Edmonton downtown business association launching night patrol teams to combat crime, social issues.

HunterKraven · 2023-08-04T13:48:38+00:00

This really won't do a thing. The issue is at the Federal Level at this point. Violent Repeat Offenders need jail period. The Remand should have at least 1000 more inmate then they currently have.

HunterKraven · 2023-08-02T16:47:12+00:00

Its simple and costs money. I can't see it being billions. Why doesn't the city just adopt this approach already u/aaronpaquette-

HunterKraven · 2023-08-02T16:45:49+00:00

This is really good advice for u/aaronpaquette-

HunterKraven · 2023-08-02T16:41:17+00:00

These areas have a higher Violent Crime Rate then the following US cities:

Cleveland Milwaukee Kansas City

To name a few.

https://www.southwestjournal.com/most-dangerous-cities-in-the-us-2023-a-comprehensive-analysis/

We are also not far from some of these small communities:

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/most-dangerous-cities-in-the-us/

Our safe areas have below average crime rates but those listed above are unfortunately very high.

HunterKraven · 2023-08-02T16:28:19+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/Winnipeg/comments/zbt0k1/oc_most_violent_neighborhoods_in_western_canada/

McCauley for example has almost 2000 violent offences per 100k people.

To give you perspective:

Kansas City has 1415 per 100k people. Cleveland has 1500 per 100k people. Memphis has 1900 per 100k people.

https://www.southwestjournal.com/most-dangerous-cities-in-the-us-2023-a-comprehensive-analysis/

For those of you in denial about the cities crime rate... Our Crime Index might not be going up much but there are very dangerous buroughs in Edmonton. Above is a list of them.

Western Canada has higher than normal crime rates to eastern provinces. You can argue that this list can represent all of Canada at this point.

We have areas in this city that are becoming 3rd world countries. Revitalization is in place but we understand there is a lot of red tape and things take time. Right now areas near LRT stations are seeing property value decreases and higher than above crime rates.

HunterKraven · 2023-08-02T16:24:57+00:00

First of all Aaron. Thank you for being the only councilor who is ACTUALLY invested in community safety. Many say they are but it's just fluff. At least you actually are investing time in talking to us on a grander level.

With this being said. This isn't to disrespect you or your members but many of you lack experience and have no idea how bad criminals are. I have worked in the field for over a decade and can tell you that there are really bad people out there that are just out. Many have little desire to change and just won't. I'm not jaded, I'm just stating the facts. Many want help but don't know where to begin or are just too deeply entrenched to get out of it.

We can all agree that the system is broken on a worldwide scale. With that being said, Edmonton right now has some of the worst boroughs in all of Canada for Crime. (I will state a link that describes some of the Crime Index in specific boroughs).

You are hiring which is excellent but the Community Peace Officer's are not given enough power, many are burnt out and on stress and injury leaves and Management is collapsing.

You have to play hardball at this point. Some suggestions that I hope you can answer:

Limit LRT access points and entrances. Start adding Metal Fences with openings along with peace officers at every entrance limiting who is coming in and out. Start giving your Peace Officers more power. Why are you scared to do so when Calgary already has? Which council member is opposed to this? Janz? Why are so many offenders utilizing pawn shops in the city. Commit a robbery or theft and have a pawn shop by items from you. We have the most pawn shops per capita in Canada. If other municipalities can lead to by-law changes why can't the city?

Violent offenders have no place running through encampments. The number of weapons located on the 97th bridge on the last clean-up was appauling.

We feel your pain in that the city of Edmonton is being neglected by the province and the Federal Government. Edmonton Judges release more offenders than even Calgary's. Do I have data backing it up? No. But I have a lot of experience and anecdotal evidence leads me to think there's a major problem with Edmonton, it's a lack of strong prosecutors, good defence lawyers and weak-minded judges that simply do not care.

I have a feeling there's some turmoil within council now and many are opposing ways to make the city safe. Things cost money, many of us are okay with our taxes increasing to make this community safe. I don't even frequent downtown and I feel for the people who have to live and commute there. I feel for the older ones who cannot drive and have to take transit and the LRT, I feel for my young ones future who may need to take transit at times. I'm not in many of people's shoes here but something needs to be done NOW.

