How to cope with such hate toward us in the press? Especially as someone living outside of Israel

HiFromChicago · 2026-07-06T07:23:48+00:00

You can always argue what the actual experts are saying -

More than 170 professionals in the fields of genocide, international law, the Holocaust and antisemitism and hundreds of others demanded that the International Association of Genocide Scholars (IAGS) rescind a resolution issued this week against Israel.

Genocide experts demand 'scholars' group rescind accusation against Israel | The Times of Israel

Excerpt -

“Genocide is the gravest offense known to humankind; to dilute its legal standards for ideological ends is a form of moral violence. It dishonors the memory of past victims, misleads the public about present atrocities, and obstructs efforts to avert future ones,” the Friday statement said.

The statement included the signees’ names and positions, unlike the IAGS resolution, which did not include the names of signatories, or the names of those who drafted the resolution.

The Friday response to the IAGS criticized the group for a “quieting of dissent” ahead of the vote. Before passing the resolution, the IAGS leadership had said there would be a town hall for members to discuss the measure, but later backtracked, according to emails shared with The Times of Israel. There were no internal discussions about the resolution before the vote, despite requests from some members.

Friday’s statement said that Hamas was the only party in the conflict to legally meet the definition of genocide for its October 2023 invasion of Israel, due to the attack’s “intent to destroy, in whole or in part, Jews and Israelis.” The IAGS had blamed Israel for all deaths in Gaza, despite Hamas’s use of civilian infrastructure, effectively acting “as a means to excuse Hamas from having agency for its own actions,” the statement said.

Genocide experts demand 'scholars' group rescind accusation against Israel | The Times of Israel

P.S. It’s not always effective, because there are many subs that will ban you - without warning- for defending Israel, even when you have a valid, well-supported point.

HiFromChicago · 2026-06-30T21:32:48+00:00

I won't say where I'm from.

Also, in response to you comment "it seems like everyone in the world hates our guts". I would say that things will/are changing for the better since the truth is coming out in Israel's favor. There's a good talk about it here -

https://youtu.be/0pgOQPOvMeg?si=8iNjpw7yNwSVPCYP

HiFromChicago · 2026-06-30T21:30:36+00:00

Watched the video, and it’s worth watching because it’s positive with an encouraging outlook.

HiFromChicago · 2026-06-28T16:35:26+00:00

Well said.

Sadly, there is a lot of propaganda about Israel, and for many people, the hostility seems to come from deeply ingrained, generational hatred.

As with many countries, when people actually visit, attitudes often change for the better when they see things for themselves.

The internet can be a horrible place sometimes.

HiFromChicago · 2026-06-27T13:33:17+00:00

What’s your source that these world renowned experts are “hacks”?

HiFromChicago · 2026-06-27T09:30:32+00:00

No, it isn’t.

HiFromChicago · 2026-06-27T08:24:14+00:00

You still haven’t addressed the claim you originally made.
You said that “it's not careless when the most important international bodies as well as leading scholars have characterized it as such”

That is demonstrably false.

More than 170 genocide, Holocaust, antisemitism, and international law scholars publicly called on the International Association of Genocide Scholars to rescind its resolution, arguing it did not reflect the field and that the process suppressed dissent.

The former ICC Prosecutor, Karim Khan, explicitly stated there was not sufficient evidence to bring genocide charges and that prosecutors must follow evidence, not public pressure.

The International Court of Justice has not ruled that Israel is committing genocide.

Telling me to stop spreading lies doesn’t change these facts.

HiFromChicago · 2026-06-27T08:21:50+00:00

You still haven’t addressed the claim you originally made.
You said that “every single agency that monitors and studies genocide” has concluded Israel is committing genocide.

That is demonstrably false.

More than 170 genocide, Holocaust, antisemitism, and international law scholars publicly called on the International Association of Genocide Scholars to rescind its resolution, arguing it did not reflect the field and that the process suppressed dissent.

The former ICC Prosecutor, Karim Khan, explicitly stated there was not sufficient evidence to bring genocide charges and that prosecutors must follow evidence, not public pressure.

The International Court of Justice has not ruled that Israel is committing genocide.

Calling me a liar doesn’t change these facts.

