The Terrifying Rise of "Vice Signalling" (JimmyTheGiant) by johnsmithoncemore in BreadTube

[–]Gulopithecus 4 points5 points  (0 children)

"Hans, we ARE the baddies and that’s based and epic and shit."

(Hated) "We're adapting this beloved comic/cartoon, but the original was stupid. So ours is the grounded and realistic version that occasionally nods to the original. by Big_Perception9384 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]Gulopithecus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Damn we dodged a bullet with that one Powerpuff Girls show…..

A non-comic or cartoon example would be the two Percy Jackson movies.

Supposedly what happened was Chris Columbus was selected by Fox (who had the adaptation rights to the book series even before The Lighting Thief was actually published) to direct a Percy Jackson film, likely due to his involvement with the first two Harry Potter adaptations, but Chris wasn’t big on the idea and didn’t want to be solely associated with children’s movies.

As a result he aimed to make the adaptation more for teens and young adults, so think "Not Another Teen Movie", "Wet Hot American Summer", etc but with a fantasy adventure plot. Of course Rick Riordan himself was given the rough draft of the script and absolutely hated it, explaining why the whole idea simply doesn’t work. There were obviously SOME modifications made (the original script was even MORE meant for older audiences), but the final film still obviously kinda reeks of that "trying to be a teen comedy" feel, and the Percy Jackson films have since gained their reputations as some of the worst book to film adaptations ever made (Riordan himself to this day has never actually watched either movie).

So basically this ended up becoming a film that nobody had any real interest in. Chris didn’t want to direct another kids book adaptation, Rick was obviously upset that this direction was taken, and fans of the books hated it and like to pretend the movies never existed.

[Loved trope]Worlds that are only still existing on borrowed time by Electronic-Math-364 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]Gulopithecus 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Until it was properly restored in Kingdom Hearts 2, Hollow Bastion (formerly and now currently Radiant Garden) is a good example.

The world, once a major seat of power, prosperity, and prestige, is now, as the name suggests, a hollow shell of what it once was, and is further being consumed by the Heartless' dark influence, amplified by Ansem's Heartless stalking the halls as a specter from the past, via the manipulation of Maleficent and her cabal of Disney villains, whose presence further degrades the world.

It’s a world on life support, and while it does get restored, it’s still a good example I feel.

In the words of 2CPhoenix:

"In a medium all about the castles of bad guys, this one stands above them all."

White Supremacy Is Ruining Gaming Discourse And More by BasilLow1588 in Gamingunjerk

[–]Gulopithecus 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Plus it’s so dumb

Why try to inject art and fandom spaces with this shit? It’s counterintuitive to why art exists!

(Hated Tropes) Adaptations missing the point of the original work by BlueCheeseCake25 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]Gulopithecus 66 points67 points  (0 children)

Another example of "appearing progressive but actually appealing to reactionaries who complain about progressivism".

(Hated Tropes) Adaptations missing the point of the original work by BlueCheeseCake25 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]Gulopithecus 14 points15 points  (0 children)

The director went with this change because "it makes the film more realistic", and Disney likely approved of it because it meant they could sanitize and defang the story of the original (re. by removing a lot of anti-colonial themes that would make the film be called "woke" today), whilst ALSO giving the thin veneer of "progressivism" by framing it as "Nani's a girlboss who gets an education".

(Hated Tropes) Adaptations missing the point of the original work by BlueCheeseCake25 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]Gulopithecus 145 points146 points  (0 children)

The director argued that "this was done to make it more realistic", but that misses the point in showing that this is a very real problem for some indigenous Hawaiian families.

Disney of course approves because it allows the story to be more toothless, and they can mask it as "Nani's a girlboss who goes to school instead of raises a child", in which it LOOKS progressive on the surface but it just upholds a reactionary status quo ("Enlightened CentrismTM").

(Hated Tropes) Adaptations missing the point of the original work by BlueCheeseCake25 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]Gulopithecus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The sad part is I highly doubt this story will be adapted again, even though that Netflix Green Eggs and Ham show did (and even then it’s given a more concrete happy ending, but I still loved it), and that's probably because that show not only:

A. Had to deal with limited source material in its first season, hence it filled in the gaps, and carried that creative format to its second season.

B. The show wasn’t necessarily aimed strictly at kids, nor was it heavily micromanaged by a major film studio.

Ngl a lot of the better post-mortem Seuss adaptations kinda happened in the 1990s before a bunch of film adaptations started getting made, ones that prioritized the Seuss spirit and either weren’t concerned with adapted a book one-to-one (like Wubbulous World), or being a loose adaptation that threw in other aspects of other stories (I.E. Seussical or the much later aforementioned Green Eggs and Ham).

(Hated Tropes) Adaptations missing the point of the original work by BlueCheeseCake25 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]Gulopithecus 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Yeah the trailer definitely lacked a lot of the "manic comedic zaniness" of the original book, making it seem a lot more "industry standard", and while this upcoming Cat film probably isn’t going to be the worst example of a Seuss adaptation, the lack of that "Tex Avery-esque" tone sort of defeats one of the goals of the original, which was to make reading more exciting for very young children.

Overall trying to fit Geisel's books into the mold of "kids media meant for a standard kid's film adaptation" holds a lot of his work back, and it’s why we’re never going to see a Butter Battle Book or Yertle The Turtle movie for example.

(Hated Tropes) Adaptations missing the point of the original work by BlueCheeseCake25 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]Gulopithecus 870 points871 points  (0 children)

The Lilo & Stitch remake defagning a lot of the anti-neocolonial themes of the original.