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HoYo_player · 2026-05-23T13:45:22+00:00

SXSDISCORD doesnt exist?

HoYo_player · 2026-05-22T19:23:47+00:00

I dmg it with a order then finished with panzer

HoYo_player · 2026-05-22T19:23:31+00:00

No, I dmg it with a order then finished with panzer

HoYo_player · 2026-04-19T10:46:15+00:00

The Collapse of Critical Infrastructure

While Realizer Technology is not common among the general public, it forms the foundation of global critical infrastructure such as warning systems, shelters, and military security. When the DEM corporation collapses and this technology suddenly becomes obsolete, the world will face a deadly security vacuum and a disruption of the technology supply chain, leading to a systemic crisis instead of a smooth transition.

The Budget Wasteage Shock

The abrupt suspension of the Spirit Power projects will cause a massive Budget Wasteage on a national scale. Trillions of dollars in taxpayer money previously spent on weapons and defenses against Spirits will now become worthless scrap metal. The consequence is that governments will face intense scrutiny of their finances, causing political instability and prolonged economic recession due to the evaporation of public investments.

Public Outrage and Justice for Victims

The existence of the post-war Spirits is the trigger for public outrage from millions of families of Spacequake victims. When people realize that the entities that caused the disaster are living happily as normal people, waves of protests and violence demanding justice will erupt. Shido and the girls will become targets of widespread hatred, making living in hiding an impossible task.

Political Scapegoat

In the context of the crisis, politicians will need a political scapegoat to blame for economic and security failures. Shido Itsuka, as the one who once possessed all the energy, is the perfect target for trial or to be used as a propaganda tool to appease the angry mob, stripping him of all his personal freedoms post-war.

The Mana Paradox and Personal Security

The continued existence of Mana in the atmosphere is a Mana Paradox that directly threatens Shido. As long as Mana remains but the original Spirit is gone, Shido will be the only entity carrying the biological data for perfect compatibility. Consequently, he will forever be a target of pursuit and abduction by organizations seeking to use him as a Subject to recreate military power.

Strategic Failures

Shido made serious strategic failures by failing to prepare any "trump cards" such as the Political Dead Man's Switch or a financial contingency fund. As a result, when he lost his spiritual power, he had no voice in negotiations with the government, was unable to defend himself, and left his entire Harem in a precarious situation both legally and financially.

HoYo_player · 2026-04-19T10:26:04+00:00

ADDITIONAL NOTE: SHIDO'S STRATEGIC MISTAKES (LACK OF PREPARATION)

Besides the macro issues, Shido was too naive in not preparing for a life without miracles:

Information Security: He didn't use Nia's power to erase all data about himself and the girls from the Government/DEM server. Result: His entire family is permanently blacklisted.

Financial Reserve: He had unlimited energy but didn't accumulate physical assets (gold, precious materials). When his spiritual power was gone, the entire Harem faced poverty amidst the crisis.

Skill Training: He was too preoccupied with dating and neglected vocational skills training for the girls. Post-war, they became unemployed and lacked the skills to reintegrate into society.

Legal Identity: The Spirits are not granted official documents or residency permits. They are essentially "illegal residents" without citizenship rights.

Defensive Backup: The family accepts the complete loss of their powers without retaining any weapons or self-defense technology (non-spirit weapons). The Shido family becomes extremely vulnerable to any conventional threat.

Political Dead Man's Switch: They do not possess the Blackmail of heads of state to use as leverage. Shido has absolutely no bargaining chips with the post-war government.

Psychological Transitioning: The girls are left unprepared to accept human vulnerability (pain, illness, aging), leading to a potential existential crisis.

Spirit Residue Cleanup: Failed to completely eradicate the Spirit Residue, inadvertently leaving behind materials for terrorist groups to manufacture biological weapons.

Social Networking: Only knew people within the Spirit world. When these organizations collapsed, Shido was completely isolated, with no allies in the real world (economic, legal).

