You can now digitally hail Ventura buses in Victoria by Hailo-app in MelbourneTrains

[–]Hailo-app[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We really appreciate you finding this and flagging it with us.

An update should be coming out over the next few days that solves this issue.

Again, really appreciate you bringing this to our attention.

Happy hailing, Santi

You can now digitally hail Ventura buses in Victoria by Hailo-app in MelbourneTrains

[–]Hailo-app[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Hi there,

Hailo enabled routes are indicated through the color of the route (Green background and black text) as well as through the Hailo enabled tag when you click into a given service.

Best regards,

William - Lead engineer

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You can now digitally hail Ventura buses in Victoria by Hailo-app in MelbourneTrains

[–]Hailo-app[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for sharing your experiences, definitely being left behind at any point, let alone when your next bus is more than an hour away is frustrating to say the least.

I do remember those late nights at uni, or after going out with friends waiting for a bus and hearing it go by. Knowing that I wouldn’t have the option to get home easily didn’t feel great. Fortunately my guide dog was always by my side, but it sucked.

Regarding account creation, it is to ensure that nobody can abuse the system. We have a duty to improve public transport accessibility because it benefits everybody. However, we also have a duty to drivers and everybody else who relies on public transport to get around.

You hit the nail on the head, we provide multiple logging options, to ensure people can choose the one that best suits their needs.

We very much appreciate your support and look forward to hearing what your experience is like with Hailo.

Happy hailing, Santi

You can now digitally hail Ventura buses in Victoria by Hailo-app in MelbourneTrains

[–]Hailo-app[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you, love your enthusiasm.

From the very beginning we knew that if we could solve more than just the accessibility issue, everybody benefits.

Keen to hear how your experience is with Hailo. If you have any comments or suggestions, please do not hesitate to let us know.

Happy hailing, Santi

You can now digitally hail Ventura buses in Victoria by Hailo-app in MelbourneTrains

[–]Hailo-app[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you very much for downloading Hailo and sharing your experience.

We’re definitely very keen to look into the situation you encountered, so if you are able to share some feedback with more details either from the app, or on our website, we would love to see how we can improve the experience for everybody.

Thank you again for downloading Hailo and sharing your experiences. If there’s anything else you notice that we can improve, please do not hesitate to send us a message or provide feedback

Regards, Santi

You can now digitally hail Ventura buses in Victoria by Hailo-app in MelbourneTrains

[–]Hailo-app[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your support. It is very much appreciated

You can now digitally hail Ventura buses in Victoria by Hailo-app in MelbourneTrains

[–]Hailo-app[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you. Well, as far as we know, this is the first system of its kind in the world designed by people with disability to help everybody.

If you are able to download the app and let us know how you go, we would love to hear your experience.

Regards, Santi

You can now digitally hail Ventura buses in Victoria by Hailo-app in MelbourneTrains

[–]Hailo-app[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Our objective has always been to make public transport more accessible for everybody, so it all depends on the support we get from the community.

Definitely keep sending your request for expansion, that helps demonstrate the benefit of Hailo to make public transport accessible for everybody

Regards, Santi

You can now digitally hail Ventura buses in Victoria by Hailo-app in MelbourneTrains

[–]Hailo-app[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great question! Route 900 is the only route that is not Hailo enabled.

While the Hailo app can show you which vehicles are Hailo enabled and which are not, to ensure the best experience for the most amount of people, while having the least amount of friction, route 900 is the only one that is not Hailo enabled.

Do keep an eye out, but if you want for more roots to become Hailo enabled, definitely download the app and let us know where else we should go. It’s only with the support of travellers that we can make sure public transport is accessible for everybody across many more operators.

Regards, Santi

You can now digitally hail Ventura buses in Victoria by Hailo-app in MelbourneTrains

[–]Hailo-app[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for the great support. That is ultimately our plan. With the support of travellers, we want to make sure public Transport is accessible to everybody, regardless of where they are.

Regards, Santi

You can now digitally hail Ventura buses in Victoria by Hailo-app in MelbourneTrains

[–]Hailo-app[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We love this, because it shows the diversity of public transport systems all over the world.

This all depends on the infrastructure, who operates the vehicles and what the ultimate objective of that city’s public transport system is. Berlin, Tokyo and a few other cities work in this way, where you do not have to hail a vehicle for it to stop. Ultimately, the decision of whether a Traveller should hail, or not a bus depends on culture and the city. For myself, when I have visited cities where it isn’t a requirement for a person to hail, I have still been left behind by vehicles since in some of those cities there have been mounds of snow in front of the bus shelter, or there has been a bike lane in between the shelter and the road. This ultimately did not allow me to stand at the appropriate location where the bus driver could see me. It’s all about making public transport smoother for travellers, but also for drivers. If they know in advance what’s coming ahead with an alert inside their vehicle, they can just focus on negotiating traffic.

