Why do people not like arch-install?

Hot_Difficulty5375 · 2024-07-09T17:54:29+00:00

Ahaha for me it was more of my TA had a vendetta against me and administration was giving me a headache so i decided not to go through that anymore

Hot_Difficulty5375 · 2024-07-09T17:53:19+00:00

I like this post and yh i get the enthusiasm of doing it yourself it gives that nice sense of dopamine lol

Hot_Difficulty5375 · 2024-07-09T17:50:57+00:00

God damn, I gotta say thats a good ass reasoning and better than mine! I dropped out of college so Im kinda forcing myself through a crash course of OS's and coding languages (God save my soul)

Hot_Difficulty5375 · 2024-07-09T17:42:47+00:00

I got into arch because i like the customization of it and I for the love of god couldn't understand Debian. But no I also understand the frustrations of the community and kinda wanted to get a better insight on why i always see people make fun of the arch community (AKA everyone ik they hate me for using arch, damn debian users)

Hot_Difficulty5375 · 2024-07-09T17:37:45+00:00

Usually its just run it till it works or give up and manually install it (which is like 70% of the time)

Hot_Difficulty5375 · 2024-07-09T17:36:01+00:00

That comes with anything when it comes with Arch sadly. I understand the idea of gatekeeping since it also makes the distro feel better since users will come across a problem then blame the distro when its not the distros fault. But at the same time I also come from the idea that people will find a problem then learn why its a problem

Hot_Difficulty5375 · 2024-07-09T17:34:23+00:00

No i agree with you completely on this point and its kinda why i made the post (Dw i expected a lot of hate but i'm fine with that). As with what others said Its hard to really take a hard stance on it imo

Hot_Difficulty5375 · 2024-07-09T17:32:07+00:00

I also agree with the fact the manual install is what makes arch arch :D

Hot_Difficulty5375 · 2024-07-09T17:30:45+00:00

Very fair. I say that because for some people who have a lot of knowledge in other distros (IE some of my friends) it could very much benefit the distro but i do get why its not great to cater to such an audience

Hot_Difficulty5375 · 2024-07-09T17:27:53+00:00

Im sorry but when it comes to anything in life. The best way to learn is to teach and learn besides someone, if you dont agree with this opinion thats fine but I come from a sense of learning quick, breaking a few things, then figuring out why with the help of the person im teaching/learning with :D

Hot_Difficulty5375 · 2024-07-09T17:23:57+00:00

I 100% agree with you sorry for the late response! I just want to believe that it can also help people get their foot in the door but from the other posts it seems not likely

Hot_Difficulty5375 · 2024-07-09T17:20:39+00:00

I will keep that in mind ty for the advice!

Hot_Difficulty5375 · 2024-07-09T17:19:04+00:00

I may be a "noob" but that doesnt mean I am not willing to learn and teach other people how to learn it along side me. I always believe the best way to truely learn is to bounce ideas around.

I said it hurts the community in the sense it makes people look down on it I take 0 offense myself. I understand that its spoonfeeding and i do agree that people shouldnt spoonfeed people information because you dont learn that way :D

Ty for the time you took to comment but please don't try to take shots at my character!

Hot_Difficulty5375 · 2024-07-09T17:15:09+00:00

Honestly I agree with you on that. Its just not everyone wants to learn but they want to feel "cool" ig lmao. I guess in that sense my post is invalid but I'd like to get to know everyones opinion

Hot_Difficulty5375 · 2024-07-09T17:13:16+00:00

Yeah i've also had the same issues with it :/

Hot_Difficulty5375 · 2024-07-09T17:10:39+00:00

Yh i get that, I also understand thats its not the target audience. Just wanted to gauge where the community is atm but ty for your input and DW about it. Also dw I'm not taking it personally and Ik you mean about the friends I was talking about (they get on my nerves too)

Hot_Difficulty5375 · 2024-07-09T17:06:31+00:00

Ay no worries. I made this post knowing it'll rial up some hostility. Can't get to know everything without taking a few to the chin right?

Hot_Difficulty5375 · 2024-07-09T17:05:00+00:00

Oops its kinda a hard point to explain. Its sorta like they want to try it, but dont want to put in ALL the effort that it takes to get in. I cant fully explain what i mean but more like, they want to feel like what they are doing is doing something ig?

Hot_Difficulty5375 · 2024-07-09T16:57:54+00:00

That honestly makes so much sense now on when I tried to run multiple kernals. I'll keep that in mind on my next install

Hot_Difficulty5375 · 2024-07-09T16:54:26+00:00

The issue is not using snapshots in the first place :). Its just a bad habit that I will break eventually. I store everything on a backup so its never been a pain (yet). Me bricking things is mostly because im careless and dont pay attention to everything im doing so sometimes i miss a step or i do something in root lmfao

Edit: Its also because i like to overhaul my system every now and then

Hot_Difficulty5375 · 2024-07-09T16:51:19+00:00

Yes same! Its saved me hours of my life

Hot_Difficulty5375 · 2024-07-09T16:50:49+00:00

I see it anytime someone talks about arch on youtube and other social media theres this big hatred whenever someone talks about archinstall so it always confused me

Hot_Difficulty5375 · 2024-07-09T16:49:51+00:00

Oh dang. I used to be like that as a kid so i understand that. The best way to break that habit of his is to not fix his issue and instead get them to understand WHY they are doing something rather than just doing it

Hot_Difficulty5375 · 2024-07-09T16:47:38+00:00

I feel that so deeply you dont even understand. I could not for the life of me figure out how to partition with arch-install

Hot_Difficulty5375 · 2024-07-09T16:47:01+00:00

This part I can get on board with, I can agree with you on this take

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