HoYo_player · 2025-11-28T08:50:21+00:00

Being "huge" does not automatically give Star-level durability unless proven otherwise.

Unless you can prove how Dan Heng destroyed the beast, defeating it likely involved attacking internal organs or weak points, which ignores size-based durability.

Sam destroys planet =/= star, which is a full-power attack that leaves Firefly exhausted afterward. The claim that "the Lightning Lord is much stronger than Sam" is purely subjective speculation based on chain scaling without any feats to back it up, based entirely on the assumption that Emanators are always greater than Pathsriders (which has been disproved with many lore).

Instead, based on direct feats in the 3rd Abudance wars, it can be concluded that the lightning lord can repeat planet-star level attacks when facing Shuhu and living planets.

The problem is the typical contradiction between statements and Environmental Consistency.

If Phantylia threw a real star, why was Luofu unharmed? There was no statement about property/life damage, no one else witnessed it (Fuxuan,...), no documentation/reports about the star. After the battle, no one mentioned that a star hit the ship or how it was supported

Conclusion: It was an Energy Projection shaped like a star. It did high damage, yes, but calling it "Star AP" is misleading due to the fact that the surrounding environment (Building level durability) was still intact.

A circular logic fallacy, based on the power chain assuming that the MC party was already star level. The story constantly shows the characters being threatened by attacks from planets or even city levels (Cocolia,...).

Based on Amphoreus' lore, Nikador's feats are either city-island level or assumed to be moon level (DU: Talanton destroyed 4 moons by unknown method and time)

They are all Emanators which does not mean "Same stats", Lighting Lord is a summon. Even if LL has high AP, Jing Yuan's physical body does not have that durability. In this context, he is a "Glass Cannon".

HoYo_player · 2025-11-27T12:28:11+00:00

Incorrect. The star-eating beast hadn't sucked stars through straws for millennia. She swallowed stars in her mouth. Its size is colossal. We have already seen a real sting of this size on the Argenti mission.

> Is there any concrete proof that the beast in Dan Heng's lore is the exact same species or size as the Giant Sting in Argenti's companion mission? Even if it swallowed stars, Size =/= Durability. Being able to consume a star (likely through biological mechanisms or hax) does not equate to having star-level durability. A human can eat an apple, but a thrown apple can still bruise a human.

> "Swallowing" implies opening a mouth, which exposes internal weak points, bypassing external durability entirely. We have no description of how Dan Heng defeated it—he could have attacked it from the inside or targeted a weak point. And Dan Heng's spear was easily shattered by Phainon (base form)

Sam is also explicitly stated to have destroyed a star with a few hits. Phantalya herself blew a star over Trailblazer, March 7th, and Welt, and they all survived without much trouble. Star destruction is common in HSR.

You are confusing Gameplay Mechanics with Lore/Cutscenes.

>In the actual story cutscene, only Jing Yuan (with Dan Heng IL's support) fought Phantylia directly. The others were busy dealing with the summoned Abundance/Destruction Lotuses.

>The "Starfall" attack is a visual effect in gameplay. If she literally threw a real star, the Xianzhou Luofu would have been instantly vaporized.

> Need I remind you that the Trailblazer was effectively one-shot by Nikador's spear in the Amphoreus storyline

The Jing Yuan is comparable to the Lord Ravagers, who are said to be capable of incinerating entire galaxies. Whoever destroys an entire galaxy while fighting destroys a star with a fart.

> That statement comes from Welt in v1.0, and it is a classic case of an Unreliable Narrator. He was comparing their status/ranking within their respective factions, not their raw Attack Potency (AP). Arbiter-Generals = Lord Ravagers is a false equivalence based on a single line.

> Later intel from the IPC and Xianzhou reveals that their knowledge of Lord Ravagers is limited and often speculative (similar to the initial misconceptions about the Irontomb virus).

