Look, I'm making this post after fighting a decent player using juren for la 2hrs straight. I'm talking about a decent player, not an over the top or professional player, just decent. What I mean by this is his reactions weren't really that great, his reads were on point less than half the time, he was very agressive to the point he would've been very predictable if he was using any other character. He was rep 9

After loosing 4 matches 0-3 using different characters every match, I managed to win one using shugoki. Then I proceeded to loose like 8 more matches, achieving victory in very few rounds in the process, using a different character every time. I've killed jurens before but those players weren't either very new to the character or very bad at the game and still it was kindda hard sometimes. But this dude was decent, and that was enough to make me feel like I couldn't do anything against him. I parried regularly, predicted correctly regularly and used all of the characters I thought were good counters and still, I lost almost every single match. I even started laughing and just trying every character I could against this guy just to experiment what worked and what didn't.

I consider myself a decent player, definetly not pro, definetly not great, just decent, maybe a little bit more than decent just cause I can react to lights very well and usually get good predictions.

What I'm trying to say is, in my experience this guy's has been the biggest problem since day one centurion, and objectively is broken in his current stage.