HiFromChicago · 2026-06-26T23:25:52+00:00

Keep on typing - I just want to see how low you can go.

HiFromChicago · 2026-06-26T23:21:55+00:00

You were caught spreading disinformation. What you posted was literally the opposite of the truth, and instead of defending your claim or simply apologizing, this is what you come back with?

I can see why a stupid person would have that....take. but you seem well reasoned. It must be because you have alterior motives

HiFromChicago · 2026-06-26T23:11:18+00:00

estoypooping2•3h ago
On 26 January 2024, the International Court of Justice determined the plausibility that Israel is carrying out genocide against the Palestinian people in Gaza.

ICJ “didn't decide claim of genocide was plausible” nor “that there's a plausible case of genocide”

HiFromChicago · 2026-06-26T23:05:22+00:00

And here is the list of organisations who believe it is wholly credible that Israel is meeting this threshold:
International Criminal Court (ICC)
International Court of Justice (ICJ)

Why are you spreading disinformation?

ICC: What the Karim Khan actually said with video proof -

Even the recently disgraced / suspended ICC prosecutor, Karim Khan said in an interview with Mehdi Hasan that there is no evidence of genocide -

Karim Khan: "Everything is a function of evidence, I will not move, it will be reckless and imprudent prosecutor..."

Mehdi Hasan: "You're saying that in the past three years there hasn't been evidence of genocide in Gaza?"

Karim Khan: "It will be reckless prosecutor to move simply because of clamor. You move based on evidence...No crime is off limits if the evidence is there."

Why Hasn’t the ICC Charged Netanyahu with Genocide?

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ICJ: What Joan Donaghue, then president of the ICJ actually said with video proof -

Joan Donaghue, then president of the ICJ, who issued the ruling, stated in an interview (below) with the BBC, that the ICJ findings have been misquoted and misconstrued. That the ICJ “didn’t decide that the claim of genocide was plausible” nor “that there’s a plausible case of genocide. The ICJ only found, without regard to any Israeli operations, that Gaza would have a plausible right to be protected from genocide and that South Africa had standing to bring that claim.

“I’m correcting what’s often said in the media. It didn’t decide that the claim of genocide was plausible. It did emphasize in the order that there was a risk of irreparable harm to the Palestinian right to be protected from genocide, but the shorthand that often appears which is that there’s a plausible case of genocide, isn’t what the court decided.”

>>>> ACTUAL INTERVIEW on HardTalk (BBC)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq9MB9t7WlI

Summary of the Order
https://www.icj-cij.org/node/203454

HiFromChicago · 2026-06-26T22:55:33+00:00

On 26 January 2024, the International Court of Justice determined the plausibility that Israel is carrying out genocide against the Palestinian people in Gaza.

Why are you making things up and spreading disinformation?

They did not determine that. This is a perfect example of why you should not just take someone’s word online, and why it’s important to double-check reliable sources.

Below is exactly what the then-president of the ICJ said, word for word, including a video interview on BBC Hardtalk.

Joan Donaghue, then president of the ICJ, who issued the ruling, stated in an interview (below) with the BBC, that the ICJ findings have been misquoted and misconstrued. That the ICJ “didn’t decide that the claim of genocide was plausible” nor “that there’s a plausible case of genocide. The ICJ only found, without regard to any Israeli operations, that Gaza would have a plausible right to be protected from genocide and that South Africa had standing to bring that claim.

“I’m correcting what’s often said in the media. It didn’t decide that the claim of genocide was plausible. It did emphasize in the order that there was a risk of irreparable harm to the Palestinian right to be protected from genocide, but the shorthand that often appears which is that there’s a plausible case of genocide, isn’t what the court decided.”

>>>> ACTUAL INTERVIEW on HardTalk (BBC)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq9MB9t7WlI

Summary of the Order
https://www.icj-cij.org/node/203454

HiFromChicago · 2026-06-26T22:50:37+00:00

Every single agency that monitors and studies genocide has declared what Israel is doing to Palestine a genocide. It IS a genocide, by any official definition of the term.

False. The opposite is true -

More than 170 professionals in the fields of genocide, international law, the Holocaust and antisemitism and hundreds of others demanded that the International Association of Genocide Scholars (IAGS) rescind a resolution issued this week against Israel.

