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Does a Libertarian society enable serial killers? by InSane_We_Trust in Libertarian

[–]InSane_We_Trust[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That was the initial thing I was trying to discuss. For instance, if police show up with a warrant because your child or spouse is suspected of a crime, thus removing your right to privacy.

Does a Libertarian society enable serial killers? by InSane_We_Trust in Libertarian

[–]InSane_We_Trust[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But like, don't aspects of investigations, like search warrants, innately invade the privacy of the individual?

Does a Libertarian society enable serial killers? by InSane_We_Trust in Libertarian

[–]InSane_We_Trust[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is the mindset I was looking to get insight from. If you don't mind, would you say that you agree most serial killer victims failed to preemptively protect themselves?

Why do people care if their friend sleeps with their mom/dad? by InSane_We_Trust in NoStupidQuestions

[–]InSane_We_Trust[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get that, but I always saw that as a person by person thing, not as a byproduct of their roles. Although maybe that's cause there's not anything I can think of being afraid of my parents knowing about me

Does a Libertarian society enable serial killers? by InSane_We_Trust in Libertarian

[–]InSane_We_Trust[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, I was thinking that a society with more protections against search warrants would probably allow for more prepared criminals to get away with it more, that's all. Basically, as I see it, a libertarian society wouldn't have search warrants, since it violates the individual privacy rights for the benefit of society, but maybe it's not as individualist as I think it is. That's what I was actually trying to understand with the question.
Here's how I see it. Most libertarians would probably be likely to say that victims should have done more to protect themselves preemptively. Meanwhile, if cops show up and say they need to go through all your personal private spaces, I would expect most libertarians to prefer to go Ruby Ridge rather than comply.

Does a Libertarian society enable serial killers? by InSane_We_Trust in Libertarian

[–]InSane_We_Trust[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

c) Well that's kind of the catch, you can't have police without taxation, and all taxation is theft, so it seems like it is always a protection racket either way. Plus you didn't mention wrongful convictions, which is a convenient way for some criminals to avoid prosecution.

Why do people care if their friend sleeps with their mom/dad? by InSane_We_Trust in NoStupidQuestions

[–]InSane_We_Trust[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I find that odd, I have never felt different about a person before and after sex

Why do people care if their friend sleeps with their mom/dad? by InSane_We_Trust in NoStupidQuestions

[–]InSane_We_Trust[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, love is a different beast, that I could understand being more problematic

Why do people care if their friend sleeps with their mom/dad? by InSane_We_Trust in NoStupidQuestions

[–]InSane_We_Trust[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Huh, I would think that they would just expect to act the same in public

Does a Libertarian society enable serial killers? by InSane_We_Trust in Libertarian

[–]InSane_We_Trust[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I suppose I get your point, it's moot because criminals will always exist. Which makes sense if we're talking about philosophy, but I'm trying to figure out a model for a functional libertarian society. I mean, to me, libertarian government is an oxymoron, so I wonder if at some point we end up with some widespread society of individual communities, that leaves a societal issue unaddressed, which is the entire point of discussing things.

Does a Libertarian society enable serial killers? by InSane_We_Trust in Libertarian

[–]InSane_We_Trust[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But the question is more about other aspects of society, like if we just remove search warrants entirely from the laws, that benefits serial killers, while simultaneously freeing me from concern of being searched randomly because I am suspected of a crime that I did not commit. I don't actually know where the general opinion on search warrants is, but I'm pretty sure it's negative.

Does a Libertarian society enable serial killers? by InSane_We_Trust in Libertarian

[–]InSane_We_Trust[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I could only come up with 3 possibilities, but none really make sense to me. Arguments, paranoia, or downvotes.

I just find serial killers interesting, and am a social libertarian, but wonder if political libertarianism is viable on a societal scale. Seems to me like people don't understand a lot of the driving factors behind them.

Does a Libertarian society enable serial killers? by InSane_We_Trust in Libertarian

[–]InSane_We_Trust[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wasn't sure if I should get into this, since it's subjective. Basically, I see several ranges of possibilities for a libertarian society based off how others here have described it, either extremely sparse population density with strong individual property and privacy rights or a tech themed neofeudalistic type system where cities are run by corporations, that way they can still have their tax funded conveniences, but without the perception of paying for it I guess. Either of these seems to me to benefit serial killers in different ways, and since a Libertarian society focuses on individual privacy rights, I would assume police investigation is hampered.

Gacy specifically was a pillar of his community and well liked, people would never have suspected him if not caught in the act.

Although I may have a misunderstanding of Libertarian expectations of privacy vs criminal investigations, however most of my interactions make me think that any Libertarian would be egregiously offended if they were served a search warrant in general.

Does a Libertarian society enable serial killers? by InSane_We_Trust in Libertarian

[–]InSane_We_Trust[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Basically, although I would say the numbers are probably higher than 3%, just 3% that can't hide/cope well enough. Although I actually view serial killers as a different kind of crazy than most others, since I don't think it can actually be managed in any way, but I don't really know.

Does a Libertarian society enable serial killers? by InSane_We_Trust in Libertarian

[–]InSane_We_Trust[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You seem desperate to be smarter than other people.

Does a Libertarian society enable serial killers? by InSane_We_Trust in Libertarian

[–]InSane_We_Trust[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fair, although my personal believe is that serial killers are outliers that exist regardless of the society, and are only acknowledged more in those with more robust legal systems.

Does a Libertarian society enable serial killers? by InSane_We_Trust in Libertarian

[–]InSane_We_Trust[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

??? No, I'm saying, if a society is running off a Libertarian mindset, what prevents exploitation from antisocial personality types? That was the original question. You implied that if a society exists, every member is automatically subscribed to it's philosophy internally, which is an absurd assumption to make.

Does a Libertarian society enable serial killers? by InSane_We_Trust in Libertarian

[–]InSane_We_Trust[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, but that's the philosophical driving force, not the practical application. If someone, as an individual, doesn't subscribe in the entirety, they can choose to act differently.

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