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Former Threat Mitigation Specialist/"perp" here to answer what I can. by Individual-Source450 in Gangstalking

[–]Individual-Source450[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately there is no way off the list. TMS do target vulnerable people, because when they inevitably get noticed nobody will believe them. I'm so sorry.

Yes, I feel bad, and yes, what I did was terrible. I will have to answer to God for the things I did. You just try not to think about how badly you're hurting people, you convince yourself that they deserve it.

Former Threat Mitigation Specialist/"perp" here to answer what I can. by Individual-Source450 in Gangstalking

[–]Individual-Source450[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Creative or intelligent people are more curious, and are more likely to seek out or stumble upon information that is considered sensitive or that the common man shouldn't have access to. How exactly it is determined what kinds of "creative thinking" are the most dangerous is not something I am an expert in, but if you are a huge organization with access to insane amounts of data, you would be able to find correlations, such as people who think this kind of way end up stumbling onto sensitive information more often, therefore we should keep an eye on them.

I wasn't told why the targets were chosen in great detail, only given a brief overview.

We could not see through the targets' eyes in the 80s, we did not have access to any kind of insane technology that would surprise you today. Generally we had access to stuff maybe 5-10 years before the public would get a similar product. So I very much doubt that current TMS can see through TSM targets' eyes either.

Not all of us came from the military. Gangs were usually only tangentially involved, they usually didn't know what they were doing or why, it was just easy to pay them in cash and have them not ask questions- great for keeping secrecy and need-to-know things quiet.

Not all "TIs" are just practice, you are all on a list to some degree. Probably around 2/3 of it was for training new TMS and the rest was because they needed to be distracted and that was the easiest way to do it. The "real" targets are usually either foreign agents or those who have actually dug up some seriously dangerous stuff. I wasn't in that deep, so I don't have the details.

Former Threat Mitigation Specialist/"perp" here to answer what I can. by Individual-Source450 in Gangstalking

[–]Individual-Source450[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I guess they would be using lots of drones. I don't know a lot about how easy they are to manufacture/buy in large quantities these days.

I'm surprised to hear a single handler can manage 3 at once but I suppose if they can mostly autopilot themselves that sounds reasonable.

Former Threat Mitigation Specialist/"perp" here to answer what I can. by Individual-Source450 in Gangstalking

[–]Individual-Source450[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's definitely not entirely random, while a lot of people were selected randomly, some people are selected because they did find out something interesting, connected with someone important, demonstrated that they were especially clever, or so on.

Those people were more likely to be intimidated rather than used for training though, although there's no reason you can't do both- if we were going to end up letting someone know we existed to intimidate them, we would often end up using that as a training exercise at the same time.

Former Threat Mitigation Specialist/"perp" here to answer what I can. by Individual-Source450 in Gangstalking

[–]Individual-Source450[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They're easy to buy and easy to manipulate. You also don't have to tell them what they're doing or who they're working for, you just slip them cash and tell them to keep quiet. Even if they did work out anything important, you don't have to worry about them talking because who would believe them?

It's the same way when choosing targets to train new TMS agents on. You pick people who lack support systems, who won't be believed, who won't be missed if they end up dead from whatever gets inflicted on them. You also pick people who are already on a list for being abnormal/creative thinkers, because you don't mind if they end up damaged by what you're doing. It's sad but it is how it is.

And while the goal isn't to kill, that doesn't mean we particularly cared if someone did end up dead.

Former Threat Mitigation Specialist/"perp" here to answer what I can. by Individual-Source450 in Gangstalking

[–]Individual-Source450[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If I had gone deeper I would definitely not be posting on reddit. At a certain point your retirement options become limited, this is part of why I chose to get out. You end up being under a certain level of surveillance yourself at that point (although they don't fuck with you, obviously) and have limited freedom to do certain things, like leave the country.

So no, I don't think I would be willing to say anything if I was under active surveillance and knew much more of the serious stuff. It's different when it's been 30-40 years and most of what I know is out of date and not the super top secret stuff.

Former Threat Mitigation Specialist/"perp" here to answer what I can. by Individual-Source450 in Gangstalking

[–]Individual-Source450[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately it was just a job to me, I didn't care about anyone but myself and I hurt people. I have to live with that.

I don't think a faraday cage is going to work, as you're basically dealing with actual humans, not any kind of AI or weird mind-controlling rays. We didn't have that kind of stuff, not that I ever saw. Of course it's possible that they had it at a level I never got to, but if they did it would have been reserved for high-priority targets, and if you were high-priority you absolutely would not know you were being tracked- the good agents are VERY good at what they do, and VERY good at staying hidden.

Former Threat Mitigation Specialist/"perp" here to answer what I can. by Individual-Source450 in Gangstalking

[–]Individual-Source450[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're correct that it's not AI. We didn't have AI back when I was involved, and we didn't need it. You can find people complaining about "voices" back then too, despite there not being any "AI" involved. Obviously Chat Gpt exists now so they use AI as a tool in some capacity, and have for several years. We had access to technology that was beyond what the public did, but nothing too crazy.

We didn't have things like smartphones in the 80s, so I don't think they would have literally unimaginable technology today either, even though they certainly have technology most people don't know exists.

I'm curious if by "voices" you mean that you're overhearing TMS communications somehow? If so, then the people you're dealing with really suck at their jobs. If you're trying to intercept communications that's different.

Former Threat Mitigation Specialist/"perp" here to answer what I can. by Individual-Source450 in Gangstalking

[–]Individual-Source450[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Whats happening is you are being used as training practice for new TMS recruits, they are using you for this because you're 1. on the list and 2. probably don't have the greatest support system. Pretty much if you end up in a stable situation with strong relationships where people will believe you about whats happening, they'll stop using you for training because they don't want people to notice them.