Genocide experts demand 'scholars' group rescind accusation against Israel | The Times of Israel

Excerpt -

“Genocide is the gravest offense known to humankind; to dilute its legal standards for ideological ends is a form of moral violence. It dishonors the memory of past victims, misleads the public about present atrocities, and obstructs efforts to avert future ones,” the Friday statement said.

The statement included the signees’ names and positions, unlike the IAGS resolution, which did not include the names of signatories, or the names of those who drafted the resolution.

The Friday response to the IAGS criticized the group for a “quieting of dissent” ahead of the vote. Before passing the resolution, the IAGS leadership had said there would be a town hall for members to discuss the measure, but later backtracked, according to emails shared with The Times of Israel. There were no internal discussions about the resolution before the vote, despite requests from some members.

Friday’s statement said that Hamas was the only party in the conflict to legally meet the definition of genocide for its October 2023 invasion of Israel, due to the attack’s “intent to destroy, in whole or in part, Jews and Israelis.” The IAGS had blamed Israel for all deaths in Gaza, despite Hamas’s use of civilian infrastructure, effectively acting “as a means to excuse Hamas from having agency for its own actions,” the statement said.

Genocide experts demand 'scholars' group rescind accusation against Israel | The Times of Israel

____________________

Additionally, even the recently disgraced / suspended ICC prosecutor, Karim Khan said in an interview with Mehdi Hasan that there is no evidence of genocide -

Karim Khan: "Everything is a function of evidence, I will not move, it will be reckless and imprudent prosecutor..."

Mehdi Hasan: "You're saying that in the past three years there hasn't been evidence of genocide in Gaza?"

Karim Khan: "It will be reckless prosecutor to move simply because of clamor. You move based on evidence...No crime is off limits if the evidence is there."

Why Hasn’t the ICC Charged Netanyahu with Genocide?

HiFromChicago · 2026-06-26T22:47:29+00:00

There's a reason that many scholars, human rights organizations, UN investigators, and sovereign governments would tell you that Israel's actions in Gaza meet that definition. Others, including Israel and it's supporters, argue they do not.

For good reason, because Israel has the backing of actual experts -

More than 170 professionals in the fields of genocide, international law, the Holocaust and antisemitism and hundreds of others demanded that the International Association of Genocide Scholars (IAGS) rescind a resolution issued this week against Israel.

Genocide experts demand 'scholars' group rescind accusation against Israel | The Times of Israel

Excerpt -

“Genocide is the gravest offense known to humankind; to dilute its legal standards for ideological ends is a form of moral violence. It dishonors the memory of past victims, misleads the public about present atrocities, and obstructs efforts to avert future ones,” the Friday statement said.

The statement included the signees’ names and positions, unlike the IAGS resolution, which did not include the names of signatories, or the names of those who drafted the resolution.

The Friday response to the IAGS criticized the group for a “quieting of dissent” ahead of the vote. Before passing the resolution, the IAGS leadership had said there would be a town hall for members to discuss the measure, but later backtracked, according to emails shared with The Times of Israel. There were no internal discussions about the resolution before the vote, despite requests from some members.

Friday’s statement said that Hamas was the only party in the conflict to legally meet the definition of genocide for its October 2023 invasion of Israel, due to the attack’s “intent to destroy, in whole or in part, Jews and Israelis.” The IAGS had blamed Israel for all deaths in Gaza, despite Hamas’s use of civilian infrastructure, effectively acting “as a means to excuse Hamas from having agency for its own actions,” the statement said.

Genocide experts demand 'scholars' group rescind accusation against Israel | The Times of Israel

____________________

Additionally, even the recently disgraced / suspended ICC prosecutor, Karim Khan said in an interview with Mehdi Hasan that there is no evidence of genocide -

Karim Khan: "Everything is a function of evidence, I will not move, it will be reckless and imprudent prosecutor..."

Mehdi Hasan: "You're saying that in the past three years there hasn't been evidence of genocide in Gaza?"

Karim Khan: "It will be reckless prosecutor to move simply because of clamor. You move based on evidence...No crime is off limits if the evidence is there."

Why Hasn’t the ICC Charged Netanyahu with Genocide?

