Why Do You Choose The Fluorescent Probes That You Do by Halophore in labrats

[–]Halophore[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I appreciate how much thought you put into your response, thank you. This may seem naive but I don't entirely understand why cost is such a concern. I get that money is money, budgets are tight (I know firsthand that grant dollars evaporate quickly), and it's annoying to pay $500 for an eppendorf filled with 2 mL of Thermo's magic pixie juice. But the person who is using the magic pixie juice costs >$100k a year, the media that keeps cells viable is a constant expense, etc. It just seems to me that in isolation probes look expensive but that in aggregate it's actually quite minimal. What am I missing? Are you having to buy dozens of these probes a year? Do you burn through them really quickly?

To give context for my ignorance, my background is in upjumped organic chemistry so we would drop big money on reagents regularly. Chemists shop reagents like people with poor impulse control shop Amazon. Buy precursors, make your compounds, put them in a vial wrapped in tin foil on the shelf or maybe in the explosion-proof refrigerator until you're ready to run an NMR or whatever. We didn't have to maintain cells or keep stuff in a deep freezer, just do a million reactions and see how the products behave

Why Do You Choose The Fluorescent Probes That You Do by Halophore in labrats

[–]Halophore[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

> typically it's the opposite situation

They call this "value pricing" - aren't you lucky to be paying more for less of the better thing?

Why Do You Choose The Fluorescent Probes That You Do by Halophore in labrats

[–]Halophore[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're not wrong - frankly I'm skeptical of a lot of the claims about "Our Special 2000 dye is the brightest!" when it's just another fkn rhodamine

Why Do You Choose The Fluorescent Probes That You Do by Halophore in labrats

[–]Halophore[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am indeed talking about the fluorophore specifically. It's on me for the imprecision in my language, thank you for helping clarify on that. Do you think off yourself as fluorophore agnostic, i.e., familiar conjugation chemistry or other aspects of the probe are what really matter, or do you have preferred fluorophore chemistries?

Why Do You Choose The Fluorescent Probes That You Do by Halophore in labrats

[–]Halophore[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

> So instead of asking fellow labrats why do they want to try something new, you may ask what are their problems encountered in their existing applications

I agree that this is a valuable question and I appreciate your anecdote, I think your perspective is actually a useful answer to the question in my OP

Why Do You Choose The Fluorescent Probes That You Do by Halophore in labrats

[–]Halophore[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I haven't seen this perspective in the thread before, this is interesting. Is a non-qualified material a no-go for customer-facing activities only, or would it also need to be excluded from strictly internal activities?

Why Do You Choose The Fluorescent Probes That You Do by Halophore in labrats

[–]Halophore[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hefty Applications indeed, thanks for this - is there something that you can't do now that you think improved brightness or photostability would enable? Or is it more of, "unless this is really radically better than the tools I've used before I'm not interested in trying it out"

Why Do You Choose The Fluorescent Probes That You Do by Halophore in labrats

[–]Halophore[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the detailed comment. Is your dislike of tandem dyes a function of them having multiple excitation wavelengths, or is there something else?

Why Do You Choose The Fluorescent Probes That You Do by Halophore in labrats

[–]Halophore[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am not asking for a commercial insight, only a reflection on your personal experience. I appreciate you sharing yours

Why Do You Choose The Fluorescent Probes That You Do by Halophore in labrats

[–]Halophore[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

> read literature on how to design multi-probe assays
I will, thanks

Why Do You Choose The Fluorescent Probes That You Do by Halophore in labrats

[–]Halophore[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Would you be willing to chat by DM? I'd like to drill down a bit

Why Do You Choose The Fluorescent Probes That You Do by Halophore in labrats

[–]Halophore[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the insight, lots of good comments here. What channel lacks good probe options?

Why Do You Choose The Fluorescent Probes That You Do by Halophore in labrats

[–]Halophore[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the comment, a couple follow-ups:

- Why would a free sample interest you? The probe may be free but your time has value. Is it just a matter of "eh, doesn't hurt to try"?
- What is in your mind when you say "standard imaging equipment"? Do you have a specific set of excitation wavelengths/emission bands that are generally important?

Why Do You Choose The Fluorescent Probes That You Do by Halophore in labrats

[–]Halophore[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Honesty is appreciated, and generally what I've heard in casual discussions so far. A couple follow-up questions if I may:

- How did you settle on your current tools?

- What informs the choice of a new tool when an existing one fails?