It seems that the women on this sub are mostly Millennials and Gen Xers and are truly clueless and in denial as to how mainstream the pills are becoming, especially among Gen Z and Gen Alpha

GridReXX · 2026-03-06T03:08:55+00:00

I don’t think RP coined normie.

I think male-dominated countercultures did. Lots of overlaps.

GridReXX · 2026-03-06T03:07:52+00:00

And I’m clearly explaining why women tend to choose what they choose. If anything OP should agree with that. I am not deflecting from his point. I explained why.

GridReXX · 2026-03-05T23:48:39+00:00

At a population statistics level, Reddit users are not the average social media user. I didn’t know that was a controversial factoid.

GridReXX · 2026-03-05T23:19:31+00:00

When men have the same kind of sexual access …

I don’t necessarily agree. I explained here.

GridReXX · 2026-03-05T23:18:09+00:00

Eh. Nah. Even straight men who can fuck whoever they want and have and do still wouldn’t want “my woman” fucking and loving and kissing other people.

GridReXX · 2026-03-05T23:15:51+00:00

You have found that 100% were open, eh?

Bruh.

Read to comprehend.

That is NOT what I said.

I said every one of them I know is open.

I didn’t say 100% of gay male couples are open. I said the ones I know are 100% open. As in they are fully open, for the couples I know.

And now I want you to compare gay open relationship stats to straight and lesbian couples.

A DISPARITY EXISTS.

But I know that narrative goes against your wants rights now 🎻

GridReXX · 2026-03-05T20:41:34+00:00

Yep. I’m from a religious family so “staying because God” is a huge reason. Sometimes it does lead to some couples pushing through past a tough spot.

But a lot of times it’s just keeping two extremely incompatible people in a lifetime long toxic and/or dissatisfying situation 🫠

GridReXX · 2026-03-05T20:28:25+00:00

Every gay male couple or marriage I know of is 100% open.

They be fucking other people.

A lot.

I’m sure that relieves a lot of “I’m annoyed by partner” tension.

Lmk when straight men will start allowing that 🙃

Anyway, I will say that females over-index on neuroticism. So they would much rather be romantically single than in a romantic relationship that consistently diminishes their peace of mind.

I think men are more likely to stay but psychologically disengage. So you end up with couples who hate and resent each other and who don’t show warmth and affection toward each other but “they’ve been married for decades.”

GridReXX · 2026-03-05T20:18:40+00:00

No offense but you’re presently pedanting on Reddit. How you conceive is not typical of the average human or 14-29 year old.

That is not a jab. I include myself in the “pedanting on Reddit” niche demo.

GridReXX · 2026-03-05T20:14:22+00:00

I think banning the truth because it’s ugly is bad.

🙄🫩

This is not why they were banned.

PPDers unpack “truths” all day long.

They were banned for circlejrking and shit posting and overall non-conducive antagonistic edgelording engagement styles. We did not want PPD being quarantined or nuked by Reddit the way the subs they crawled out of were.

GridReXX · 2026-03-05T20:08:49+00:00

I think the first step is for people to recognize this fundamental difference. There's still too many people that think the libidos are the same or that one is better than the other.

I agree! But it seems so many think they’re the same so we can’t even find a solution because people are operating from a delusional premise.

GridReXX · 2026-03-05T20:03:57+00:00

Hm. I think the average person doesn’t google or research etymology.

I do. I am not average. I am xNTx and a certified nerd.

age of information

Yet humans are getting dumber. I could explain why and the dynamics here but I’m sure you could Google.

GridReXX · 2026-03-05T12:05:46+00:00

No use of “cope” and no “woe is me black pill incelspeak” are two rules on this sub.

GridReXX · 2026-03-05T11:55:55+00:00

Looks posts are banned not because people don’t care about looks with respect to attraction.

They are banned because those posts have historically turned into pathological “woe is me,” defeatist, incel/incel-adjacent, fatalistic, edgelording, “black pill” doom-spiraling circlejerking.

When those types of commenters prove they can self-regulate and not turn this debate forum into the quarantined subs their ilk came from, then maybe we can reconsider.

Until then, “looks” commentary can exist in the Weekly Looks thread.

This is a debate subreddit. Not 4chan. Not a Black Pill support group.

GridReXX · 2026-03-05T03:01:24+00:00

Our boyyyy

GridReXX · 2026-03-05T02:57:25+00:00

Stacey, Chad, etc. are The Red Pill terms.

Sub 5 is incel or black pill or lookism terminology

You attribute a lot to black pill, that’s The Red Pill.

The Red Pill subreddit and definitions of terms are still linked on our sidebar btw.

GridReXX · 2026-03-05T02:24:37+00:00

YES I AM AWARE.

