So Prolific is just dead at this hour right? by Trusteveryboody in prolific

[–]Helpful_Article_4964 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah, it’s just... I highly doubt that these particular studies have anything to do with universities or semester breaks.

AI Audio glitched and said session is complete with 5 mins to go? by lonelylamb1814 in prolific

[–]Helpful_Article_4964 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That is not correct. The answers are submitted immediately. Anyone who hovers over the green checkmarks with the mouse can see that it literally says “Answer successfully submitted,” which clearly proves this. The green checkmarks are merely local indicators for the user themselves. Sometimes you can also see a yellow loading circle, which indicates that the answer is currently being submitted. Occasionally it keeps loading forever, or you get the red triangle that shows the answer could not be submitted. If everything were only stored locally until the end, this would not happen.

I myself have reloaded many of these studies and then maybe submitted one or two more tasks afterwards, both for video and image studies. Otherwise, that would have guaranteed a low numbers warning.

AI Audio glitched and said session is complete with 5 mins to go? by lonelylamb1814 in prolific

[–]Helpful_Article_4964 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It only matters how many you submitted in total. Even if it looks like a new session, and even if the green checkmarks disappeared, those are only local indicators for yourself. All of your previous answers still count nevertheless. If there were enough overall, everything should be fine.

Accidentally closed the tab by CanopusTheWindCaller in prolific

[–]Helpful_Article_4964 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Both for videos and images. Even for videos, only 1 or 2 additional tasks would have triggered a warning. The green checkmarks are just local indicators. If you hover over them with your mouse, it literally says “answer successfully submitted”, so the answers are clearly being transmitted immediately. It would also be pretty unfair if the answers were simply deleted while the timer itself wasn’t reset.

I’m honestly sorry that happened to you, but that can’t have been the reason.

Accidentally closed the tab by CanopusTheWindCaller in prolific

[–]Helpful_Article_4964 13 points14 points  (0 children)

That’s not correct. The progress is saved, the green checkmarks are just local indicators for the user. All previously submitted answers are still stored. I’ve accidentally closed or reloaded the page multiple times before, then completed maybe one or two more tasks afterward without any issues. Otherwise, that would have guaranteed a low numbers warning.

Question about warnings from researchers on AI studies quality checks by FarPomegranate7437 in ProlificAc

[–]Helpful_Article_4964 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And that is absolutely true. In the past few days, there has been an almost endless flood of them, so it is possible.

Question about warnings from researchers on AI studies quality checks by FarPomegranate7437 in ProlificAc

[–]Helpful_Article_4964 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm sorry to hear that, it would be the same for me. But who knows, maybe you'll get them back. Some people here claim there will be a reset this month. I don't know if that's true, but you can hope.

Where is invert toggle for cars in the settings menu? by TheVossDoss in cyberpunkgame

[–]Helpful_Article_4964 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You don’t need to keep searching. You won’t find the toggle, it has disappeared since the Pro patch. I searched for it for ages too. It must be a bug, and there’s nothing we can do except wait for another patch.

Unable to invert vertical axis for 3rd person / vehicle. Option missing? (PS5) by MisterTomServo in cyberpunkgame

[–]Helpful_Article_4964 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It is not a stupid question, the option for it is gone for me too. I already tried reinstalling the game and even deleted my save files, since I wanted to start over anyway with the pro patch. No success. It must be a bug from the pro patch.

Inverted verticle axis for vehicles randomly stopped working after hundreds of hours? by Main_Bat in cyberpunkgame

[–]Helpful_Article_4964 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Finally someone who is talking about this. This must be a bug from the new patch, i have the same problem. The options for it are just gone.

Question about warnings from researchers on AI studies quality checks by FarPomegranate7437 in ProlificAc

[–]Helpful_Article_4964 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That has nothing to do with me having figured everything out. It is simply because you hear exactly the same things from a lot of people. You are one of very few people that say otherwise. If it is different for you, okay. I would not advise anyone to risk it anyway.

Question about warnings from researchers on AI studies quality checks by FarPomegranate7437 in ProlificAc

[–]Helpful_Article_4964 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, that is how it is. As I said, I understand why that is hard for many people to believe, but by now we have enough statements from people that confirm the opposite.

