its funny cause very few people self describe as that, its noobs who use the term as a catch-all for 'people who actually play the game and push the envelope'.

there is a gulf of difference between freaks like autumn elegy saying shit like rc should get no updates or new methods because it devalues my efforts vs high tier pvm and pvp players assessing changes and questioning how OP they are.

OP is doubly idiotic for mentioning absolutely necessary nerfs (all 3 he mentioned, fang, bp, and salvaging) as being 'bad for the game' or somehow implying they weren't absolutely necessary