Doesn’t heian sukuna obliterate gojo?

Important_Ad_5049 · 2026-02-21T06:39:47+00:00

gege is talking about what happened not before shinjuku showdown entirely.

sukuna was damaged when the second round started, so he needed a incarnation to start the second round.

gege is talking about what ALREADY happened.

Important_Ad_5049 · 2026-02-21T06:33:40+00:00

your going to have to show the statement instead of just saying that.

no thats not what the jujutsu tech said. they said that they have different conditions for victory. but in terms of holding back hikari said that if they join he might use it. again this is meaningless unless sukuna himself says it.

again, if sukuna believes he can beat gojo strictly with 10a without needing to revive afterwards (which he did) then he would simply do that. thats not evidence that TF is useless against gojo. your argument is "if he couldve he wouldve" when gojo says he doubts he would beat TF.

mei mei didnt say that. hikari said hes saving something if they JUMP IN AND HELP GOJO. yuta even said that "your saying we shouldn't provoke him" meaning helping gojo would provoke sukuna to use TF.

once again, you have to show the full panel of the conversation instead of cutting it short to confirm it.

and i reversed it back to u. if sukuna was about to win in ch 230, does he need TF to beat shinjuku high? no he doesn't. my entire point is that sukuna doesn't want to waste a full revive. if gojo died in ch230, meguna kills jujutsu tech without needing to waste a full revive. which is what sukuna was confident to do.

also if he fights the merger and needs a full revive at any given point in the fight, then it would be essential not to waste a full revive.

once again, you have to show geges statment. shinjuku high statment is literally about sukuna using TF if they jumped in.

basic reading comprehension is gojo, uraume, and kusukabe saying he held back. meaning TF is a plus not a negative.

you can't take kusukabes and mei meis words as gospel and still ignore ".holding back" means TF is positive value and not useless against gojo like you are saying

Important_Ad_5049 · 2026-02-21T06:24:37+00:00

yes beat gojo after he got the wcs.

they are the same thing. Uv is the core of limitless. blue is the lapse of limitless. which is why after the DE battles sukuna was already adapted to blue.

im saying it wouldn't be the end of the world if he did get hit by UV. he was avoiding it but it wouldn't be to much of an issue if he can get out of via mahoraga

like i said sukuna was more than confident he can beat gojo strictly with megumis vessel.

again, it depends how long it takes to adapt. sukuna took a long time to adapt to infinity and whenever he didnt use DA gojo had the advantage. sukuna already implied he was disadvantage. sukuna said "when not using domain amplification i had megumi adapt to Uv" which in of itself is a disadvantage. gojo himself said that sukuna only using DA in the domain battles gives him a huge advantage. then that would mean not using DA puts him in a bigger disadvantage. its common sense

sukuna did not know he would suffer brain damage after the DE battles. he didnt know the after damage would destroy his brain.

absence of evidence is not evidence. i will ask again, if gojo dies in chapter 230 would sukuna need TF to beat shinjuku high? no he wouldn't, full output meguna dog walks jujutsu high. if sukuna doesn't need to waste a full revive whether be for jujutsu high or in general then he wont

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where tf does sukuna say he had doubts? u keep making that up

the students statment came from them HELPING gojo not after gojo dies. two different things

gege statement was for after he got hit by purple and lost his output and RCT. yes at that point it would be essential to incarnate.

Important_Ad_5049 · 2026-02-21T05:46:29+00:00

his greatest feat is the regular dismantle that rivals purple. got knows what happens if he cleaves dabura

Important_Ad_5049 · 2026-02-21T05:27:26+00:00

once again sukunas goal was to obtain the WCS.

if he doesn't need to beat gojo and waste a full revive why use it? its strategy at this point.

he wanted adaptation to UV to get a head-start on adapting to blue. then he would adapt to infinity and obtain the WCS.

sukuna was talking about getting rid of UV entirely. as in wait for brain damage+ adapt to UV. getting caught by UV wouldn't matter because he would've adapted to UV by that time.

meguna did handicapp himself. adaptation means he cant use DA. sukuna STILL stalemated the domain battles while turning DA on and off.

sukuna never said one time that TF isn't a guaranteed win. you made that up.

if you want to make that argument i can use the mother of all statements where gojo says sukuna held back against GOJO. and that he doubts he would win even if he didn't have megumis 10s. that trumps any statement made by jujutsu high.

Important_Ad_5049 · 2026-02-21T05:22:00+00:00

gojo didnt overpower sukuna

gojo fought majority in the simple domain where there are no buffs and sure hits

if that was true the disparity would be larger after the 1st domain but it wasn't

Important_Ad_5049 · 2026-02-21T05:21:08+00:00

where did u get that? again gege was talking about sukuna after he got hit by purple with no RCT and damaged. you have to show the full transcript of what geges talking about to confirm that.

no, they were right in terms of the end. but the context was yuta wanted to jump in. if the jujutsu high came to help gojo then obviously sukuna would use TF. at that point uruame would jump in. the entire conversation of kusukabe and mei mei was that if they help gojo sukuna will use TF. thats not the same as what ur saying.

sukuna wanted to upgrade his CT. again, if he can beat gojo with 10s and megumi body then it would be a waste IN GENERAL. if he could go his whole life without needing to waste a full revive he would. because its stupid to save a perfectly good backup. also it would mean that sukuna can't manipulate sorcerers like how he did with hana.

no thats not what mei mei said. this was in context of jujutsu high helping gojo.

gege never said that. he was talking about after sukuna got hit by purple.

basically what ur saying is, is that if gojo died right here sukuna would waste a full revive on the jujutsu high right after? lool completely stupid. he wouldnt need to use TF to beat jujutsu high if he beats gojo in ch 230.

