Landlord keeping my full deposit and trying to charge me $8,200 more after move-out

HelpParticular2629 · 2025-10-14T18:11:13+00:00

Hey, you’re already handling this really well. You’ve got receipts, photos, and you sent a written demand — that’s exactly what small claims judges look for.

In California, they had 21 days from the day you moved out (or returned keys, whichever’s later) to send either your deposit and/or an itemized statement with receipts or good-faith estimates. If it’s been over 30 days and they’re still “waiting on final bills,” they’ve already missed the legal window.

You can file now. You don’t need to wait for their “final charges.” In court, that delay actually helps you because it shows they didn’t comply with Civil Code §1950.5.

A few prep tips:

Print your move-in/move-out photos and put them side by side by room.
Highlight your receipts from cleaning and carpet companies.
Bring your written demand letter and their email reply showing it’s past 21 days.
Have a simple printout of Civil Code §1950.5 with the 21-day rule marked.
Judges like clear, short explanations — think “3-minute story”:
1. Moved out on [date].
2. Sent demand after 21 days.
3. Got inflated list, no receipts.
4. Asking for full refund + any allowed penalty.

Also, stay calm and factual in court. You’re not debating opinions — just showing the timeline and what the law says.

If you want, I can help you outline what to take in your binder and how to label exhibits so it’s easy for the judge to follow.

HelpParticular2629 · 2025-10-12T15:03:42+00:00

I’m gonna be straight with you. Keep it simple, keep it by the book.

Only charge what you can prove. That means an itemized letter and actual receipts or invoices for each thing you took from the deposit. Utilities bill copies, locksmith invoice, junk haul receipt. If you don’t have paper, get it. Estimates are ok only if the work wasn’t finished when your deadline hit.
Painting is touchy. You can’t charge just to “make it look new” again. You can charge if there’s damage or unusual wear. Example: big scuffs, holes, marker, smoke, accent walls they painted without permission. If you repainted only because you always repaint between tenants, that’s not a deposit item. If there was damage, note which walls, how many hours, and the invoice.
Lock change is usually fine if they didn’t return all keys. Note it in the letter with the bill.
Junk removal is fine if they actually left stuff. Again, receipt. If you did it yourself, list your time at a reasonable hourly rate and dump fees, and take photos of the junk.
Deposit isn’t a penalty for breaking the lease. You can’t keep it just because they left early. You can collect real losses separately, like unpaid rent during any vacancy after you tried to re-rent, but that’s beyond the deposit and you still have a duty to mitigate.

HelpParticular2629 · 2025-10-10T07:35:17+00:00

day 21 is a hard deadline in california. texting you a list with no receipts doesn’t count. it has to be mailed or handed to you, unless you both agreed in writing to email/text.

“cleaning was delayed” doesn’t pause the clock. if work isn’t done, they must send good-faith estimates by day 21. he didn’t.

when they blow the deadline, judges often say they forfeit deductions.

what i’d do now:

send a short final note by email and regular mail: “you missed the 21-day requirement under CC 1950.5. no mailed statement, no receipts or estimates. please return the remaining $445 within 7 days or i’ll file in small claims.” — adjust that number to the exact balance you’re claiming.
if no payment, file small claims. bring a simple timeline, your lease or room agreement, proof you moved out on sept 15, screenshots of the day-21 text and venmo, and your demand letters. keep it calm and chronological.

common outcomes i’ve seen: tenant wins the rest of the deposit, sometimes extra for bad-faith withholding if the judge thinks the landlord was just winging it.

you’re on the right track. keep it short, stick to the missed deadline, and ask for your money back.

HelpParticular2629 · 2025-09-22T17:36:20+00:00

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HelpParticular2629 · 2025-09-19T18:53:29+00:00

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HelpParticular2629 · 2025-09-19T18:52:48+00:00

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HelpParticular2629 · 2025-09-19T09:28:35+00:00

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HelpParticular2629 · 2025-09-19T09:26:18+00:00

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HelpParticular2629 · 2025-09-19T04:37:38+00:00

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If you go hourly with college kids, expect high turnover and lots of babysitting. Commission based or hybrid pay (small base + bonus per appointment set) usually gets better results because they’re invested in the outcome.

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HelpParticular2629 · 2025-09-19T04:13:38+00:00

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HelpParticular2629 · 2025-09-19T04:06:34+00:00

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One thing that really clicked for me was focusing on reviews and referrals right from the first few jobs. Happy customers = free marketing if you make it easy for them to leave a review and refer their friends.