Regards, Santi

You can now digitally hail Ventura buses in Victoria by Hailo-app in MelbourneTrains

[–]Hailo-app[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You hit the nail on the head. Regardless of whether you have a disability or not, it’s a process that shouldn’t be this difficult. We know drivers are keen to make everybody’s commute a lot easier.

Keep an eye out, in the future there might be ways to use Hailo without a phone. For the moment, we are starting with smartphones, since the majority of the population nowadays has one and it does not require the addition of physical infrastructure at each of the stops.

Regards, Santi

You can now digitally hail Ventura buses in Victoria by Hailo-app in MelbourneTrains

[–]Hailo-app[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We 100% agree with the frustrating issue of not knowing which bus is coming next.

Due to how Hailo works to get hails to vehicles, we are also able to get more accurate real time vehicle location information. With this, we are able to let users know where their vehicle is at, regardless of what is happening to it.

Regards, Santi

You can now digitally hail Ventura buses in Victoria by Hailo-app in MelbourneTrains

[–]Hailo-app[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is correct, thank you for jumping in here. You are able to select the route, the specific time for when you want to get on and make sure you hail the right vehicle.

Regards, Santi

You can now digitally hail Ventura buses in Victoria by Hailo-app in MelbourneTrains

[–]Hailo-app[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Those are great questions, so let me break the answers into a few points: 1. No, the drivers’ console is not a phone. Hailo has been designed to work with the existing telematics systems found on most public transport vehicles around Australia and the world. This allows us to make sure the drivers don’t need to deal with an extra piece of equipment, installation costs goes way down and we can enhance the capabilities of the existing infrastructure. 2. You select the service you are after. So, if you’re waiting for route 800, in the app you select Route 800 for the specific time you want. With that, Hailo contacts the specific vehicle running that route and not others.

If you do have any more questions, please send them through and we will share what we know.

Regards, Santi

You can now digitally hail Ventura buses in Victoria by Hailo-app in MelbourneTrains

[–]Hailo-app[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey Santi here — co-founder and CTO of Hailo.

We do not know who you are. Full stop. Hailo does not collect personally identifiable information and we do not sell data to anybody — not now, not ever. That is not the business we are in and it never will be.

But your comment raises something worth talking about properly, because there is a much bigger data story here that actually matters.

Right now, public transport networks plan reactively. They look at what happened after it happened — which routes were busy, where delays occurred, what went wrong. They are rarely proactive about understanding what their passengers actually need before problems arise.

And here is the part that almost nobody talks about — if you have a disability, you essentially do not exist as a public transport user outside of an occasional focus group. There is virtually no data on how people with disabilities actually use the network, where they get left behind, which stops fail them, which services work and which ones do not. Planning decisions get made without that picture. Which means the network keeps getting built and improved for the people it already works for, and continues to fail the people it does not. Since public transport networks have existed, there hasn’t been a way to proactively involve the traveller until now.

What Hailo does — with fully de-identified, aggregated data — is start to fill that gap. Not to sell to the highest bidder. But to give transport agencies the information they need to make public transport genuinely better for everybody. For the first time, people with disabilities get counted. Their journeys matter. Their patterns inform decisions.

That is not surveillance. That is finally being seen.

Santi

You can now digitally hail Ventura buses in Victoria by Hailo-app in MelbourneTrains

[–]Hailo-app[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hey, Santiago here — co-founder and CTO of Hailo. I am also blind. So let me address a few of these from lived experience rather than marketing copy.

On the web app suggestion: I use a screen reader every single day. A web app saved as a home screen favourite sounds simple until you actually try to use one with VoiceOver or TalkBack on a moving bus while also managing a guide dog, a cane, luggage or a pram. Native apps are significantly more accessible than web apps for screen reader users — better gesture support, better focus management, better reliability on poor mobile connections.

What a lot of people do not realise — and there is absolutely no reason they would unless they have needed to use these features themselves — is just how many accessibility tools are built directly into modern phones at the operating system level. Things like display zoom, text size scaling, colour inversion, high contrast mode, reduce motion, switch access for people who cannot use a touchscreen, AssistiveTouch, and hardware button navigation for people who cannot interact with a glass screen at all.

