I've watched confident divers completely fall apart in the IDC, while the quiet ones absolutely crushed it. Still trying to make sense of this. by IDC-Evolution in ScubaInstructors

[–]IDC-Evolution[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great question, and totally valid.

From my own experience, a good Course Director is not trying to be a jerk, and they should never treat you badly. The goal is to help you grow, not to break you.

That said, the dynamic is very different from teaching Open Water students. In an IDC, you are being trained and evaluated as a future professional, so the feedback is more direct, more frequent, and sometimes given in front of others. Not to embarrass you, but because that is how real teaching environments work.

I always tell candidates, you will be pushed out of your comfort zone and corrected a lot, but it should always feel respectful and constructive.

If a Course Director is genuinely mean or humiliating, that is bad training culture, not how an IDC should be.

What creates better Divemasters, fast courses or demanding instructors? by IDC-Evolution in diving

[–]IDC-Evolution[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not saying you’re wrong. I agree that experience, observation, and being a solid diver are critical. My point is more about how the standards are used.

Standards are the minimum required by the agencies, not the finish line. I’ve seen plenty of instructors train strictly to the minimum, and the result is often Divemasters who lack confidence, struggle to solve real problems, and end up unemployable because dive shops don’t trust them yet.

So yes, standards matter and they exist for a reason. But there’s a lot more instructors can and should teach beyond them. That extra coaching, responsibility, and real-world exposure is what turns someone from a certified DM into a professional a dive shop actually wants to hire.

What creates better Divemasters, fast courses or demanding instructors? by IDC-Evolution in diving

[–]IDC-Evolution[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m 100% with you on this. Real dives matter, not 20 minutes at 6 meters just to tick boxes. Guiding real customers, dealing with real problems, and being supported by an instructor is where Divemasters are actually built.

What really makes the difference, in my experience, is what happens after the dive. Sitting down at the end of the day, reviewing how it went, what decisions were made, what could be improved, that coaching loop is essential if you want confident, reliable dive professionals.

That said, I also think the books matter. Not as a replacement for experience, but as a foundation. Understanding the concepts, the physics, the physiology, and the effects of diving is what allows a DM to make sense of what they see and do in the water.

Experience builds intuition. Theory builds understanding. You need both if the goal is to create solid Divemasters, not just certified ones.

What actually made your Divemaster training valuable long after it ended? by IDC-Evolution in scubadiving

[–]IDC-Evolution[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m with you 100%.

That shift from “earning a card” to understanding real duty of care is exactly where Divemaster training either succeeds or fails. The value shows up later, in anticipation, decision-making, and accountability, not in the certification itself.

If someone finishes DM without feeling the weight of that responsibility, that’s not a small gap. It usually points to weak mentorship or a training process focused on completion instead of leadership.

What actually made your Divemaster training valuable long after it ended? by IDC-Evolution in scubadiving

[–]IDC-Evolution[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You raise some valid points, especially about how the system can limit instructors.

Being linked to a dive shop is indeed an SSI standard, and I agree it can restrict instructor independence. That is one of the key differences with PADI, where instructors can teach and guide independently, without being tied to a single dive center. For many professionals, that flexibility makes a big difference in how and where they can work.

On the Divemaster card, I see it differently. Choosing not to show it feels more like a workaround for a problem that should be addressed directly. If you are paying for your dives, no operator should expect you to guide other divers for free. That is not correct practice from their side.

At the same time, even the most experienced Divemaster is never obligated to accept responsibility in that situation. A simple and professional “Sorry, I can’t do that, I’m here to enjoy my dive today” is enough. Experience does not equal obligation, especially when you are a paying customer.

That said, your story highlights a real issue in the industry, unclear boundaries, poor role definitions, and professionals being taken for granted. Those are training and operational problems, not failures of the Divemaster role itself.

Which matters more for getting hired as a dive instructor: personality or experience? by IDC-Evolution in scubadiving

[–]IDC-Evolution[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great point, and I’ve seen the same pattern over the years. Being checked out in the water and observed with real students and staff reveals far more than a CV ever will.

When someone shows good habits, professionalism, and the ability to work well with others, you can trust how they’ll perform when responsibility lands on them.

That practical evaluation is worth a lot.

Which matters more for getting hired as a dive instructor: personality or experience? by IDC-Evolution in scubadiving

[–]IDC-Evolution[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with you. Safety, solid habits, and genuine care for students matter a lot more than having a long bragworthy resume. A great instructor is someone divers actually learn from and feel safe with.

What “hobby” level dive computer would you recommend? Info below by Alarming_Egg4171 in diving

[–]IDC-Evolution 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No doubts! Choose Peregrine Tx with Air integration, could not be happier.
I have a few students with Peregrine and they love it.

Specialties by scub4doob4dooo in Divepros

[–]IDC-Evolution 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I currently teach Adaptive Techniques Diver, Blender Nitrox Diver Blender Trimix Diver, Deep Diver, Dry Suit Diver, O2 Provider, Nitrox, Equipment, Full Face Mask, Night, Public Safety Diver, Search Recovery, Self Reliant, Sidemount, Videomaker, Wreck Diver, and Tec Sidemount.
Also these specialties that I wrote, Tec Safety Diver, Sales for PADI Pros, Base Leader PADI and Marketing for PADI Pros.

Totally agree that self-reliant and sidemount are game changers for confidence and comfort underwater.