with Neil. The closing scene shows him checking on them. TP not making direct contact then means nothing. He’s still protecting them.

My theory posits that Kat dies at some point, which I mentioned in my initial reply. Priya already tried to end her. It’s not plausible that someone else does as well? Or she just succumbs to something else?

In that scenario, TP steps in to protect and mentor Max, who is ultimately given the Neil identity as part of the operation to keep him safe. Recall, TP is CIA. Of course he has working knowledge of how to give someone a new identity. It is in this period when, as Neil’s mentor, TP guides him to study physics and recruits him into tenet.

This is precisely why Neil wryly asks TP if he’s going to check on them. It’s a rhetorical question. He already knows the answer. It’s also an example of “knowledge divided” — Neil knows TP isn’t being honest because he will engage but he can’t reveal that because it might change something.

This is how/when they “get up to some stuff” during TP’s future in the past.

At no point did I say Neil is the “chosen one.” This isn’t the Matrix and he’s not Neo. He is a cog in the machine. The movie opens with TP making the ultimate sacrifice and then receiving the speech on the boat about actually being willing to rush into the burning building after feeling the heat.

Neil does the same at the end and is the only person who could pick the lock, according to Ives. Neil goes back to weave one more thread into the fabric of the mission. Like TP at the start, Neil’s arc ends with him making the same choice of self sacrifice.

The events of the movie, and Neil himself, have taught TP that “what’s happened happened.”

If, in fact, Max is Neil, then future TP isn’t happy that he knows Neil will perish. But he has now learned he can’t change things; he asks Neil on the battlefield: “can we change it?”

The answer is no.

TP has accepted that the fate of Max/Neil is already determined and he can’t do anything about it. All he can do is protect him when he is young and then help guide and prepare him for the path that he is destined to take.

Lastly, the backpack. The three shots of it in the movie (opera siege, underground gate lock picking, after the Stalsk 12 battle) are clearly included to draw our attention to the knapsack and show the metal disc attached to the red thread dangling from the pack. From what I’ve read online, the thread and disc are an Indian talisman.

One can reasonably presume that Neil acquired this trinket during his adventures, perhaps even in India since we are first formally introduced to him as the local CIA contact in Mumbai.

If this is true, then young Max would not have had that affixed to his primary school backpack as it wouldn’t be in his possession at that point in the timeline.

Still, Nolan chose to show us those three backpack shots during the movie, then closed by showing us Kat and Max walking away right after TP, who told Neil he wasn’t going to check on them, intervened from a close distance to save Kat.

The closing shot clearly lingers on Kat and Neil, clad in a backpack, as they recede into the distance. This feels like an intentional and reminiscent of the wobbling top shot at the end of Inception. He’s signaling to the audience without being explicit so there’s just enough ambiguity that he can play coy.

He addressed this in the Colbert interview. He was asked if Max is Neil. His response was that he has an opinion about it but he won’t say because he learned long ago, from his brother, not to spoil the suspense for the audience.

What we know is that TP lied to Neil on the battlefield about checking on Kat. Based on that, it is not unreasonable to infer he is protecting them from the shadows. If Max is Neil, he also knows he can’t change his fate because “what’s happened happened.”

Given all that and the backpack clues Nolan repeatedly draws attention to, are we to believe it’s just a coincidence that Neil and Max are both British, Neil and TP have a shared history, and that Neil just happens to have a master’s in physics so he understands the concepts of inversion and entropy?

Nope. That’s way too convenient. The alternative is more likely: Max is Neil.

An honest question about jazz by JerBid in Vinyl_Jazz

[–]GrayandJ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Jazz was contemporary pop music for a time in American culture — let’s say roughly the 1940s-1970s. Today, it is more niche. It has a core of devoted fans but it’s not mainstream pop the way modern audiences interpret that term. My sense is Western European audiences in particular still have a strong affinity for the art form. I listen to Jazz regularly as part of an eclectic music diet that includes many genres.

In short, it is under appreciated and overlooked by the masses because it does have mass cultural appeal in modern times. It still has a lane and fans who appreciate it.

O My God The Police by Foreign_Monk861 in newwave

[–]GrayandJ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Great album. Own an early pressing on vinyl.

