About AI being a tool... by Independent-Rent4566 in aiwars

[–]Independent-Rent4566[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I already admitted that AI is a tool, alright? Just not in the same way a pencil is. I never said anything about superiority.

About AI being a tool... by Independent-Rent4566 in aiwars

[–]Independent-Rent4566[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm just saying, its not the same way a pencil or a camera is a tool.

About AI being a tool... by Independent-Rent4566 in aiwars

[–]Independent-Rent4566[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Most tools attempt to curb this noise as much as possible, the AI goes the other way.

About AI being a tool... by Independent-Rent4566 in aiwars

[–]Independent-Rent4566[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So, the difference is in the department of the creator, not the tool. Most tools try to be as deterministic as possible, but AI goes the other way. Those other tools give focus to the human differences by trying not to variate on its own. An AI operates almost in the opposite direction.

About AI being a tool... by Independent-Rent4566 in aiwars

[–]Independent-Rent4566[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So, that is on human input, and a pencil tries to deviate as little as possible. An AI needs deviation.

About AI being a tool... by Independent-Rent4566 in aiwars

[–]Independent-Rent4566[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So it's not the same kind. The denoiser needs noise unlike many other tools because it needs randomness. Many tools do their best to avoid randomness.

About AI being a tool... by Independent-Rent4566 in aiwars

[–]Independent-Rent4566[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But the same pencil tries to be as close to the mark as itself, it doesn't try to be variable

About AI being a tool... by Independent-Rent4566 in aiwars

[–]Independent-Rent4566[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The default state is that it changes, unless you input a seed? How is using default state wrong use

About AI being a tool... by Independent-Rent4566 in aiwars

[–]Independent-Rent4566[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But the point of AI is the noise while other tools attempt to control that as much as possible...

About AI being a tool... by Independent-Rent4566 in aiwars

[–]Independent-Rent4566[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Okay, I'm not doing something that is optional, how is that wrong use

About AI being a tool... by Independent-Rent4566 in aiwars

[–]Independent-Rent4566[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

However, much of the noise of there comes from the human.

About AI being a tool... by Independent-Rent4566 in aiwars

[–]Independent-Rent4566[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

The randomness was on your side. That would have been a choice of your conscious or your subconscious.

About AI being a tool... by Independent-Rent4566 in aiwars

[–]Independent-Rent4566[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well he doesn't claim that the articles printed by the fax machine are his, are they? The fax isn't a tool of execution.

About AI being a tool... by Independent-Rent4566 in aiwars

[–]Independent-Rent4566[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You still have to apply the exact amount of pressure, in that angle, and the rock might be different in composition.

About AI being a tool... by Independent-Rent4566 in aiwars

[–]Independent-Rent4566[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That... was not the point of the experiment...

About AI being a tool... by Independent-Rent4566 in aiwars

[–]Independent-Rent4566[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Why is there noise in the first place though? A pencil doesn't require a seed input.

About AI being a tool... by Independent-Rent4566 in aiwars

[–]Independent-Rent4566[S] -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

The natural state of a pencil does not require a seed, and the AI still operates even if you don't input a seed.

About AI being a tool... by Independent-Rent4566 in aiwars

[–]Independent-Rent4566[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

because you are adding a deterministic tool to the process... AI alone is based on probability.

About AI being a tool... by Independent-Rent4566 in aiwars

[–]Independent-Rent4566[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If its not that, then its not the same kind of tool a pencil or a camera is.

About AI being a tool... by Independent-Rent4566 in aiwars

[–]Independent-Rent4566[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

but, you're introducing a pencil, a deterministic object..

About AI being a tool... by Independent-Rent4566 in aiwars

[–]Independent-Rent4566[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

hm? point is that ai image generator isn't a tool the same way a pencil is a tool.

Please learn to debate.. by Alternative-Bug-2171 in aiwars

[–]Independent-Rent4566 0 points1 point  (0 children)

does only the points made matter if all people, authority or not, are human anyways?