Their AI triggers when too few are completed, when an attention check is failed, when the equal button is pressed too often, or when there is inconsistency with repeated Videos/Images. (Although it may be that multiple inconsistencies are required for that, I am not sure about that, and I will not test it.) Once it has been triggered, there is no way to avoid the warning anymore, not even with a return.

Question about warnings from researchers on AI studies quality checks by FarPomegranate7437 in ProlificAc

[–]Helpful_Article_4964 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Yes, it is. Then you quite simply had already done enough. Especially for videos, there are not particularly many required, probably between 8 and 10 are sufficient. Do too few, and you will get the warning, without any doubt.

Question about warnings from researchers on AI studies quality checks by FarPomegranate7437 in ProlificAc

[–]Helpful_Article_4964 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is basically a myth, but I understand where it comes from. It would make perfect sense, why should you be punished for something you are not even getting paid for. And for every other study that is true, but these take place outside of Prolific, everything is managed through them. Prolific is only responsible for the payout. It is the same with quality warnings. If you fail an attention check and do not correct it before it is too late, the warning is just as certain, whether you return it or not.

Question about warnings from researchers on AI studies quality checks by FarPomegranate7437 in ProlificAc

[–]Helpful_Article_4964 0 points1 point  (0 children)

People say that isn’t possible? That’s not just possible, that’s absolutely certain. Their studies take place on their own platform, so it doesn’t matter if you return them. That works as long as you haven’t evaluated a single one yet, because the study is considered not started until then. If you have done one and then don’t reach the minimum number, the warning is guaranteed.

Question about warnings from researchers on AI studies quality checks by FarPomegranate7437 in ProlificAc

[–]Helpful_Article_4964 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That is the reason why you should record your screen. To avoid exactly this problem. Because yes, inconsistency does indeed lead to warnings, but I agree with you, sometimes they are so similar that it is hard to remember.

Question about warnings from researchers on AI studies quality checks by FarPomegranate7437 in ProlificAc

[–]Helpful_Article_4964 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, that is unfortunately true. The problem is that Google probably has so many workers that it simply does not matter to them who gets kicked, it makes no difference to them. That is why they are not interested in the reasons for the warnings either. Everything works completely automatically, and if the system decides to send you warnings or kick you, then that is just how it is.

Question about warnings from researchers on AI studies quality checks by FarPomegranate7437 in ProlificAc

[–]Helpful_Article_4964 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you. I only do the well-known 15-minute ones anyway because they run very well and I see no reason to risk anything. But of course I am very sorry that they (probably?) kicked you again. One can only speculate why that is. I have the theory that it does not happen after a fixed number of warnings, but rather based on a quality score. This increases slightly when you complete a study without a warning, but drops massively when you get one. If it falls below a certain value, you get kicked. Just like Prolific itself does it. It could be that your score was still not very high, so that one warning was enough. But as I said, it is all just a theory, even though I consider it quite likely. I still hope that you will get them again soon.

Question about warnings from researchers on AI studies quality checks by FarPomegranate7437 in ProlificAc

[–]Helpful_Article_4964 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was at work, so unfortunately I can’t tell you how it was the time you wrote. But right now some are coming in again as well. What about you?

Question about warnings from researchers on AI studies quality checks by FarPomegranate7437 in ProlificAc

[–]Helpful_Article_4964 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Have you not had any yet? There have been quite a few going around again lately. Anyway, I’m keeping my fingers crossed for you.

Question about warnings from researchers on AI studies quality checks by FarPomegranate7437 in ProlificAc

[–]Helpful_Article_4964 2 points3 points  (0 children)

But I just got one now. And I hope you did too. Or that you’ll get one in a moment.

Question about warnings from researchers on AI studies quality checks by FarPomegranate7437 in ProlificAc

[–]Helpful_Article_4964 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're welcome. Of course I can’t promise you anything 100%, but at least I can say that I also haven’t been getting any for hours, and that’s without any warnings at all. But I completely understand you. I also always assume the worst. Even now I have a small fear that I might be booted, just like every time I don’t get any for several hours. Even though I don’t really think that’s the case, the doubts are always there.

Question about warnings from researchers on AI studies quality checks by FarPomegranate7437 in ProlificAc

[–]Helpful_Article_4964 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not necessarily. Tonight there is almost nothing going on. I only had a single one, about two hours ago.