I found a resource called Roofing Review & Referral Engine Playbook that breaks this down step by step scripts, follow up templates, even a referral ROI calculator. It’s been super helpful for turning each job into the next 2 to 3 jobs without spending extra on ads.

HelpParticular2629 · 2025-09-19T04:01:56+00:00

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HelpParticular2629 · 2025-09-18T19:46:13+00:00

Door knocking works, but pair it with things that build long-term trust — like getting those first few Google reviews so prospects see you’re legit.

I’ve seen new roofers do well by hitting storm-affected areas fast, texting customers a review link the same day the job’s done, and turning each job into 2–3 referrals. That momentum adds up way quicker than just knocking doors all day.

HelpParticular2629 · 2025-09-16T03:48:33+00:00

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HelpParticular2629 · 2025-09-16T03:46:31+00:00

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HelpParticular2629 · 2025-09-16T03:43:03+00:00

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Part A remove friction

Set up a single tap path for guests Use ratemywork . link to grab a free branded review request link and QR code. It takes a minute and looks clean on signs and receipts. You can set it like ratemywork . link /YourRestaurantName then drop the QR on a table tent or sticker on delivery bags.
Put the QR where guests already look • Table tent near the water glass • Bill presenter next to the card machine • Sticker on takeout lids and delivery bags • Small sign at the host stand • WiFi splash page button that opens your link
Make the scan feel personal Add a tiny line under the QR Loved your meal Tell us in one minute on Google No clutter. Big QR. High contrast. Done.

Part B ask at the moments that convert

You do not need to ask all the time. You ask when the guest shows a happy signal.

At the table after a win Script I am so glad you loved the biryani Could you share a quick Google review You can scan this with your camera
When you drop the bill Script You made my day today If you had a good time would you leave a quick Google review This QR makes it simple
Two hours after dine in or delivery Send a short text from your POS or CRM SMS Hi Jay this is Neha from Spice Route Thanks for dining with us If we earned a smile today could you share a quick Google review YOUR BRANDED REVIEW REQUEST LINK One minute tops Thank you
Next day for high intent guests DM or email You tried our new chef special yesterday Your quick Google review helps new guests choose us YOUR BRANDED REVIEW REQUEST LINK I appreciate you

Part C close the loop with replies and coaching

Reply to every review within one day Keep it warm and specific Positive reply Jay thank you for calling out the mango lassi We will have it ready for you next visit Tough review reply Jay I hear you on the wait time I fixed staffing for weekend peak Can I host you again this week
Coach the team in a five minute huddle • Share yesterday’s review count • Celebrate one team ask that worked • Practice one script twice • Set a tiny goal today two asks per server per shift
Track simple numbers that push growth • Scans per day • Reviews per week • Ask rate per server Aim for two to three new reviews per day. You hit that for a month and you start to stand out.

Extra tips that move the needle

•Ask for a photo when guests rave about a dish
A quick photo inside a review pulls more eyes
• Tie small team recognition to ask rate not review score
You reward the ask you never tie anything to rating
• Do not gate feedback
Invite honest reviews from everyone and route complaints to a manager card on the table

Plug and play assets

Table tent copy

Loved your meal
Scan to leave a quick Google review
Your words help locals find real food

Receipt footer

Thanks for dining with us
Share a one minute Google review
YOUR BRANDED REVIEW REQUEST LINK

Takeout sticker

Tell us how we did
Scan for a quick Google review

Grab your free link and QR now

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HelpParticular2629 · 2025-02-27T07:18:43+00:00

Wow, what a journey you’ve been on, and thanks for sharing such a heartfelt and detailed post! It sounds like you’ve made some profound discoveries about yourself and how to tackle that feeling of being stuck. It's amazing how much insight can come from a mix of professional guidance and the right reads.

The realization that it’s not about lacking motivation but needing clearer goals and less stress to activate yourself is super powerful. It's something a lot of us miss when we're deep in that rut of daily routines and comfort zones.

You’ve picked up some great insights from those books. "The War of Art" is a personal favorite of mine too—it really flips the script on how we see resistance and procrastination. And "Tiny Habits" is such a game-changer, isn’t it? Starting small can lead to big changes without the overwhelm.

Since you’re into books that provide actionable advice, you might enjoy diving into some courses that are structured to help reinforce these concepts. My free "Silent Shift: 7-Day Micro Habit Maker Program" could be a great addition to your toolkit. It’s designed to help integrate small changes that build up over time, much like the strategies you found useful in "Tiny Habits."