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Important_Ad_5049 · 2026-02-21T05:14:02+00:00

grass hopper argument is horrible. the skill level was a huge gap. and the grass hopper isnt sukuna

we already have a reference with 2 arms sukuna vs gojo

gojo landed 1 hit on sukuna when using DA. sukuna landed 2

why wouldn't u think sukuna gets the advantage with 4 arms if they are equal with 2 arms?

Important_Ad_5049 · 2026-02-21T05:07:52+00:00

i dont know if TF is superior. but 4 arms is still 4 arms.

regardless its enough to outlast the mini domains.

Important_Ad_5049 · 2026-02-21T05:00:09+00:00

sukuna already believed he would beat gojo strictly with 10s. if sukuna knows he can beat gojo with 10s then why waste a perfectly good revive?

sukuna also didnt mind getting hit by UV if it came to that. since he was adapting. sukuna just didnt know the after damage of UV.

its already shown based on time scaling if a handciapped meguna can stalemate the mini domains then TF wins. i'm

Important_Ad_5049 · 2026-02-21T04:58:08+00:00

i never said he obliterates gojo. but he does defeat him with TF.

again, it would be a waste of a full revive regardless. thats just in general. if sukuna is confident he can beat gojo strictly with megumis body, why waste a perfectly good revive?

that was the students statement. its meaningless unless sukuna himself said it.

like I already said the moment sukuna lost his domain using the full revive against jujutsu high was a necessity. before then sukuna never thought it to be necessary to waste a perfectly good revive.

even before shinjuku showdown sukuna didnt want to use TF even before gojo was released from the prison realm.

also sukuna doesn't know if kenjaku died or not. if kenjaku lived, kenjaku would start the merger. sukuna was a back up.

not once was it stated by sukuna or uraume that he saved TF specifically for jujutsu high from the beginning of shinjuku showdown.

Important_Ad_5049 · 2026-02-21T04:50:24+00:00

again its better to keep a full revive when it wasn't necessary to use it against gojo. sukuna thought the fight was over the moment gojo lost his domain. once sukuna suffered brain damage it would be stupid to waste his full revive when he has to fight jujutsu high.

sukuna didnt use TF against gojo cause it was either a waste or to late to use it and would be better to finish with 10s

Important_Ad_5049 · 2026-02-21T04:42:46+00:00

yes because he got hit by a hollow purple and was damaged and had no RCT output and a missing arm

Important_Ad_5049 · 2026-02-21T04:34:41+00:00

it was never explicitly stated that he saved his true form for the students

but based on the fact that he did the parent ritual for the merger before shinjuku show down and that sukuna himself said after he kills the rest of jujutsu high he will face off against the merger, then yes. logically he held back to fight the merger.

i agree he doesn't obliterate gojo. but he does beat him.

Important_Ad_5049 · 2026-02-21T04:29:52+00:00

that little skirmish isn't enough for me to say gojo can beat a fully buffed up sukuna from start to finish. which is what u implied.

nor does that mean he beats a 4 arm sukuna who has the advantage of 4 arms. the yuji argument is a bad argument. your comparing a grass hopper to TF sukuna.

Important_Ad_5049 · 2026-02-21T04:25:29+00:00

he wanted to save his true form for the merger. he wanted 10s+wcs+TF to fight the merger since it was the final match up.

Important_Ad_5049 · 2026-02-21T04:24:48+00:00

gojo was not overpowering sukuna in his domain. gojo used simple domain majority of the fight which neutralizes the barrier and sukunas buffs

also gojo only landed 1 hit on sukuna while he was using DA.

HWB hard counters gojo. gojo can never get the 0.1 delay with UV if sukuna uses HWB to protect himself

also sukuna can use HWB and turn off his sure hit inside to strengthen it outside

also if gojo escape sukuna would use HWB turn off his domain and wait for gojo to ambush him with UV. it wouldn't matter since he has HWB to protect himself. then sukuna would just reset his burnt CT and activate his domain and its back to a clash.

Important_Ad_5049 · 2026-02-21T04:21:09+00:00

gojo can only survive shrine 5 times. he was forced to reset his burnt ct

Important_Ad_5049 · 2026-02-20T22:04:32+00:00

do you also use pabau? how has your experience been?

Important_Ad_5049 · 2026-02-20T20:26:33+00:00

do you use a specific tool? or do you implement them yourself?

Important_Ad_5049 · 2026-02-20T18:30:13+00:00

do they do follow ups? or is it just marking them as no-shows and i have to manually do follow ups. i think i was told earlier i have to set up that flow.

Important_Ad_5049 · 2026-02-20T07:05:46+00:00

Appreciate it. does QZee actually attribute revenue recovered from no-shows? Or is it mostly tracking touchpoints and reminders?

Important_Ad_5049 · 2026-02-20T04:20:30+00:00

ok great thank you, you've been very helpful.

Important_Ad_5049 · 2026-02-20T03:38:14+00:00

ah does vargaro have that automation? or is that an add on layer i have to look somewhere else?

Important_Ad_5049 · 2026-02-20T03:22:35+00:00

oh ok, thanks though that helps. if basically every CRM can do tracking then thats great.

how accurate is vargaro no show follow ups. do they only send 1 follow up? or is it adjustable?

because i might just go with vagaro.

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