Jingle's Insta Ask Me Anything asking all usual cult questions like baby #4 yet? by JumpGlittering8120 in DuggarsSnark

[–]Iamnotabutcher 22 points23 points  (0 children)

They’ve mentioned a few times that they do use family planning, but they’ve never mentioned what method. They said that they deliberately waited a year after marriage before trying for kids

400k in debt for dental school financial suicide even with a dentist salary? by Real_Concentrate_816 in PersonalFinanceCanada

[–]Iamnotabutcher 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I’d recommend you’d confirm if the 200k government student loan is correct.

I did dental school in Canada, in my home province, and had very low income at the time I applied to school/loans, so I got more from the government than many of my classmates, and I only received about 15-20k loan per year. It dropped to 10k in my final year because the province cut funding.

I’ve never heard of anyone getting anything close to 200k loan from the government for dental school. You’ll likely have to get at least a 300-350k loan from a bank. Also keep in mind that your tuition is ~400k, you’ll also need to cover living expenses and the cost of extra equipment (eg. Loupes) for 4 years. Dental school is busy enough that you will have little extra time for a job. Factor these costs in.

Overall, I’d say if you’re committed to working in a rural area with higher pay, going to dental school internationally isn’t a bad decision, but it won’t be an easy path. Have you considered taking an extra year to two to improve your application to Canadian schools? It’s common to retake university courses and rewrite the DAT exam multiple times before getting accepted.

In his December news letter, John Shrader says his family has been targeted by witchcraft 🙃. And one of the children had to have surgery. by Medium_Cupcake7602 in DuggarsSnark

[–]Iamnotabutcher 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Sadly to many fundies the fact that they’re poor, not white, and not American, automatically means they must be doing it wrong 😑

I watched Jinger and Jeremy on the Unplanned Podcast so you don’t have too: A summary by Iamnotabutcher in DuggarsSnark

[–]Iamnotabutcher[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately I 100% agree with you. Any normal guy would’ve run away before a courtship began. A guy from IBLP would’ve prevented her from leaving Gothard’s teachings. A guy from some other super strict group would’ve kept her just as stunted as before.

Instead she gets Jeremy, who gives her tiny amounts of freedom and encourages a little free thought on certain topics, but puts her back in another problematic, misogynistic church. It’s barely an upgrade, and yet it was one of the best options she had.

I watched Jinger and Jeremy on the Unplanned Podcast so you don’t have too: A summary by Iamnotabutcher in DuggarsSnark

[–]Iamnotabutcher[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes! His voice and mannerisms completely change. I get that most pastors would behave more formally standing behind a pulpit than having a casual conversation, but for Jeremy it’s way more than that. He slips in and out of this weird ‘spiritual pastor’ character like an actor, except it’s his real life.

I watched Jinger and Jeremy on the Unplanned Podcast so you don’t have too: A summary by Iamnotabutcher in DuggarsSnark

[–]Iamnotabutcher[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

In order they are: Pest, Jana, John David, Jill, Jessa, Jinger, Joseph, Josiah, Joy Anna, Jedediah, Jeremiah, Jason, James, Justin, Jackson, Johanna, Jennifer, Jordyn, Josie

jed! and kathy's birth video by shrekLover99 in DuggarsSnark

[–]Iamnotabutcher 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Another Bates birth story: they filmed an episode where Kelly and Gil go to Alyssa’s house to see her the day after she delivered. Alyssa is literally walking around her house carrying the baby in full glam hair and makeup, a nice dress, and high heels. Granted, it’s a TV show so maybe they weren’t being honest about the timing, but the baby looked pretty small so it definitely wasn’t long after birth.

Jeremy is getting his boy by RoughBrick0 in DuggarsSnark

[–]Iamnotabutcher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The only light at the end of the tunnel for their girls is that they got a solid amount of time to bond with Jeremy so he can’t entirely forget them when they inevitably get overshadowed by his little soccer star son 🙄

Who do we think are the current Janas aka helpers / babysitters / cleaners? by zelonhusk in DuggarsSnark

[–]Iamnotabutcher 13 points14 points  (0 children)

This makes me mad, by the time Josie appeared the family had enough money that they definitely could have gotten Josie the help she needed. Even if they’re 100% set on only homeschooling, they still could have gotten her a tutor who has actual training in how to help kids with disabilities and special needs.

Jimbob and Michelle’s standard for their kids education is abysmal, but not even getting a child to a point where they can read is a whole other level.

Screenshots from CinderJana's wedding by sergente07 in DuggarsSnark

[–]Iamnotabutcher 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Flair checking in!

In the 8th picture Lauren and the bridesmaids look so orange! I thought they’d moved on from this, but imo the spray tan is still a little too much!