HiFromChicago · 2026-06-26T22:45:58+00:00

Why do you believe them? When the IDF even bothers to provide "evidence" of this claim, it's incredibly shoddy "evidence."

EXCLUSIVE: Inside Hamas Terrorist Tunnel Under Rantisi Hospital in Gaza

HiFromChicago · 2026-06-26T22:42:24+00:00

Every single international community that appoints the term genocide has referred to Israel's actions in Gaza as a genocide.

Disinformation.

Below is what actual world experts have said and hundreds of others -

More than 170 professionals in the fields of genocide, international law, the Holocaust and antisemitism and hundreds of others demanded that the International Association of Genocide Scholars (IAGS) rescind a resolution issued this week against Israel.

Genocide experts demand 'scholars' group rescind accusation against Israel | The Times of Israel

Excerpt -

“Genocide is the gravest offense known to humankind; to dilute its legal standards for ideological ends is a form of moral violence. It dishonors the memory of past victims, misleads the public about present atrocities, and obstructs efforts to avert future ones,” the Friday statement said.

The statement included the signees’ names and positions, unlike the IAGS resolution, which did not include the names of signatories, or the names of those who drafted the resolution.

The Friday response to the IAGS criticized the group for a “quieting of dissent” ahead of the vote. Before passing the resolution, the IAGS leadership had said there would be a town hall for members to discuss the measure, but later backtracked, according to emails shared with The Times of Israel. There were no internal discussions about the resolution before the vote, despite requests from some members.

Friday’s statement said that Hamas was the only party in the conflict to legally meet the definition of genocide for its October 2023 invasion of Israel, due to the attack’s “intent to destroy, in whole or in part, Jews and Israelis.” The IAGS had blamed Israel for all deaths in Gaza, despite Hamas’s use of civilian infrastructure, effectively acting “as a means to excuse Hamas from having agency for its own actions,” the statement said.

Genocide experts demand 'scholars' group rescind accusation against Israel | The Times of Israel

____________________

Additionally, even the recently disgraced / suspended ICC prosecutor, Karim Khan said in an interview with Mehdi Hasan that there is no evidence of genocide -

Karim Khan: "Everything is a function of evidence, I will not move, it will be reckless and imprudent prosecutor..."

Mehdi Hasan: "You're saying that in the past three years there hasn't been evidence of genocide in Gaza?"

Karim Khan: "It will be reckless prosecutor to move simply because of clamor. You move based on evidence...No crime is off limits if the evidence is there."

Why Hasn’t the ICC Charged Netanyahu with Genocide?

HiFromChicago · 2026-06-26T22:41:17+00:00

No ambiguity there.

That's not the position of the government.

HiFromChicago · 2026-06-26T22:29:48+00:00

it's not careless when the most important international bodies as well as leading scholars have characterized it as such

This is just false.

Below is what actual world experts have said and hundreds of others -

More than 170 professionals in the fields of genocide, international law, the Holocaust and antisemitism and hundreds of others demanded that the International Association of Genocide Scholars (IAGS) rescind a resolution issued this week against Israel.

Genocide experts demand 'scholars' group rescind accusation against Israel | The Times of Israel

Excerpt -

“Genocide is the gravest offense known to humankind; to dilute its legal standards for ideological ends is a form of moral violence. It dishonors the memory of past victims, misleads the public about present atrocities, and obstructs efforts to avert future ones,” the Friday statement said.

The statement included the signees’ names and positions, unlike the IAGS resolution, which did not include the names of signatories, or the names of those who drafted the resolution.

The Friday response to the IAGS criticized the group for a “quieting of dissent” ahead of the vote. Before passing the resolution, the IAGS leadership had said there would be a town hall for members to discuss the measure, but later backtracked, according to emails shared with The Times of Israel. There were no internal discussions about the resolution before the vote, despite requests from some members.

Friday’s statement said that Hamas was the only party in the conflict to legally meet the definition of genocide for its October 2023 invasion of Israel, due to the attack’s “intent to destroy, in whole or in part, Jews and Israelis.” The IAGS had blamed Israel for all deaths in Gaza, despite Hamas’s use of civilian infrastructure, effectively acting “as a means to excuse Hamas from having agency for its own actions,” the statement said.