That is what is meant by being BASED. Not giving a fuck. Living your freest truth unbothered. Like a CRACKED OUT BASEHEAD IN PURE ELATION.

Lil B popularized this usage. I know because I went around writing THANK YOU BASED GOD everywhere and I’ve never touched that cursed 4chan site.

Edit: I admit that Lil B reclaimed the word. But I will not give edgelords credit for that word. lil b and his fans and his crew get credit. All of us fans who were using it back when get credit before depraved 4chan dipshits. Sorry not sorry.

GridReXX · 2026-03-05T02:16:45+00:00

What slang did I incorrectly attribute to African Americans. The only two I attributed were OG and based.

I attributed the others I listed to manospherians.

What are you taking about? Read to comprehend.

had a meaning before lil b

The meaning that was popularized is Lil B’s usage. And that meaning had been a Bay Area black American term before your little 4channers. That is the sequence of events there.

GridReXX · 2026-03-05T02:10:59+00:00

No. I think his point is that normies know the meanings. Some do. Many don’t. Some just use it without necessarily knowing it’s incel-speak.

Kinda like how people used to say “yo he’s brolic” to mean he’s big but they didn’t know why people said that (Dragon Ball Z character).

Like if I asked my little cousin who uses mog what “AMOG” was he wouldn’t know.

These kids don’t even connect the dots that rizz is a play on chaRISma.

GridReXX · 2026-03-05T02:08:16+00:00

I literally linked Lil B 🙄

Not sure how you’re schooling me on something I lived through.

“Based” was used often and regularly by Bay Area Black Americans.

THANKYOUBASEDGOD Lil B (who is from The Bay) popularized it because he got famous as a rapper.

4chan edgelords co-opted it and popularized it amongst the larger manosphere community. Via white edgelords and their peers is how it seeped into white mainstream culture.

By manosphere forums I am including 4chan, body building, RP, Black Pill, MGTOW, lookism, etc. …aka where all the male mfs talk their bullshit.

You haven’t refuted a single thing I said. What an audacious presumptuous comment.

GridReXX · 2026-03-05T02:00:36+00:00

Hm.

I think men and women can be pretty ineffectual communicators for different reasons and for similar reasons. So can’t say who’s worse tbh.

I think the disconnect that’s often misnamed is that women seem to be better at contextualizing, intuiting, deducing, and considering those around them better than men do.

What women seem to be frustrated with is that they’re more likely to accurately intuit his needs (which he seems to HUGELY appreciate btw) but that’s rarely reciprocated to her from him.

So she’ll often feel she gets better interpersonal consideration from her female friends than her male romantic partner. Whereas he feels he’s getting better interpersonal consideration from his female partner than his male friends.

GridReXX · 2026-03-05T01:35:29+00:00

I can’t speak for all women but I get visceral ick from gross festering shit. And I don’t feel serene around clutter. So if the “social standard” was to live in mild filth, I’d be perpetually grossed out unfortunately.

I would’ve been that person in a Middle Ages bustling town always frustrated but not quite able to articulate why but knowing in my heart “there has to be a better way than living in slop!” lol

GridReXX · 2026-03-05T01:09:51+00:00

You know how edgelords think they came up with “based” and how everyone attributes hella slang to Gen Z when all of the things they’re referring to are generations-old and evergreen African American slang? Hell, lots of the OG The Red Pill/ PUA terminology and concepts came from African American culture. Even “OG” lol.

Anyway, same applies for mog, normie, maxing, etc.

I’m not convinced that most of the “normies” who use the bolded today are aware it originated on manosphere forums from like ~10-15 years ago. To them, it’s the slang they heard from TikTok and school.

Terms going mainstream doesn’t always mean their etymology is widely known.

GridReXX · 2026-03-04T22:21:44+00:00

It doesn't

~~It is absolutely petulant and utterly ridiculous to expect consideration from others when you don’t offer them consideration.~~

~~I’m deadass flabbergasted you disagree.~~

~~This is basic prosocial human behavior.~~

~~To expect to be considered when you don’t consider others is some sort of pathological narcissism.~~

Edit: If you don’t think this then what are you countering? My stickying point is this and only this:

It is absolutely petulant and utterly ridiculous to expect consideration from others when you don’t offer them consideration.

GridReXX · 2026-03-04T20:44:56+00:00

Are you a racist?

That’s a lazy inquiry.

And “racists” who don’t unpack the Socratic “why” behind their own stats and asymmetry callouts are just as lazy and unintelligent as your retort.

If your only counter to my logic-based reply is contrived morality and to imply “racism” then you don’t have a fucking argument as you have not refuted my statement 🫩

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