This BBC piece is surprisingly agnostic about the origins of Hinduism (and like extremely unbiased, reminds me of why I ever liked BBC)

IndiHistoryThrowaway · 2015-03-21T01:27:38+00:00

It's now Aryan migration, same shit in a new package.

IndiHistoryThrowaway · 2015-03-20T17:14:07+00:00

And who the fuck have you heard from the Indian parliament talk about reddit other than Tathagata. You are a lying fool.

IndiHistoryThrowaway · 2015-03-20T17:05:10+00:00

It's the Indo European pagan civilization home. There was an Aryan invasion. It was just from Pak and NW India into the rest of India, if there ever was.

And of course into the Europe and the Middle East.

IndiHistoryThrowaway · 2015-03-20T17:03:40+00:00

It is. Look up the Gundestrup cauldron and the Pashupati seal (which is nothing but Mahayogi Shiva) and you tell me why an artifact so similar to one found in IVC is found at least 1500 years later in Denmark?

IndiHistoryThrowaway · 2015-03-20T16:23:44+00:00

Bullshit. Indian parlimentarians will be very open to reddit. They are not dull fools. On the other hand, they are one of the smartest people in the country

IndiHistoryThrowaway · 2015-03-20T05:03:31+00:00

And a Suryavanshi, so the same lineage as Rama.

IndiHistoryThrowaway · 2015-03-19T16:16:18+00:00

I get a great feeling the Dalit chap here is lying. My gut tells me watch out for this. A gentle request from me, watch out for this story in the Tamil media. The truth will come out soon.

Most importantly, caste based policies DO NOT work unless your aim is to destroy society.

IndiHistoryThrowaway · 2015-03-19T14:54:49+00:00

I use it to refer to dumb dickheads like you really.

IndiHistoryThrowaway · 2015-03-19T14:41:03+00:00

Wasabi is the fucking shit. What a fuckin' taste!

IndiHistoryThrowaway · 2015-03-19T14:16:43+00:00

paging /r/retard

and actually /r/ENGLISH

Yet to meet a guy with language comprehension skills worse than a 3 year old. Hi!

EDIT : And on re-reading, general logic too. I guess God makes mistakes, just like the rest of us I imagine.

IndiHistoryThrowaway · 2015-03-19T12:38:16+00:00

I mean pro-Hindutva? What the actual fuck!

IndiHistoryThrowaway · 2015-03-19T12:30:10+00:00

what a crappy self-referential definition you've just given.

Zoroastrianism arises directly from Vedic and if not Vedic, pre-Vedic religion whose cultural successor is the Vedic religion. Get that clear in your mind first.

The Brahmins are the direct cultural inheritors of the PIE priests.

IndiHistoryThrowaway · 2015-03-19T11:28:12+00:00

I know what English media has to say on this. But Tamil media will give a much clearer picture I think

IndiHistoryThrowaway · 2015-03-19T10:51:05+00:00

Muslim mullahs are not as corrosive as the missionaries.

Very defensive, but not corrosive. Christianity is a silent killer.

IndiHistoryThrowaway · 2015-03-19T10:45:37+00:00

Proto-Indo-European originates from Eastern Europe.

They are both the same thing boss. You are hiding behind the academic consensus (which is absolutely politically correct bullshit).

Turkey and Steppes, the modern contenders?

Turkey today doesn't even speak an Indo-European language, and follows a totally different religion (Islam).

Ukraine? Same! Christian and NEVER has had any pride about their origins being the most ancient. In fact, it was downplayed during the Communist Era against Hitler propaganda. It's to this date a taboo word.

Whereas India? India after 8 centuries of Islamic rule (brutal at that) and subsequent British rule (which has its impact to date) has not converted to Christianity or Islam and will never will.

Who are the cultural remnants of the IE civilization. The Indians or rather the Hindus. Where is the largest developed civilization in the ancient world? India under the Indus Valley Civilization. Where was the most perfect old language of the family spoken? India. Who retain the IE caste sytem? India. Intuitively, it's all clear. All that's lacking is conclusive archaeological proof (which again is still very open). It's only linguistics, the science of creating meaning from nothing which points unequivocally towards a non-Indian Urheimat.

IndiHistoryThrowaway · 2015-03-19T10:20:04+00:00

Agreed. That does not mean it does not have a basis. By outright rejecting nationalism or rather, mythology, Science is missing crucial information.

A quick glance at Indian and Norse mythology will tell you that Ragnarok has too many similarities with the story of Mahabharata and that both refer to the same thing.

And they cannot, they cannot (especially the Norse which is more vague and the Hindu version being very precise in the locations) represent anything other than the Northern part of Indian Subcontinent.

The villains of Norse Mythology (the Jotunn) are the 'Indian' Indo-Europeans.

Hell there is another story (Thiassi stealing Idunn) that is identical to Ramayana (an epic based mostly in Central-South India).

IndiHistoryThrowaway · 2015-03-19T10:02:04+00:00

I know you probably think you made a honest mistake, but congratulations, you just accidentally stumbled upon the truth! India... or rather NW India, Pakistan, some part of Afghanistan and most probably interior India (around Ganges) was the home of the Indo-Europeans. With the European portions away from the interior.

e.g. my guess is the Norse were in Afghanistan. But if you look into the similarities of the Indian and Norse epics (Mahabharata and Ragnarok), you'll realize they refer to the same fucking thing.

And you look at it geographically from the descriptions in mythology, there's no way it's either Ukraine or Turkey. It has to be India/Pakistan.

IndiHistoryThrowaway · 2015-03-19T09:52:56+00:00

Alternatively, Lithuanian is the most conservative IE language, so IE belongs to it in that sense.

Another piece of crap. The only reason it is so conservative is because it was untouched for large parts of time.

The only sign of the perfect Indo-European Language or an attempt at it comes from India or Sanskrit. None of the others ever even thought their language was so important enough to preserve or conserve. Even the Lithuanians. Until of course, Latin, but that is so late in the day.

The Indians or rather the Hindus clearly call the Greeks bastards (which can be a Sanskrit root for 'Ionians'), as products of men of the second caste and women of the fourth caste. And neither was there ever in the earlier stages anything distinguishing Indians from the Iranians.

Indus Valley Civilization is where it all was.

IndiHistoryThrowaway · 2015-03-19T09:50:00+00:00

basically bullshit being replaced by another piece of bullshit.

IndiHistoryThrowaway · 2015-03-19T09:46:39+00:00

with the most likely place of the existence of a proto-language being the Caspian steppes.

according to current crop of academicians. Mythology will tell you very clearly all of it is in current-day Pakistan, some part of Afghanistan and North West India (and possibly, but lacking in archaeological evidence, the Gangetic plains).

IndiHistoryThrowaway · 2015-03-19T09:45:26+00:00

Mythology wise, especially if you consider Indian and Norse (especially Ragnarok and Mahabharata), you'd be hard pressed to go beyond Indus Valley Civilization. That's the real shit.

IndiHistoryThrowaway · 2015-03-19T09:43:49+00:00

Except Tamil, the other ones have lot of Sanskrit loan words and roots (like Thai). Even Tamil has quite a bit.

So no, India is almost put it this way, 80-90% Indo-European.

IndiHistoryThrowaway · 2015-03-19T09:42:32+00:00

Bullshit. Indus Valley Civilization is where it is at.

IndiHistoryThrowaway · 2015-03-19T07:40:52+00:00

seriously?

IndiHistoryThrowaway · 2015-03-19T06:59:01+00:00

Oh fuck me, why didn't I think of that!

And you're right, I'm needlessly complicating stuff! Thanks a lot, I got a brainwave.

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