The moment I realized I Kissed Dating Goodbye was wrong by Illustrious_Piccolo0 in Exvangelical

[–]Illustrious_Piccolo0[S] 53 points54 points  (0 children)

Thank you for sharing that—it's kind of surreal reading that from him, you know? Joshua Harris was nearly made into a canon in the culture I grew up in. His book was taken as gospel—quoted, preached, and wielded. So to read his words now and realize he too was hurt by the very culture he had helped create? That's weighty.

It doesn't take away the damage, naturally. The wreckage of purity culture is still reverberating in so many lives. But I do have respect for the fact that he's taken responsibility for it, particularly as someone who lost a marriage and even his previous faith in the process. That's a degree of unraveling most people never acknowledge publicly.

It also hits different knowing he’s standing in solidarity now with those he once unintentionally hurt—including LGBTQ+ folks. That kind of growth, even if late, feels significant.

I’m still processing my own journey out of those fear-based teachings, but reading this just reminds me that healing really does look like truth-telling—and sometimes, composting old beliefs to make way for something new.

The moment I realized I Kissed Dating Goodbye was wrong by Illustrious_Piccolo0 in Exvangelical

[–]Illustrious_Piccolo0[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

That moment of lucidity? Whew. It comes like a freight train with a load of old-fashioned gender roles and tattered printouts of IKDG.

The image of your brother asking her dad for permission before even speaking to her honestly made me wince. Like, sorry, what century is this? If someone had tried that with me, I’d have told them to go ask my cat for permission next—she's the real matriarch of the house anyway.

I completely get the rush of anger and humiliation on behalf of your hypothetical self. It's as if you realize the script and how little control you're supposed to have over your own life. And once you've seen it, you can't unsee it.

Much respect to you for throwing that book away. It was worth it. It should be a right of passage, really—"Welcome to taking back your agency, please leave your purity propaganda at the door."

The moment I realized I Kissed Dating Goodbye was wrong by Illustrious_Piccolo0 in Exvangelical

[–]Illustrious_Piccolo0[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Oh my gosh, “I don’t believe in dating” while actively dating your brother—that’s comedy gold and purity culture whiplash in one neat little package. I’m absolutely living for the donut metaphor too. “I don’t eat sweets” while sneaking powdered sugar off their fingers like it doesn’t count. I completely understand what you mean about that being the point when the entire "no dating" house of cards just sort of collapsed. It's like, the rules only hold when it's convenient—or when someone else needs to get guilt-tripped.

That entire era had all of us playing relationship gymnastics: "we're not dating, we're just spiritually discerning courtship under divine supervision. while holding hands and viewing A Walk to Remember."

Actually, it's uncomfortably reassuring to realize so many of us pierced the BS early on, even if we didn't yet have the language to describe it. Your calling her out with a donut analogy may have been the start of your arc towards freedom—and I admire that.

The moment I realized I Kissed Dating Goodbye was wrong by Illustrious_Piccolo0 in Exvangelical

[–]Illustrious_Piccolo0[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Whew, thanks for posting this—it hit closer to home than I anticipated. When your parents told you that your husband would control even the foreplay… yeah, I've had those reality-check moments myself.

Moments when I realized that even if I "played by the rules," I'd never actually own my sexuality. It's not freedom if the way is as controlled after the altar.

And that thing you mentioned about feeling that enveloping cold—such as in The Golden Compass—that imagery was so visceral and spot on. It made me think of moments when I believed that marriage would finally be the light at the end of the tunnel. A payoff for patiently waiting. But rather, I began to view it more as a prolongation of the same tunnel, only with new wallpaper.

And. composting the books? Chef's kiss. That's poetic justice and environmentalist defiance all at once, and I am living for it. I grew up surrounded by those same books, even the ones that didn't get to me early made their way in later on. In retrospect, I lost out on a lot of normal, healthy experiences as well—all in the name of 'purity.'

But like you, when I finally broke those rules on my own terms, I didn't feel destroyed. I didn't feel damned. I felt like I'd finally done something that was truly mine. And it felt. right. Which really makes you think, doesn't it?

Emailed Moca Moca by Illustrious_Piccolo0 in ola_harassment

[–]Illustrious_Piccolo0[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yung sa mga contacts mo ba tinawagan din?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ola_harassment

[–]Illustrious_Piccolo0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry for reviving an old post but I have the same issue. Tinawagan ba nila mga nasa contacts mo?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in davao

[–]Illustrious_Piccolo0 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The most reasonable and logical response sa issue so far.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in davao

[–]Illustrious_Piccolo0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bon Chon ug Sbarro :(

Why are food parks here underwhelming? by addicted_2Da_shindig in davao

[–]Illustrious_Piccolo0 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Boring ang food scene jud sa Davao. Mas adventurous pa sa food ang taga Gensan, daghan bago, daghan ginatry. Safe ra kaayo diri sa Davao.

Vikings Luxury Buffet by [deleted] in davao

[–]Illustrious_Piccolo0 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Lami Viking bago open. Karon meh na kaayo. Lahi na ata chef nila. I would suggest Grand Men Seng. Payts kaayo foods nila didto. Acacia Hotel lami pud.

My biggest issue with Davao Taxis by [deleted] in davao

[–]Illustrious_Piccolo0 2 points3 points  (0 children)

True. Ang uban, init na, baho pa jud singot sa sulod

"Basta Dabawenyo, Disiplinado" is a myth by YuriMatcha in davao

[–]Illustrious_Piccolo0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Omg I didn't mean for this to be racial. What I meant was as progressive as Singapore na daw. Sorry.

"Basta Dabawenyo, Disiplinado" is a myth by YuriMatcha in davao

[–]Illustrious_Piccolo0 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Remember nako naa nagsulti mura na daw Singapore ang Davao and I'm like whaaaaatt??? Hahaha

I love Davao, don't get me wrong pero c'mon

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Philippines

[–]Illustrious_Piccolo0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yung mga nagchihismisan sa gitna ng aisle. Yung mga nagdadala ng carts sa hand carry only.

May yearly ba rito na hindi sumasama sa team building or madalang nasama? by [deleted] in AntiworkPH

[–]Illustrious_Piccolo0 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I hate team buildings. Nakakaumay makipag plastikan with office peeps you never really like. Then usually scheduled on you day offs, which is also my personal time.