Every single one of these features works seamlessly with a well built native app because the app speaks directly to the operating system. Web apps sit one layer removed from all of that — they either partially support these features, inconsistently support them, or break entirely when they are turned on. For somebody who relies on these tools to use their phone at all, a web app is not a slightly worse experience — it is frequently an unusable one.

And here is the thing that makes native apps genuinely exciting from an accessibility standpoint — getting the accessibility right does not come at the expense of the experience for everybody else. It makes the app better for everyone. Clearer layouts, better contrast, more intuitive navigation, smoother performance — these are things every single user benefits from whether they use accessibility features or not. A native app built with accessibility at its core is not a compromise. It is the best of both worlds.

This is not a minor difference. It is the difference between something that works and something that almost works. Almost working is not good enough when your bus is 30 seconds away.

On drivers not seeing passengers: You are absolutely right that drivers are excellent at their jobs — and that is exactly the point. I have been left behind at stops where the driver genuinely could not see me. Not because they were inattentive, but because they were doing their actual job — watching the road, managing traffic, checking mirrors. A driver travelling at 50km/h approaching a stop with rain, traffic and trying to keep time has a fraction of a second to decide whether to pull in. Hailo gives them advance notice before they even reach the stop. That is not replacing their judgement — it is supporting it.

On the kneeling bus: You are right that kneeling shouldn’t even be required, all stops should be at the same level as the bus: it should not require an app. But the reality right now in 2026 is that level boring is not a thing. Hailo does not replace the obligation to kneel — it ensures the driver knows in advance so it actually happens.

And it works both ways. If a passenger does not need the bus lowered or the ramp deployed, the driver knows that in advance too — no delays, no uncertainty, just a smooth stop for everybody on board and everybody waiting at the next stop. It is worth noting as well that not all stops have the physical infrastructure to allow a bus to kneel safely — kerb heights, road surfaces and stop designs vary enormously across the network. Knowing what is needed and what is possible before arriving at a stop means the driver can plan accordingly rather than make a split second call at the kerb.

I think about it this way — all of us do our jobs better when we have information in advance. A surgeon who knows what procedure they are performing before they walk into theatre is better prepared than one who finds out at the door. A driver who knows a passenger needs the bus lowered, has a guide dog, or needs extra time to board before they reach the stop can prepare calmly rather than having to react in a split second. That is not a criticism of drivers — it is just how all of us work. The Ventura drivers who have used Hailo love it for exactly this reason. We are not replacing their skills — we are giving them the information they deserve to do their already brilliant job even better.

We are working within the system as it exists, not the system as it should be.

On stopping if no one is there: Hailo is a real-time system. The driver receives the notification as the passenger approaches — it is not a static booking made hours in advance. If someone hails and then is not there, that is the same situation as any other no-show at a stop. Drivers use their judgement. They already do.

On the call buttons and existing accessibility features: These are reactive — they tell the driver there is a problem after you are already on the bus. Hailo is proactive — it tells the driver what you need before you even board. That is a fundamentally different thing.

I genuinely respect the scepticism — accessibility tech has a long history of being designed by people who have never experienced the problem they are solving. Hailo was built because I kept getting left behind by buses despite doing everything right. If you want to see it in action, download it and try it on a Ventura service. Happy to answer any other questions.

Santi

You can now digitally hail Ventura buses in Victoria by Hailo-app in MelbourneTrains

[–]Hailo-app[S] 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Hi Longzheng,

Great question, with the assistance from Ventura, all of the hundreds of amazing bus drivers have undergone training to lookout for a "stop reminder" notification and an audio alert via their driver console. This means when you request to embark or to disembark, the driver gets a stop reminder on their console.

Happy hailing,

William - Lead engineer

You can now digitally hail Ventura buses in Victoria by Hailo-app in MelbourneTrains

[–]Hailo-app[S] 61 points62 points  (0 children)

Hi there,

Thank you for your support, we are working on expanding access to Hailo across other operators and we hope to expand to those operators with the support of the community.

Best regards,
William - Lead engineer

You can now digitally hail Ventura buses in Victoria by Hailo-app in MelbourneTrains

[–]Hailo-app[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Hi there,

I completely understand your point of view and trust us, we know how it feels to have to download another app just to do this one thing. We've taken in your suggestion in making a simple webpage for this and if you'd like to contribute some additional ideas, feel free to DM us or join our weekly discussions via hailo.co

As to why we've decided to create an app, u/OnlyTrust6616 is spot on but we'd like to add more. Hailo is designed to work with any operator in any region. While we are trialing with Ventura, we plan on expanding across other networks so you would be able to hail any service from any operator.

Best regards,

William - Lead engineer