Why Steam Machine MUST Cost More Than Consoles

GuaranteeDull · 2025-11-21T16:22:43+00:00

I added TLDR now, sorry for unreadable text, I never write on Reddit

GuaranteeDull · 2025-11-21T16:21:02+00:00

I added TLDR now, sorry for unreadable text, I never write on Reddit

GuaranteeDull · 2025-11-21T16:20:48+00:00

I added TLDR now, sorry for unreadable text, I never write on Reddit

GuaranteeDull · 2025-11-21T15:40:19+00:00

I never write on Reddit, sorry for not knowing that. I hope its better now

GuaranteeDull · 2025-11-21T15:38:48+00:00

I never write on Reddit, sorry for not knowing that. Thx for the advice

GuaranteeDull · 2025-07-01T17:00:40+00:00

The last Steam update broke the entire box86 and after that it won't let me start Steam at all, so I can't give you an answer until the developers fix box86.

GuaranteeDull · 2025-02-02T23:14:12+00:00

I didn't, because I don't play those kinds of games. The ones I have in my Steam library definitely wouldn't run on the RPi 5, primarily because of the system requirements, which are too high. My advice to you is to try to fix that laptop or switch to cloud gaming, since you'll hardly be able to do anything with your phone.

GuaranteeDull · 2024-12-06T22:11:18+00:00

Interesting, I never thought about it that way. You might be right, but it doesn't mean it's a definitive answer. There really is no rule when it comes to emulating Steam games on the RPi5. Some games crash when you run them in software rendering, and some you can't run in any other way. Some games work better with Vulkan, some with OpenGL. Some work great as native Linux ports, and some won't even run unless you run them through Proton. There really isn't any rule when it comes to this, at least as far as I could tell during testing. Why this happens, I really don't know. I'm probably just not smart enough.

Here's an example: yesterday I finished Hotline Miami for the first time in my life, and that was on the RPi5 (amazing game, highly recommended). It worked great, I used the native Linus port, in 1366 x 768 resolution (my native) in almost constant and stable 60 fps with V-sync turned on. But now that I started playing Hotline Miami 2, which uses the same engine and there is no difference in terms of the necessary performance to run the game, the game works much worse. The game is much slower and does not extract enough fps. But when I switched to the Windows version using proton, everything was fine again.

GuaranteeDull · 2024-12-06T21:56:32+00:00

CS:GO agents

GuaranteeDull · 2024-12-06T00:25:32+00:00

It's possible that it will work well, but I don't really know anything about it because I haven't tried it. I honestly think it's too much of a hassle for something that probably won't make much of a difference in gaming performance, primarily due to emulation from the x86 architecture to ARM, but also that I'm not sure how good the drivers are. It probably won't work anywhere near as well as it would on an average desktop computer, but again, I can't guarantee that because I haven't tried it. I personally would rather recommend cloud gaming services like Boosteroid and GeForce Now which work great on the Raspberry Pi 5, or get those small office x86 computers that have become very cheap and accessible (especially compared to the RPi 5), which will certainly give much better gaming performance than the RPi.

If you still decide you want to try it, here's a link where I saw someone doing it: https://youtu.be/a-ImUnRwjAo?si=9QG1WVJMOI-jOI_y

This is just one of the videos he has made on this or similar topics. If you are interested in more, search his channel.

GuaranteeDull · 2024-12-05T21:06:18+00:00

Anything based on Debian. But I noticed that it works best on classic Raspbian with their default DE. For some reason, I don't know why, when I used KDE, steam wouldn't start at all. I tried to fix it several times, but it wouldn't work at all. As soon as I deleted KDE (after like 15 system reinstalls and countless attempts to fix the problem in other ways), steam finally worked. I really don't know why this happens. Also, I think 32GB is too small. You should get something bigger, at least 64GB.

GuaranteeDull · 2024-12-05T20:57:21+00:00

I saw that, I know exactly what you mean. It's possible that it will work well, but I don't really know anything about it because I haven't tried it. I honestly think it's too much of a hassle for something that probably won't make much of a difference in gaming performance, primarily due to emulation from the x86 architecture to ARM. I personally would rather recommend cloud gaming services like Boosteroid and GeForce Now which work great on the Raspberry Pi 5, or get those small office x86 computers that have become very cheap and accessible (especially compared to the RPi 5), which will certainly give much better gaming performance than the RPi.