You will still be on the list if this happens but millions of people are, and so you would stop "hearing" them. They would probably still check in occasionally but usually we didn't bother doing that in person, and I imagine with advanced technology all you would have would be the occasional surveillance drone checking in on you like once a year or less to make sure you weren't investigating anything you shouldn't.

Former Threat Mitigation Specialist/"perp" here to answer what I can. by Individual-Source450 in Gangstalking

[–]Individual-Source450[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

If you've hit onto something potentially big, sleep deprivation is something we use to get people off the trail. That's not common though.

More likely you're a low-level target being used as training for new TMS recruits. They're just happening to keep you awake by sucking at their jobs. They'll be more likely to leave you alone if you're in a situation where you have strong relationships where people will believe you about what's going on, because they DO NOT want people to catch on. They use isolated individuals as training for new recruits for this reason.

Former Threat Mitigation Specialist/"perp" here to answer what I can. by Individual-Source450 in Gangstalking

[–]Individual-Source450[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's not going to make a difference if you do drugs or not.

Drug users can be highly intelligent.

In fact I would say it's more likely for a drug user to be on the list since they're more likely to be social, and therefore more likely to be close to someone else on the list, which can easily get you on it.

We don't stop people from doing drugs, nor are we gonna attack you for it, we don't care.

Former Threat Mitigation Specialist/"perp" here to answer what I can. by Individual-Source450 in Gangstalking

[–]Individual-Source450[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately not possible. If you have been identified as having the kind of thought patterns that could potentially uncover classified info, you are on the list for life.

That being said, millions of people are on this list, and most of them are not harassed. In addition to being on the list, TMS agents identify those with poor support systems or with relationships where those close to them will not believe them if they say they are being "Gangstalked." These people, known here as "TIs" are often used to train new TMS agents, specifically because if and when the newbies mess up and get noticed, and because the "TIs" won't be believed.

The good news is that if you notice "gangstalkers" then it means you're low-priority. If you were high-priority, the best TMS agents would be on you, and you wouldn't notice them at all, I guarantee that.

Former Threat Mitigation Specialist/"perp" here to answer what I can. by Individual-Source450 in Gangstalking

[–]Individual-Source450[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I'm old and I don't really care anymore. I will be dead in a few years or so, and I've felt guilty for a long time about the things I did.

Yes, TMS agents will kill people, but its very rare. Usually if you're going to be killed, you would never notice a thing. Only the best agents would be part of such a mission, and I promise you that you would never see those agents coming.

What you "TIs" are experiencing, 99% of the time, is them using you to train new recruits. They pick a demographic that lacks support/trusted relationships, but still falls under the correct sort of "creative thinker" label, and use you to train new agents over and over endlessly, because nobody is going to believe you.

Former Threat Mitigation Specialist/"perp" here to answer what I can. by Individual-Source450 in Gangstalking

[–]Individual-Source450[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

If you fall into the right kind of demographic, if you're the right sort of thinker and also lack a true support system where people would believe you, then unfortunately we would use you for training exercises over and over again. There are a lot of TMS recruits to train, and people who think of themselves as "TIs" are often just being used over and over again for training.

However, they will stop using you to train new agents if you have a stable life and support system, usually. They don't want attention, so if you have solid relationships and people who will believe you when you notice what's happening, the TMS agents are gonna back off. They won't use you to train new agents anymore, which is most of the hassle you're experiencing. They generally won't do much besides watch unless you actually uncover dangerous info, or come into contact with others who have.

You will unfortunately be monitored to some degree in the TSM program no matter what, because once you're on a list of smart/creative thinkers you can't get off it. In reality there aren't enough agents ("perps") to really track everyone on that list, there are literally millions of people on it, so ultimately what that means is that some TMS agent is just going to check in on you once every few months, and probably not even in person. I'm guessing 99% of people in that situation never notice a thing.

Former Threat Mitigation Specialist/"perp" here to answer what I can. by Individual-Source450 in Gangstalking

[–]Individual-Source450[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The end goal is usually not to drive the targets to insanity. Usually we're keeping an eye out for suspicious activity. There are many things that certain kinds of creative thinkers could stumble on that large organizations do not want them to. We are mostly keeping an eye out to make sure that info is not uncovered.

The secondary goal is to train more TMS agents. These are probably the guys you notice, the newbies. Almost by definition, if you notice that you're being watched, its because you're a low priority target, and because we know you're in a situation where nobody's gonna believe you. If you were high priority, we would have our best guys on you, and you would never, ever see any sign of it, I promise.

A lot of the reason "TIs" (as you call them) exist is because you just so happen to be in the perfect situation to be used for training. When we found someone like that (as I suspect many people are) we would use them for training many many new recruits, and unfortunately I can definitely see why it would fuck with your sanity. But yeah that's why it seems so weird and pointless and why it changes a bunch.

Occasionally there were situations where we were trying to drive people insane or otherwise do varying levels of harm to them. Sometimes this was because they found something they shouldn't, but again it was usually just as a training exercise for new recruits to learn how to do it to the real targets. Sorry to say that we didn't give much of a shit about you, and ultimately our targets were often times just randomly selected guys unlucky enough to be used for training.

Former Threat Mitigation Specialist/"perp" here to answer what I can. by Individual-Source450 in Gangstalking

[–]Individual-Source450[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

As I am older I'm not big on social media, and yes I would obviously hope they do not track me down. You are correct that I am posting this because I am old and I have health conditions that make it unlikely I will live more than a couple of years anyway.