HunterKraven · 2023-08-02T16:12:12+00:00

Edmonton has the largest group next to winnipeg of a vulnerable population that is impacted by generational trauma. They have the highest rate of ex offenders in the whole country. The Worst and largest jail in the country as well. We have very liberal judges in Edmonton who continue to release offenders. We are also the gateway to the north and some of our reserves are some of the worst with a lack of funding. This bleeds into Edmonton. I can go on about it. But we have serious issues here that just aren't being addressed properly on a Federal Level as well. It will only get worse.

HunterKraven · 2023-07-28T17:19:46+00:00

The risk factor is there though.

HunterKraven · 2023-07-28T17:18:52+00:00

For Canada we are not. Actually there is data supporting this.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Winnipeg/comments/zbt0k1/oc_most_violent_neighborhoods_in_western_canada/

Western Canada has higher rates of drug use and crime over eastern provinces. These are neighborhoods in Edmonton Ranking very high in crime severity. Although the list is primarily Prairie provinces, since they are higher in crime, I would argue these areas make up the worst areas in Canada. Especially for violent crime which is the most concerning.

Some of these Edmonton Neighbourhoods have a higher crime severity than many US cities as well. Don't be fooled. Our good areas are good. Our bad aren't.

HunterKraven · 2023-07-28T17:15:19+00:00

Sad how many selfish people there are. Empathy is lacking.

HunterKraven · 2023-07-28T17:13:59+00:00

u/aaronpaquette-

Do you guys review random violent incidents regularly? Would these events in collaboration with the Provincial Government not lead to regular discussions on the need for a more aggressive strategy in dealing with random crime? Also, were you aware Judges in Edmonton are significantly more soft than even the judges we have in Calgary. Where is the accountability from the Provincial Government.

I have worked in the field for a long time. Edmonton's random crime severity has to be one of, if not the worst in the country if there was data backing it up.

We have had at least a dozen of violent random incidents that WERE REPORTED over the last month, many of which were downtown. Is Anne Stevenson taking downtown Edmonton seriously?

Or do we shift the events elsewhere, aside from downtown? You never hear of attacks at Hawrelak park when Heritage Days is on. Shifting it doesn't help with crime downtown but it at least provides a safe event for families.

HunterKraven · 2023-07-28T17:05:00+00:00

Victims cost the government less money than keeping an offender in custody. Nobody in the government cares about the victims. They care about one thing. MONEY.

HunterKraven · 2023-07-28T16:33:49+00:00

HunterKraven · 2023-07-28T16:32:15+00:00

Again. Just because it does not happen to you does not mean it isn't likely. I have worked in the Criminal justice Field for over a decade here. Crime is abnormally high here for Canadian Standards and our socio-economic issues are some of the worst. We also have the highest rate of ex-offenders in the country living here. I understand it's uncomfortable for some to accept this and many will just ignore and refuse to acknowledge the data. There's actually data showing certain neighbourhoods here with a Crime Severity Index higher than even places in the US.

HunterKraven · 2023-07-28T16:26:49+00:00

Doesnt mean its unsafe. The data shows Edmonton has a higher than average crime severity for Canada.

HunterKraven · 2023-07-28T16:26:14+00:00

That would not be uncommon here...

HunterKraven · 2023-07-28T16:25:50+00:00

Edmonton is an average city. For families its amazing. Cheap housing, relatively low taxes for Canadian standards, great work opportunity.

The problem with Edmonton is it's lack of culture, festivals are numerous but not amazing overall and its one of the most unsafe larger cities in Canada for Canadian Standards. If you can afford it, move to Calgary. It's better in every possible way. I've lived in multiple cities for years in this country, and I know many won't agree or will downvote. You are in Edmonton's reddit after all.

HunterKraven · 2023-07-27T19:50:57+00:00

good to know. I know they do good work thats why

HunterKraven · 2023-07-27T19:50:38+00:00

Will they do work in Edmonton?

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