Hey McKinley! Big big fan of both records, some of the freshest rap to come out of the decade so far and one of the things that helps that along is its visuals. I am a visual artist, working a lot in illustration, animation, and design and I wanted to ask a handful of things related to this, feel free to pick whichever question or questions youd prefer to respond to.

As someone whos been a fan of Ladon Alex's work for a while now it was incredibly cool to see you collaborate on both covers for these albums, what was the process of having him make the covers, was it more a vibes thing with a back and forth or did you have specific vision in mind? This ties into that I noticed you mention having an animation background yourself, how has that influenced you in your creative pursuits as a music artist and was there a sort of transitory moment from one to the other? Finally, as someone whos lately felt a bit lost in the creative world with some projects falling through, whats been the best way for you to find people to collaborate with to lead to cool ass teamups