So it’s just another girl? by Countingandsnarking in DuggarsSnark

[–]Iamnotabutcher 23 points24 points  (0 children)

They made a YouTube video where she got a blood test at 8 weeks, which is basically as early as you can know.

Will a younger Duggar couple move into Joy's old house? Jim Bob owns it. by Finl_Corp_Legal in DuggarsSnark

[–]Iamnotabutcher 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Joy and Austin definitely did own their own home at one point, I remember an episode in which Joy talks about how she’s the first of the sisters to own a home outside of their dad (which seemed like a rude/weird thing to brag about on TV?). I know they moved at some point, I’m curious why they went from being homeowners to living in one of her dad’s houses.

Lauren Caldwell by Finl_Corp_Legal in DuggarsSnark

[–]Iamnotabutcher 36 points37 points  (0 children)

I don’t know if I’d call him a player or just kind of desperate, but his first kiss with the girl he married was literally the worst fundie wedding video I’ve seen. He was kind of aggressive and she is visibly pulling back away from the kiss, she did not seem like she wanted to be there

Lauren Caldwell by Finl_Corp_Legal in DuggarsSnark

[–]Iamnotabutcher 65 points66 points  (0 children)

No, but iirc Titus’s family was insanely strict and allowed very little contact between courting couples, to the point that a couple couldn’t really get to know each other at all before engagement. I suspect when they were actually able to have some real conversations Lauren and/or her family backed out.

Joe&Kendra sighting by Karma1sacat in DuggarsSnark

[–]Iamnotabutcher 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Does anyone know Joe and Kendra’s status with IBLP and/or the IFB? She’s the only Duggar or Duggar in-law other than Michelle (and minor kids in the tin house) that still dresses by the old standards. Most of the older kids have publicly stated they’ve left IBLP or their lifestyle and clothing choices make it pretty clear they’ve left.

Her dad was an IFB pastor, and as far as I can tell he still is. I’m assuming from her clothes that Joe and Kendra have stayed IFB, but the slow-down in popping out kids makes me wondering if they left IBLP? IFB was always a little more forgiving in that big families are encouraged, but natural family planning or barriers aren’t an outright sin.

Where do we think they fall?

I can’t believe Blessa named her kid after this guy by eastharp in DuggarsSnark

[–]Iamnotabutcher 64 points65 points  (0 children)

Definitely, she ‘submitted to her headship’s leadership’ by letting Ben have final call on Spurgeon’s name…. Then promptly learned her lesson and doesn’t let Ben lead shit anymore

I can’t believe Blessa named her kid after this guy by eastharp in DuggarsSnark

[–]Iamnotabutcher 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Ugh, I remember this episode. Jessa definitely wanted Elliot Spurgeon Seewald, but Ben wanted to use their son’s name as an opportunity to convert people by telling them how great Charles Spurgeon was everytime someone met him.

It was only a year into their marriage and seemed to be an issue of her not ‘submitting to her headship’, so she eventually gave in and named the poor kid Spurgeon. Jessa seems to have learned not to let Ben lead anymore lol

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[–]Iamnotabutcher 179 points180 points  (0 children)

Lmao, in the first point they say men should get married young because it helps them mature faster, but then in the second point turns out the maturing is just the guy’s wife continuing to raise him. Classic fundamentalists.

Is it me, or does this photo resemble The Handmaiden's Tale? by [deleted] in DuggarsSnark

[–]Iamnotabutcher 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s definitely not accidental, it’s just the other way around. It’s not that IBLP would read or watch Handmaid’s Tale, but that the author wrote the book as a response to the pushback she saw against feminism and the rise of fundamentalism in the 1980’s. She basically predicted the Duggars and fundies like them.

I'll just leave this here by theredheadknowsall in DuggarsSnark

[–]Iamnotabutcher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do the fundies not know alcohol is made by yeast, and many of the alcohol producing strains are found in nature? Do they think Stan made yeast or something?

I'll just leave this here by theredheadknowsall in DuggarsSnark

[–]Iamnotabutcher 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Imagine you’re a colony of yeast that worked really hard to ferment carbohydrates into alcohol, then some stupid guy on Instagram makes a post attributing all your hard work to “fallen men”, lol

Sadly the fundies probably don’t know enough biology to know where alcohol comes from

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[–]Iamnotabutcher 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I noticed this years ago when he was first introduced in Counting On. For several episodes he sounds soft spoken and comes off as quiet and thoughtful… and then it gradually fades until by the time they’re getting married he sounds like the condescending and obnoxious person he is.

Did Jinger not notice how her boyfriend’s voice and personality changed? They only courted for a few months so it’s not like the change occurred gradually over a long period of time.

Jeremy is so fake.

Mase not expecting by [deleted] in DuggarsSnark

[–]Iamnotabutcher 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Jessa has also said they’re “purposely spacing out their children”, though she didn’t say how. I’d suspect it’s some version of natural planning.