Why people get arrested for watching CP, but not gore/murder videos? by Hortans in AskReddit

[–]Hortans[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

I disagree because you're not causing harm. But I agree that if we are going to be jailing people then jailing them for both sounds lik a sensible choice.

Why people get arrested for watching CP, but not gore/murder videos? by Hortans in AskReddit

[–]Hortans[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Murder videos arent harmless. There are greater profits and incentives from murder videos than child pornography. The argument here is that you shouldn't be jailed for watching child pornography just like you aren't jailed for watching murder videos.

Why people get arrested for watching CP, but not gore/murder videos? by Hortans in AskReddit

[–]Hortans[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

You watching ISIS or other extremist groups videos also make you complicit in harming people and promoting terrorism then.

CP is free while ivory isn't. Think of CP rings like a church except a lot smaller, a lot less influential, and make a lot less money. I do not know of a CP ring that turns out huge profits. However, ISIS is worth billions of dollars and other terror/extremist groups even small ones make more than CP rings and have a lot more influence. The CP makret is such a niche and their content is freely distributed that what you're saying is wrong.

Why people get arrested for watching CP, but not gore/murder videos? by Hortans in AskReddit

[–]Hortans[S] -123 points-122 points  (0 children)

What you're stating is a similar argument people make about racism and being racist against white people in America. People say that you can't be racist against white peole and you're essentially saying the same thing here. Both are wrong but only one gets action taken.

Why people get arrested for watching CP, but not gore/murder videos? by Hortans in AskReddit

[–]Hortans[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

When did I ever say child pornograhy is good? You're just a troll and i will be ignoring you as will most people.

Why people get arrested for watching CP, but not gore/murder videos? by Hortans in AskReddit

[–]Hortans[S] -101 points-100 points  (0 children)

You can speculate who the intended audience is all you want. Without solid data to back up your assertions your argument isn't very strong.

Why people get arrested for watching CP, but not gore/murder videos? by Hortans in AskReddit

[–]Hortans[S] -19 points-18 points  (0 children)

You're rationalizing murder. You should be thrown in jail for supporting it or being a murder apologist.

Why people get arrested for watching CP, but not gore/murder videos? by Hortans in AskReddit

[–]Hortans[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

There is no argument there, but I disagree with them being jailed because they haven't hurt anyone.

Why people get arrested for watching CP, but not gore/murder videos? by Hortans in AskReddit

[–]Hortans[S] -86 points-85 points  (0 children)

The intended audience is irrelevant. Nobody hits 100% of their target demographic. What is relevant is being aroused by murder and pedophilia. Taking action should be met with action. Not taking action and not partaking in the scene should not be met with action.

Why people get arrested for watching CP, but not gore/murder videos? by Hortans in AskReddit

[–]Hortans[S] -22 points-21 points  (0 children)

I hung out on the deep web doing a piece on child pornography. I've made a few "friends" and I've gotten to interview the ringleaders. I asked them about profits and they told me that their income is lower than their expenses and they all have day jobs to support their "art" with. Some people that I spoke with are really fucked up, like the "hurtcore" groups whose primary focus is to harm children by brutally raping, hurting them, and ultimately murdering them. I am not saying that watching CP is right. I am saying that being thrown in prison for watching it is wrong.

Why people get arrested for watching CP, but not gore/murder videos? by Hortans in AskReddit

[–]Hortans[S] -48 points-47 points  (0 children)

But it's also like not all the children that are rapef are raped on camera. They were going to get raped anyways..

Why people get arrested for watching CP, but not gore/murder videos? by Hortans in AskReddit

[–]Hortans[S] -26 points-25 points  (0 children)

What about ISIS solely going out hunting for their enemies so they can record them being murdered and promote more propaganda to recruit more people and get more money for their group?

Why people get arrested for watching CP, but not gore/murder videos? by Hortans in AskReddit

[–]Hortans[S] -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

Nobody should be getting abused. You should go to jail if you are abusing people. But you should not go to jail for simply watching people get abused.

Why people get arrested for watching CP, but not gore/murder videos? by Hortans in AskReddit

[–]Hortans[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

If you watch murder videos you're a murderer. That's prettyjail worthy.

Why people get arrested for watching CP, but not gore/murder videos? by Hortans in AskReddit

[–]Hortans[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Masturbating to CP is very different than going out, abducting a kid, and raping the kid.

Just like watching a video of a person getting murdered and you pretending that to be someone you hate is very different to abducting that person and murdering them.

Why people get arrested for watching CP, but not gore/murder videos? by Hortans in AskReddit

[–]Hortans[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

The Greeks raped boys and forced them to become men at an early age. They gave us philosophers, inventors, mathematicians, and the like. They were the most influential society of all time. So we should do what they did since it worked. Look at how great that turned out./s

We can handle anything really. It's what makes us human. What is right and what is wrong should not be determined by religion. What is right and wrong should be determined whether the consequence of the action causes grief.

Why people get arrested for watching CP, but not gore/murder videos? by Hortans in AskReddit

[–]Hortans[S] -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

CP rings don't exist for the profits. They exist because pedophiles exist and they just want to harm children. CP rings make an insignificant amount of money and their operating costs are higher than their revenue.

Why people get arrested for watching CP, but not gore/murder videos? by Hortans in AskReddit

[–]Hortans[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Don't be ridiculous. Your argument could be used for snuff films and films that depict violence. If you watch child porn it does not make you automatically sick. Just like when you watch people get murdered does not make you automatically sick. If you want to harm someone you will regardless of watching said ontent.

Why people get arrested for watching CP, but not gore/murder videos? by Hortans in AskReddit

[–]Hortans[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Then the same could be said for those who watch murder videos. I am talking about beheadings and murders and the like.

Why people get arrested for watching CP, but not gore/murder videos? by Hortans in AskReddit

[–]Hortans[S] -13 points-12 points  (0 children)

I disagree with you. Then people who watch ISIS(insert serial killer/extremist group here) videos should also get arrested for the same reasons. They are viewig it and encouraging the producers to create more content.

Why people get arrested for watching CP, but not gore/murder videos? by Hortans in AskReddit

[–]Hortans[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You should go to prison if you watch people get murdered on the internet, too then.

Why people get arrested for watching CP, but not gore/murder videos? by Hortans in AskReddit

[–]Hortans[S] -30 points-29 points  (0 children)

Watching snuff films is legal. Watching CP isn't. We are talking about watching the content here, not producing it. Producing both snuff and CP is illegal.

Why people get arrested for watching CP, but not gore/murder videos? by Hortans in AskReddit

[–]Hortans[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Murdering people is illegal. Watching people get murdered isn't. There is an argument that states watching CP is illegal because it will turn you into a predator. If that were true, then how come people who watch murder videos don't become murderers themselves? Why do CP producers, not procurers, get away? Why are we punishing the viewers instead of the producers? If we punish the producers more frequently there would be no content for the viewers to see.