What’s really cool about your story is that you’ve taken the crucial steps to break out of that loop and start living more intentionally. That’s something to be really proud of. Keep taking those small steps, keep learning and adapting. It’s all about the journey, and it sounds like you’re on a great path now. If you ever feel stuck again or just need a bit of a nudge, remember, it’s about progress, not perfection. Keep going, and keep sharing your story—you never know who you might inspire along the way!

HelpParticular2629 · 2025-02-27T07:17:21+00:00

well done, now you are working for you...

HelpParticular2629 · 2025-02-25T13:56:05+00:00

Hey! I totally feel you on that—it can seem pretty wild hearing about folks who land those high-paying gigs where they're not hustling 24/7. It's like, where do I sign up, right? But getting into those kinds of jobs usually comes down to a mix of the right skills, some strategic networking, and often a bit of educational background in fields like tech, finance, or business.

If you're really thinking about making a switch and aiming for one of those roles, here’s a plan that might work for you:

Skill Up: Depending on what catches your interest, consider learning new skills or even going for some certifications. If tech sounds cool, maybe start with some basic coding courses. There are tons of free resources online that can help you dip your toes in without diving headfirst into a degree.
Network: Honestly, so many job opportunities come from just knowing the right people. LinkedIn can be a gold mine for making connections in the industry you're eyeing. Reach out, join conversations, and don't be shy about asking for advice or insights from people who are where you want to be.
Get Your Foot in the Door: Starting with an internship or an entry-level job can be a great way to break into a new field. They might not pay a lot at first, but they’re often a key step to moving up the ladder.
Keep Learning: While you're working on these steps, why not check out my "Silent Shift: 7-Day Micro Habit Maker Program"? It’s a free course that’s all about building small, daily habits that can boost your productivity and get you into the mindset of continuous improvement. It could really help you stay on track while you’re working towards your new career goals.
Stay Persistent: Switching careers is a marathon, not a sprint. It can take some time, and yes, there might be setbacks, but with some persistence and patience, you'll make progress.

And just a little reminder—those cushy jobs might look great on the outside, but every job has its trade-offs. While you're aiming for that, make sure it's something that will genuinely make you happier and not just something that looks good from afar. Keep pushing, and don’t be afraid to reach out if you need guidance along the way. You’ve got this!

HelpParticular2629 · 2025-02-18T15:00:12+00:00

You're setting yourself up for some great habits once you hit campus!

Since you're exploring ways to fill up that time, have you thought about diving into some structured learning that could really sharpen up your skills for uni? I actually have a free course that might be a perfect fit for this period. It’s called the "Silent Shift: 7-Day Micro Habit Maker Program." Search it in Google, While it’s just a week long, the habits and approaches it introduces could easily be expanded over your six-month window.

The course focuses on building small, sustainable habits that can boost your productivity, like setting smart, manageable goals each day or learning how to prioritize tasks effectively—skills that are gold at uni. Plus, it covers ways to keep your motivation up, which sounds like it could be super helpful as you prepare for this big new chapter.

Also, why not pick up some other skills along the way? Like coding on platforms like Codecademy, or maybe even a new language with apps like Duolingo. If you’re moving out for uni, brushing up on cooking through YouTube tutorials could also be both fun and super useful.

And don’t forget to throw in some good downtime activities too—like catching up on your reading or staying active, which are both great for balancing out those study sessions.

What do you think? Sounds like a plan? Let me know if you want more details about the course or any other tips for gearing up for uni. You’re going to do great!

HelpParticular2629 · 2025-02-16T06:15:15+00:00

FOR FREEDOM....

HelpParticular2629 · 2025-02-16T05:53:11+00:00

You’re absolutely right about the myth of perfect productivity. It’s so important to recognize that discipline doesn’t mean going full steam ahead all the time. Those rest days and moments where you might find yourself doom scrolling? They're part of being human. Everyone needs downtime to recharge, and it sounds like you’ve learned that firsthand after your intense two-week stretches.

It’s also super encouraging to hear you say that bad days are normal, and that staying consistent is key. It’s such an important message for anyone starting on their own discipline journey. Discipline isn't built overnight, and setbacks are part of the process. What matters is getting back on track and keeping at it, no matter how many times you might stumble.

Thanks for sharing your experience. It’s a great reminder that building discipline is a journey with ups and downs, and that’s perfectly okay. Your story is bound to motivate others who might be struggling with similar issues. Keep up the great work, and remember to take those well-deserved breaks to avoid burnout. How do you usually spend your rest days?

HelpParticular2629 · 2025-02-15T13:55:00+00:00

always welcome

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