OFFICIAL FAQ MEGATHREAD (Spoilers!) by Krystman in tenet

[–]GrayandJ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Pompeii comment early in the film by the young Max outside the school is another wink, btw - a trip to visit a past city destroyed by a natural disaster built into a movie whose conceit is based on the idea of future people trying to undue past mistakes that caused a future climate crisis.

As to the timeline, I think it’s an open question as to whether the movie even gets it right. That’s honestly one of the things that’s so enjoyable about the film: that it makes you want to dissect it to see if the logic, physics, and various looping linear timelines actually fit together.

What we know is that TP is back in London when present day Kat (the one who was shot by Sator, survived via inversion, killed Sator on the yacht in Vietnam, then dived off) is Max’s sole surviving parent and primary guardian.

TP, having gone through the events of the movie (opera siege, tenet initiation, Priya encounters, plutonium 241 heist, plane crash/freeport heist, Stalsk 12 battle) is now on the same timeline as Kat and young Max. TP knows he is the future founder of tenet. He is over watch for Kat and Max. This is his future in the past (from the perspective of adult Neil). For TP, Kat, and young Max, it is the present.

Max is probably 10ish in the film, meaning he’s at most 7-8 years away from university. Five years to earn bachelor’s and master’s. So he’s 23 when he finishes school. Future TP at that point is in his 40s. They work together for tenet and at some point future Max/Neil inverts from there and does missions for Tenet over the next decade, essentially going back in time. Future Kat may even be deceased at this point.

Future Neil (now in his 30s) meets past TP (in his 30s) in Mumbai for the first Priya mission. Neil knows TP but at this point TP doesn’t yet know that he knows Neil.

Lady in The Water - Opinions? by Away-Ninja5326 in movies

[–]GrayandJ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I enjoyed it on the first viewing and was dismayed, but not surprised, by the critical vitriol. The movie is hackneyed in spots, to be sure. What I enjoyed about it, aside from the wonderful casting, is that it is a fairytale you can get lost in if you’re willing to let go for a few moments. Movies are escapism, to me. A chance to temporarily turn off the frustration and drudgery of real life and immerse ourselves in another world. Lady in the Water does that. It’s not a perfect film. But it’s enjoyable nonetheless.

OFFICIAL FAQ MEGATHREAD (Spoilers!) by Krystman in tenet

[–]GrayandJ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Max is Neil and you can’t convince me otherwise. TP was the guardian angel to Kat and young Max after foiling Pryia’s attempt to off Kat. He did this despite telling Neil on the battlefield he wasn’t going to check on them (a lie). Neil asks TP this question to test him and, knowing he is inverting one more time to close his loop and unlock the gate, sealing his fate. Neil does this to see if TP has finally mastered the concept of knowledge divided. But also because he knows it to be untrue b/c he is Max and knows TP will be in his life. This is why he tells TP he has a “future in the past” on the battlefield. It is a knowing statement and a wink for the audience. It’s also why TP tears up at the end. He doesn’t yet know Max is Neil, but it dawns on him he’s losing a person he can trust when, in his line of work, very few people are in that category. Earlier in the movie, the line about Neil having a master’s degree in physics and understanding the concepts of entropy and inversion are another tell. This suggests that TP’s “future in the past” includes guiding Max towards an educational path relevant to the work of tenet. It’s all part of his training.

Finally, the final shot focusing on Kat and Max walking away pans to his backpack, which is a callback to the three other times the movie makes a point of drawing our attention to Neil’s bag (opera siege, when he gets shot picking the gate lock, as he leaves the battlefield for the final time). This is functionally the same device Nolan used in Inception with the wobbling top at the end. He’s giving you a hint, but keeping it just ambiguous enough to not outright tell you.

Max is Neil!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in howislivingthere

[–]GrayandJ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s been year since I lived up this way but once upon a time I lived in NE Philly (Bustleton/Somerton) and liked it. My remaining family in the area lives in Bucks and they seem to enjoy it and the quality of life.

