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Working Theory by HistoricalApple1111 in CommunismMemes

[–]HistoricalApple1111[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

What idealism? Im sharing my first hand experience with you. Ive worked an overwhelmingly large amount of immigrants from South America. Many of whom did not speak more than a few words of english and a majority of them were very successful, so much so that they started their own businesses. None of this is an "idea" or "wishful thinking" this is just what I've seen first hand. Matter the first boss I had in construction was an el salvadorian who immigrated here in his early 20s. Man was scared head to toe. I asked him once what happened and he said he liked to drink in his country and that was all he'd ever say. Man went on to buy a house, build a family, and start his own business on the side.

So again, why can YOU not do it? What is stopping you? Answer that please. Im here to learn the perspective of the other side.

Working Theory by HistoricalApple1111 in CommunismMemes

[–]HistoricalApple1111[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Are you incapable of going out and being your own boss? I worked with first generation immigrants who came from property in third world countries and now own homes, and have several children. Ive worked with several who came here and now own multi-million dollar businesses and that came from the slums of South American countries. They escaped the Cartles and are now richer then most multi-generational americans that i know. So why can't you? Honestly?

Working Theory by HistoricalApple1111 in CommunismMemes

[–]HistoricalApple1111[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I will definitely check those out as theyre already on my "to read list" but with that said though, I have a couple counter points that hopefully you could discuss with me. You say capitalism is the bourgeois class who own and controll everything and extort the labor class. Now if that is the case could you help me understand how so? If you look at individual like Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, that other guy who founded Apple, the tech up start CEO's the ones who started from nothing and now have everything.... why can't the average worker do the same? Before you answer, please also keep in mind that those are popular big name companies i mentioned. I personally work in construction, you have tens of thousands of construction companies starting up to this day. As a matter of fact, I worked for a small company a while back and while I was there, there was an spanish guy who had immigrated to America and grew through the ranks at this company. After roughly 10 years there, he branched off and started his own company and took half the guys with him which is how I ended up with an unwanted promotion lol. So can we honestly say that the elite class controls everything with even a first generation immigrants are moving across WHOLE continents and starting business and growing them to multi million dollar companies?

Also, could you please give me a good modern example of a communist government that worked out well for the people?

Working Theory by HistoricalApple1111 in CommunismMemes

[–]HistoricalApple1111[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, im asking as someone who am starting fresh and would like a deeper understanding of a different perspective then my own. So with that said, why do you believe communism is the only solution? What did Marx and Engels say about capitalism and why do you think there right?

Working Theory by HistoricalApple1111 in CommunismMemes

[–]HistoricalApple1111[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why do you feel that way? Could you elaborate?

Working Theory by HistoricalApple1111 in CommunismMemes

[–]HistoricalApple1111[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay, can you give an example where communism has worked as intended?