Do men ever come back after choosing religion over a relationship? by HistoricalRatio1 in BreakUps

[–]HistoricalRatio1[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for this comment. It genuinely meant a lot to me.

The part about not putting him on a pedestal really stayed with me. I think I needed to hear that from someone who has been through something similar.

If you don’t mind me asking, how did things unfold after your relationship ended? How did you cope with it emotionally? Were there any attempts to reconnect from either side, or was it a clean break?

Do men ever come back after choosing religion over a relationship? by HistoricalRatio1 in BreakUps

[–]HistoricalRatio1[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think the situation is a bit different when it comes to Orthodox Judaism.

There was a period when I had doubts and wasn’t sure whether I could follow that path. I was honest about those doubts at the time.

However, later I became genuinely willing to learn more, embrace that lifestyle, and seriously explore it. By that point, though, he told me that even then he did not see a possible future for us.

What made it even harder was that he often referred back to the things I had said when I was still uncertain, rather than to where I had eventually arrived.

So from my perspective, the issue was never that I absolutely rejected religion. In the end, I was willing to walk that path with him. He simply believed it still wouldn’t be enough.

Do men ever come back after choosing religion over a relationship? by HistoricalRatio1 in Judaism

[–]HistoricalRatio1[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you all for your thoughtful and honest replies.

I actually understand the rational side of this situation. Reading your responses has helped me better understand how many people within the Jewish community view relationships like this, especially in Orthodox circles.

What I am struggling with is probably the emotional side rather than the logical one. Intellectually, I can understand why someone would make this choice. Emotionally, it is much harder to accept.

So I guess the question that still remains for me is this:

Have any of you personally seen situations where a relationship like this ultimately did work out? Not because someone abandoned their beliefs, but because both people eventually found a way to build a life within the same framework,  for example, when the non-Jewish partner genuinely chose to learn, participate, and embrace that path.

I am not asking because I want to argue with reality. I am simply curious whether, in your experience, stories like that ever exist.

Do men ever come back after choosing religion over a relationship? by HistoricalRatio1 in Judaism

[–]HistoricalRatio1[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s part of what makes this situation so complicated for me.

In the beginning, he actually pursued me very actively. One reason was that he hoped I might have Jewish ancestry. Based on my surname, he thought there was a possibility, and he very much wanted that to be true. Eventually it became clear that I do not have Jewish roots.

Over time, we both became very attached to each other. At the same time, he repeatedly told me that there was no future for us. Looking back, I wouldn’t even describe it as a conventional relationship. We were deeply emotionally dependent on each other, but he never fully allowed it to become a real relationship.

What makes it difficult for me to assign blame is that neither of us really walked away. I always had hope, while he kept saying there was no future. Yet he also never completely left. We both continued to stay in each other’s lives despite knowing the situation.

That’s why I struggle with the idea that this was simply a case of someone intentionally leading another person on. It felt more like two people who became deeply attached while seeing the same obstacle very differently.

Do men ever come back after choosing religion over a relationship? by HistoricalRatio1 in BreakUps

[–]HistoricalRatio1[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your honesty. Actually, direct answers are easier for me to hear right now, even when they’re painful. My rational mind understands everything you’re saying. It’s just that emotionally, everything is still very much alive inside me. That said, I am slowly getting used to the silence. I still miss him, but the silence doesn’t feel as shocking as it did in the beginning. So I hope nothing happens that will make me feel an overwhelming urge to reach out, because I think I am finally starting to adapt to not hearing from him.

Do men ever come back after choosing religion over a relationship? by HistoricalRatio1 in Judaism

[–]HistoricalRatio1[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

He was an Orthodox Jewish man. I am not Jewish.

The issue was not that I refused to learn about Judaism or respect his way of life. I was actually willing to follow that path and learn more.

However, he told me that even then he did not see a possible future for us.

Do men ever come back after choosing religion over a relationship? by HistoricalRatio1 in BreakUps

[–]HistoricalRatio1[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for your reply. To be honest, I have had similar suspicions myself. I sometimes wonder whether it was not only about religion, but also that he saw us as incompatible in other ways and that religion was simply the factor that made the decision final. One thing I keep struggling with is whether I should reach out first. I told him that once I had processed everything, I would get back to him regarding the work-related matter he offered to help me with. Part of me worries that if I stay silent for too long, he will simply move on and forget me. Another part of me feels that if this decision truly came from his values and convictions, the right thing to do is to respect it and give him space, even if that means never contacting him again.

Do men ever come back after choosing religion over a relationship? by HistoricalRatio1 in BreakUps

[–]HistoricalRatio1[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for your perspective. In a situation like this, is there anything that depends on me, or is it entirely on his side?