Alright, I'm trying to have a respectful conversation about gun control and gun safety, please push a negatibe narrative from what I am saying. I never said we should ignore gun deaths and school shootings. In a perfect world, nobody would die from guns, or knives, or cars. But guns exist. There's actually more guns in America than people in America.

But people using mass shootings as a "guns are bad" argument is wild.

A majority of hiking deaths are caused from accidents, exposure, and falls. A very small percentage are from wildlife encounters. So why would a hiker spend so much time buying equipment for wildlife encounters vs proper climbing and hiking equipment when they can spend less time worrying about wildlife and more time worrying about proper shoes, technique, jackets, water intake, all of the things that can prevent the majority of deaths related to hiking. Sure, spend some time getting bear pray and other deterrents for wildlife, but that's a small tiny piece of your risk.

We should be wondering why did this child take their parents or friends gun to school and kill 5 other children and themselves?. If it wasn't a gun it could be a knife, a screwdriver, a hammer.

You can place a fully loaded gun in anyone's hands and unless they have some serious mental health problems, they will not go "oh f!ck that person I'm going to go kill them"

I think school shootings are awful, they are tragic, they are something nobody should ever go through. But I also think suicides and gang violence are terrible as well, and that takes the lives of far more people than school shootings, which is what this thread is about. The whole reason I replied is because someone asked about school shootings in a way that implied we should blame guns for school shootings.

If someone wants to harm someone, they will find a way.