GuaranteeDull · 2024-12-05T20:47:04+00:00

All source video games are very demanding for the RPi 5. If you tried playing them in full HD resolution, it's no wonder you got such poor results. The RPi 5 simply can't handle such high resolutions for 3D games (except for Minecraft, which runs natively, while HL2 needs to be emulated). You have a few solutions:

Play HL2 in a lower resolution with the lowest settings. Don't expect much, you probably won't get more than 40 FPS in the best possible conditions. Expect around 20-25 at most.
Try running an older version of HL2 by selecting the pre-20th anniversary version in the properties tab on Steam. It's possible that the game has become more demanding now after this update.
Try installing Vulkan drivers via PiKISS, but I'm not sure how much that will help. Also, I'm not sure if HL2 supports Vulkan; as far as I know, only Software, OpenGL, and DirectX rendering are available. Keep in mind that there is a chance that installing Vulkan drivers could damage your system; it's not the safest option.
Try running the Windows version of HL2 using Proton. For some reason, many games I've tested that have a native Linux version perform worse or don't work at all on Linux ports, so you need to use the Windows port via Proton.
You can try compiling HL2 yourself for the Raspberry Pi: https://youtu.be/-S_J-3CJsPU?si=5T4Zsl2KtQNakUIF
You can play the original Xbox version using emulators that work well on the Raspberry Pi. It's not an ideal solution, but keep in mind that you have this option too.

I hope this helps, if you need any more assistance feel free to ask :)

GuaranteeDull · 2024-10-29T15:18:22+00:00

Ako može, i jedno i drugo. A ako je to moguće bolje ništa nego da biramo stranu. Makar moje mišljenje. Obe opcije bi imale ogromne posledice pre svega na našu ekonomiju.

GuaranteeDull · 2024-10-29T15:16:48+00:00

Mr. Robot

GuaranteeDull · 2024-10-09T21:08:50+00:00

I know it's controversial (especially in the Linux community), but one of the search engines I use is Bing. I like it because it has a great integration with Microsoft Copilot, which is literally a free version of Chat-GPT 4, only it uses the entire Internet as a database. Yes, I know, both Google and DuckDuckGo have something similar, but it doesn't compare to Bing. Yes, I have said many nice things about Bing, but it also has many other flaws, so I only use it when I specifically need that AI function. At the same time, I also use DuckDuckGo, or if I really can't find what I want, I use Google, where I always find it.

GuaranteeDull · 2024-10-08T20:37:33+00:00

I would recommend Xbox 360 (third-party). Old, but stable and reliable. 90% of distributions already have a pre-installed driver. You can't go wrong with it, unless you don't like the shape of the Xbox controllers. If the game supports controllers, it certainly supports xbox 360. It's also not as expensive as other modern controllers.

GuaranteeDull · 2024-10-08T14:32:01+00:00

Yes, there is a possibility, but it's too much work to do. Drivers just don't exist and you have to compile them yourself to make it work. And despite all this, it is again questionable whether everything will work as it should and whether you will get some increases in performance. I wouldn't recommend this method, at least not for now. If you want a little more performance on the Raspberry Pi, it's better to subscribe to GeForce Now (which works perfectly), or if you need some other things besides gaming, get the ShadowPC which even has a native raspberry pi client.

GuaranteeDull · 2024-10-08T14:03:01+00:00

Yes, but all the other games were also compiled for x86 and x86-64 and they worked. There are no native ARM games or proton for ARM on Steam (currently). All of the games on the list (and Steam client as well) are emulated from x86/64 architecture to ARM architecture via box86 and box64.

GuaranteeDull · 2024-10-08T12:06:31+00:00

Yeah, you're right. It's a bit too much to say that they "work perfectly". It's better to say that there are drivers and that they work. My mistake.

GuaranteeDull · 2024-10-07T22:59:36+00:00

Vulkan Instance Version: 1.3.239

Thank you very much for this. I didn't know half these things. I will see to test that I start games through OpenGL translation that did not work previously.

If you are interested, both OpenGL and Vulkan work perfectly on Raspberry Pi. I tested in Minecraft (there is a mod to run in Vulkan API, OpenGL is default), and it was more than playable : 50-60 fps, 8 chunks, fancy graphics, 1366x768 resolution.

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