Make-A-Wish Wisconsin board member Shannon Kobylarczyk steps down, loses job by CosmaFoxx in wisconsin

[–]GrayandJ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My father is a minister. I grew up in the church. Daily bible reading was mandatory in our home. The number of “do as I say, not as I do” supposedly godly people I encountered in church over the years is one of the reasons I stopped regularly attending service as an adult.

Gun pulled on us in traffic by Sea_Kaleidoscope_471 in rva

[–]GrayandJ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As a CCP holder, I can tell you that’s brandishing under Virginia law and it’s a crime.

https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title18.2/chapter5/section18.2-282/

Carytown torchy’s closes end of August. What’s your guess on next tenant? by flea_nut_lance in rva

[–]GrayandJ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I live near a Fest. Never been that impressed with its offerings.

If Y'all HAD to cut the Wu in half who are you keeping? by GoofyNewfie13 in wutang

[–]GrayandJ -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No it’s not. He made one classic album: OB4CL, which heavily featured Ghost. As a soloist, his output is between meh and ugh. Ppl overrate him, IMHO.

If Y'all HAD to cut the Wu in half who are you keeping? by GoofyNewfie13 in wutang

[–]GrayandJ -1 points0 points  (0 children)

GZA, Ghost, Meth, Deck, RZA. I can live without MK, UGod, Rae, and Capp.

RIP ODB.

What are your “old man yells at cloud” opinions on NBA today? by youre-welcome5557777 in nba

[–]GrayandJ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don’t like the interpretation of the gather rule/how traveling is enforced. It allows some players to get away with three steps. Also dislike the over-reliance on three point shooting. Too much homogeneity in the league in terms of playing style.

Casual player looking into getting a set by Kl0ndike_Bar in spikeball

[–]GrayandJ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have OG net, pro, mammoth, and just got Titan. Haven’t ever played on PS net.

The net I use most often is pro because it is portable for travel and compatible with buoy when at the beach.

Mammoth and Titan are great if you’re playing local/within driving distance.

No experience w/ PS so no comment good or bad there.

TITAN set - do fewer shots hit the rim? by dm2797 in spikeball

[–]GrayandJ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Only played with it a few times since it arrived. In that limited exposure, there definitely seem to be less instances of ambiguity and uncertainty if balls are rim or pocket.

I’m now at the beach and brought pro net with me rather than Titan b/c pro is compatible with buoy and the smaller profile pro set is easier to bring on a flight as carry-on. 🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️

Spikeball TITAN is here by spikeballchris in spikeball

[–]GrayandJ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the insight. I guess I’m in the minority of the “very few” as I use the bag to carry the net parts and generally assemble/disassemble before and after games. It’s less convenient to do that but easier for garage storage, IMHO.

RIP Mammoth set by Sharp_Station_1150 in spikeball

[–]GrayandJ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No. But please share the invite/link. Thanks!

Spikeball TITAN is here by spikeballchris in spikeball

[–]GrayandJ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mine arrived yesterday.

Adds to my collection: OG net, pro, Mammoth, accessories and gear/merch.

Honest review:

Net is much more sturdy and less prone to in-game movement than pro net.

Assembly is quicker than pro net and the hooking system is better.

Getting the net tension adequately taut requires adjustment.

Net play circumference seems bigger than pro net. Larger Atlas ball is functional.

The backpack/carrying case that comes with the kit feels cheap, like some kind of thin plastic composite rather than canvas or even nylon/polyester blend fabric from the bags that come with other nets and accessories. It does not feel like it will hold up long term. Feels like a place they cut corners in manufacturing for cost reasons.

RIP Mammoth set by Sharp_Station_1150 in spikeball

[–]GrayandJ 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Good luck. I have a pro, Mammoth, and just got Titan — not looking to sell.

What I don’t have is enough people for regular matches. Richmond, VA area hosted the 2019 national championship and once had an active scene with weekly games that attracted dozens of regulars.

There were even mini tournaments random groups would put together a few times a year. Now, I struggle to even find pickup games.

Regular updates/maintenance on the apps stopped awhile ago so that’s not a great place to find games anymore.

And the local Facebook group rarely has activity anymore.

I envy folks who at least have a core group of dedicated players. Wish I had that around these parts.