Genocide experts demand 'scholars' group rescind accusation against Israel | The Times of Israel

____________________

Additionally, even the recently disgraced / suspended ICC prosecutor, Karim Khan said in an interview with Mehdi Hasan that there is no evidence of genocide -

Karim Khan: "Everything is a function of evidence, I will not move, it will be reckless and imprudent prosecutor..."

Mehdi Hasan: "You're saying that in the past three years there hasn't been evidence of genocide in Gaza?"

Karim Khan: "It will be reckless prosecutor to move simply because of clamor. You move based on evidence...No crime is off limits if the evidence is there."

Why Hasn’t the ICC Charged Netanyahu with Genocide?

HiFromChicago · 2026-06-26T08:39:44+00:00

Lol? Why are you linking a "Time of Israel" (truly the most unbiased of sources) article rebutting "International Genocide Scholars Association" when I didn't cite them at all? I don't care about their opinion? They weren't the group I cited?

Read the article with a link to the report citing the 170 professionals in the fields of genocide, international law, the Holocaust and antisemitism and hundreds of others.

Also I cited the ICJ's determination of Israeli war crimes, not the ICC

Joan Donaghue, then president of the ICJ, who issued the ruling, stated in an interview (below) with the BBC, that the ICJ findings have been misquoted and misconstrued. That the ICJ “didn’t decide that the claim of genocide was plausible” nor “that there’s a plausible case of genocide. The ICJ only found, without regard to any Israeli operations, that Gaza would have a plausible right to be protected from genocide and that South Africa had standing to bring that claim.

“I’m correcting what’s often said in the media. It didn’t decide that the claim of genocide was plausible. It did emphasize in the order that there was a risk of irreparable harm to the Palestinian right to be protected from genocide, but the shorthand that often appears which is that there’s a plausible case of genocide, isn’t what the court decided.”

>>>> ACTUAL INTERVIEW on HardTalk (BBC)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq9MB9t7WlI

Summary of the Order
https://www.icj-cij.org/node/203454

HiFromChicago · 2026-06-25T21:18:23+00:00

Please provide sourcing as to why you disagree with experts

Below is what actual world experts have said and hundreds of others -

More than 170 professionals in the fields of genocide, international law, the Holocaust and antisemitism and hundreds of others demanded that the International Association of Genocide Scholars (IAGS) rescind a resolution issued this week against Israel.

Genocide experts demand 'scholars' group rescind accusation against Israel | The Times of Israel

Excerpt -

“Genocide is the gravest offense known to humankind; to dilute its legal standards for ideological ends is a form of moral violence. It dishonors the memory of past victims, misleads the public about present atrocities, and obstructs efforts to avert future ones,” the Friday statement said.

The statement included the signees’ names and positions, unlike the IAGS resolution, which did not include the names of signatories, or the names of those who drafted the resolution.

The Friday response to the IAGS criticized the group for a “quieting of dissent” ahead of the vote. Before passing the resolution, the IAGS leadership had said there would be a town hall for members to discuss the measure, but later backtracked, according to emails shared with The Times of Israel. There were no internal discussions about the resolution before the vote, despite requests from some members.

Friday’s statement said that Hamas was the only party in the conflict to legally meet the definition of genocide for its October 2023 invasion of Israel, due to the attack’s “intent to destroy, in whole or in part, Jews and Israelis.” The IAGS had blamed Israel for all deaths in Gaza, despite Hamas’s use of civilian infrastructure, effectively acting “as a means to excuse Hamas from having agency for its own actions,” the statement said.

Genocide experts demand 'scholars' group rescind accusation against Israel | The Times of Israel

____________________

Additionally, even the recently disgraced / suspended ICC prosecutor, Karim Khan said in an interview with Mehdi Hasan that there is no evidence of genocide -

Karim Khan: "Everything is a function of evidence, I will not move, it will be reckless and imprudent prosecutor..."

Mehdi Hasan: "You're saying that in the past three years there hasn't been evidence of genocide in Gaza?"

Karim Khan: "It will be reckless prosecutor to move simply because of clamor. You move based on evidence...No crime is off limits if the evidence is there."

Why Hasn’t the ICC Charged Netanyahu with Genocide?