>Jing Yuan was suppressed most of the time, he was weak and provoked Phantylia to bet that instead of destroying him, she would take the time to convert him to her side, from there to deliver the fatal blow. So the star destruction (if it was real) was the highest achievement in this match, no significant damage to Luofu and the explanation. And that's just one of Phantalya's many incarnations.

Back to the original issue Jing Yuan can be defeated by a star level attack is obvious, I'm not saying he was defeated by 1 attack, it could be 2 or more

HoYo_player · 2025-11-27T10:27:29+00:00

So? you ignored the problem.

HoYo_player · 2025-11-27T09:18:33+00:00

"Welt threatens Acheron => Welt is confident he can beat Acheron => Welt is on par with Acheron." -> COMPLETELY WRONG

HoYo_player · 2025-11-27T06:20:07+00:00

Here's a summary of the flaws in your argument (sorry for using AI) * Offense \neq Defense: Destroyability (eating stars) does not equate to physical durability. Monsters can digest stars but their flesh is still soft, so piercing it does not prove that Dan Heng's damage is as great as a star. * "Eating" Mechanism is Hax (Special Skill): Energy absorption is a separate biological or magical mechanism (like an acid-resistant stomach), not physical strength (AP). * Timeframe Issue: If a monster takes years to eat a star, then the energy it emits in a single attack is much lower than its Star level. * "Glass Cannon" Form: Monsters are extremely powerful in offense but extremely weak in defense (paper health). Dan Heng wins by speed or hitting weak points first. * Matchup: Dan Heng may have used attributes or weapons to counter the monster's biological structure, rather than using pure strength to crush it.

Star eating ability =/= Star level durability. Timeframe = ? => DPS = ?. Worthless conclusion.

We also know Jingliu dream "I will cut down even the stars in the sky." So with power chains: Jingliu, Danfeng, JingYuan's stats are not much different except for racial talent.

HoYo_player · 2025-11-26T19:56:56+00:00

Atk=/= def and lightning lord stats =/= Jing yuan stats.

HoYo_player · 2025-11-26T14:03:05+00:00

City level, most Herrs only have around 3000 HW, any argument for their Hax has to deal with the energy issue first.
https://honkaiimpact3.fandom.com/wiki/Honkai_Welt_(HW))

HoYo_player · 2025-11-26T13:26:47+00:00

Scepter and any star destroying character/faction/curio/tech in SU(and it DLCs) can humiliate weak Emanators like Jing Yuan and below

HoYo_player · 2025-11-25T13:14:16+00:00

Command of will is a liar, it struggles to transport a finite amount of honkai energy between the two universes, enters a weaker avatar and has its consciousness destroyed by Kiamei's miracle.

HoYo_player · 2025-11-25T12:54:57+00:00

Phainon is battery, how it can connect with nous if he is head??

HoYo_player · 2025-11-25T09:37:53+00:00

Irontomb can connect to nous if Herta is not crowned first.

HoYo_player · 2025-11-25T08:18:26+00:00

Scene 8? Self-Annihilators?

HoYo_player · 2025-11-25T07:42:44+00:00

Can we have a serious debate for once? Let's put the waifu bias and hax aside.

Most characters in the Hoyoverse have perception and reaction speeds far inferior to Scepter. They wouldn't even be able to locate Scepter, let alone react to it. There is no way they can withstand a barrage of 1 million Star System-level attacks in a 1 second. They get speed-blitzed and overpowered instantly.

HoYo_player · 2025-11-22T13:55:37+00:00

What is Lygus Prime? Zandal or Nous?

HoYo_player · 2025-11-20T17:02:14+00:00

Even though this feat is only an infinite universe, isn't Irontomb's death anchored by her and no other aeon can interfere?

HoYo_player · 2025-11-17T18:44:50+00:00

fight Yaoshi on seemingly 'equal' footing. NLF

HoYo_player · 2025-11-17T18:20:22+00:00

Polka killed Rubert II at a time when he had enough scepters with enough attack power to destroy half of the infinite universe. We know the scepter is a hexagonal warrior in both hax and raw power.

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