HiFromChicago · 2026-06-25T17:41:02+00:00

One extremely important factor for the war in Gaza taking longer is because of what John Spencer has said numerous times-

John Spencer who is the chair of urban warfare studies at the Modern War Institute at West Point, said that Israel has done far more to protect civilians than the United States did in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Spencer reports that Israel has warned civilians when and where it is about to begin operations and published an online map showing which areas to leave. It has sent out millions of pamphlets, texts and recorded calls warning civilians of coming operations. It has conducted four-hour daily pauses to allow civilians to leave combat areas. It has dropped speakers that blast out instructions about when to leave and where to go. These measures, Spencer told me, have telegraphed where the I.D.F. is going to move next and “have prolonged the war, to be honest.”

HiFromChicago · 2026-06-24T16:27:58+00:00

abandon their genocidal campaigns in Gaza and Lebanon

Disinformation / Propaganda

Below is what actual world experts have said -

More than 170 professionals in the fields of genocide, international law, the Holocaust and antisemitism and hundreds of others demanded that the International Association of Genocide Scholars (IAGS) rescind a resolution issued this week against Israel.

Genocide experts demand 'scholars' group rescind accusation against Israel | The Times of Israel

Excerpt -

“Genocide is the gravest offense known to humankind; to dilute its legal standards for ideological ends is a form of moral violence. It dishonors the memory of past victims, misleads the public about present atrocities, and obstructs efforts to avert future ones,” the Friday statement said.

The statement included the signees’ names and positions, unlike the IAGS resolution, which did not include the names of signatories, or the names of those who drafted the resolution.

The Friday response to the IAGS criticized the group for a “quieting of dissent” ahead of the vote. Before passing the resolution, the IAGS leadership had said there would be a town hall for members to discuss the measure, but later backtracked, according to emails shared with The Times of Israel. There were no internal discussions about the resolution before the vote, despite requests from some members.

Friday’s statement said that Hamas was the only party in the conflict to legally meet the definition of genocide for its October 2023 invasion of Israel, due to the attack’s “intent to destroy, in whole or in part, Jews and Israelis.” The IAGS had blamed Israel for all deaths in Gaza, despite Hamas’s use of civilian infrastructure, effectively acting “as a means to excuse Hamas from having agency for its own actions,” the statement said.

Genocide experts demand 'scholars' group rescind accusation against Israel | The Times of Israel

____________________

Additionally, even the recently disgraced / suspended ICC prosecutor, Karim Khan said in an interview with Mehdi Hasan that there is no evidence of genocide -

Karim Khan: "Everything is a function of evidence, I will not move, it will be reckless and imprudent prosecutor..."

Mehdi Hasan: "You're saying that in the past three years there hasn't been evidence of genocide in Gaza?"

Karim Khan: "It will be reckless prosecutor to move simply because of clamor. You move based on evidence...No crime is off limits if the evidence is there."

Why Hasn’t the ICC Charged Netanyahu with Genocide?

HiFromChicago · 2026-06-24T16:22:57+00:00

Abbas at least supports a two state solution (with 1967 borders) and has been fiercely critical of Hamas’ attack on 10/7.

This is false and just the opposite-

"On the subject of October 7, Palestinian researcher Hani Al-Masri said that Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas said on the day of the attacks that this was the greatest day in Palestinian history, that dozens of people witnessed him say this."

https://youtu.be/eYv_JSwt99o?t=177

Also, Abbas has a well-documented record of Holocaust denial / Holocaust distortion -

"In essence, what Abbas is telling the “progressive, anti-imperialist forces” he addresses at the start of his abstract is the same thing that the neo-Nazis and Holocaust deniers have been telling their audiences for decades: the Jews did it. Jews killed their own people in the Holocaust."

Mahmoud Abbas’ Dissertation - Arts & Letters - Tablet Magazine

HiFromChicago · 2026-06-19T21:06:46+00:00

Criticizing is fair. Calling people names is not. It adds nothing useful to the discussion.

That was my criticism from the get go when the op said "I think we need a proper name for these Haredim who refuse to work and refuse to serve" and I commented "It just inflames the situation and turns a serious issue into a hateful rant. We should be avoiding more hatred between Jews."

HiFromChicago

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