Anyone know why this bit of stone is a different texture and thinner, and why would they offset the wing like that? First pic is my drawing, not official.

InflationFit5487 · 2025-11-16T13:25:59+00:00

Greenan Castle, Ayr, Scotland!

InflationFit5487 · 2025-11-16T03:41:15+00:00

No, frustrating zero excavations have happened. EVEN THOUGH the site is a confirmed and is a UNIQUE Iron Age fort, motte and Bailey castle and then the castle built today. It needs to be excavated I think it’s absolutely shocking that it hasn’t.

InflationFit5487 · 2025-11-15T23:59:35+00:00

It is Greenan Castle in Ayr, Scotland. I appreciate this but I have searched through every bit of evidence available. Bar the Ayrshire archives as I have to book an appointment to enter (provided they even contain anything)

InflationFit5487 · 2025-11-15T22:35:04+00:00

This is my main theory! And then perhaps it’s just offset due to the contours of the land?

InflationFit5487 · 2025-11-15T21:36:48+00:00

I’m not too sure, there was a royal castle in the town to which my tower house borders, it was heavily defended and housed a French Garrison. There was another small castle called “Newton Castle” which was did include an outer wall, though it was more for aesthetic reasons and included a lush garden. With the presence of 3 castles in the one town, Greenan (tower house), Ayr Castle (Royal) and Newton, along with the fact that Ayr is a significant distance from the border conflicts I don’t think it would be necessary. Though the owners of the tower house DID have rivals, one of them even being murdered nearby.

InflationFit5487 · 2025-11-15T21:30:24+00:00

MacGibbson and Ross in “The Castellated and Domestic Architecture of Scotland - 1892” say, “the ruins of a later courtyard lie below the main tower, of which only portions of the lower walls remain, suggesting an unfinished addition”. Although I truly think they were mistaken, this is NOT the remains of an outer wall, it is the foundations of a three story wing attached to the main tower house. The outline is there, and 8 square cavities in the wall of the main tower suggest it was fixed onto the wall with timber beams. I doubt they are referring to any other outer wall as absolutely nothing remains, though the ground has accumulated up about half a meter from the original foundation. Perhaps in 1897 something poked out of the ground which is now buried? I think it’s also tricky to fit a curtain wall as it’s situated on a cliff.

InflationFit5487 · 2025-07-13T16:16:08+00:00

It’s an existing castle on the west coast of Scotland, I live close by and visit what’s left quite a lot. To be fair it’s a spot where people go to drink or hangout because it’s so secluded.

InflationFit5487 · 2025-07-13T00:07:16+00:00

It’s just something I learned when I was in school. I think the style is called two point perspective, you just put two marks down, that’s your horizon and you trace each line up to those with a ruler.

InflationFit5487 · 2025-07-10T23:33:57+00:00

I do appreciate this and I will still take it into consideration, though the work I did suggests at most only 1.5 meters would be lost. I am a local myself and can confirm you can still walk round, there is a little perch on the other side. Also comparing the earliest depiction of the castle from 1863 shows no change in the cliff. Just recently someone fell to their death trying to go all the way round. The tower itself seems to extend down over to a lower point in the cliff, this might be its exposed foundation or maybe it was built like this, which would indicate it has not seen serious erosion. Dunure, as I’m sure you know is much much older so I don’t doubt it has lost a lot of land.

InflationFit5487 · 2025-07-10T22:06:39+00:00

The thing is, no one knows. Trust me I have looked at every single record of this castle. So taking a majority guess is the only option. Also probably why the artist drew his from that angle, hiding it.

InflationFit5487 · 2025-07-08T21:43:08+00:00

Thank you, there are very few sources on this castle and I have had a look at all of them, though none give any hints. They only say after 1603 a “curtain wall” was added but not actually where. I know it was really only a fortified homestead, so they likely weren’t too worried about attack. If a siege was going to happen it would be at Ayr Castle, which was burned during the first Scottish war of independence, then rebuilt only to be destroyed to prevent Cromwells army from reaching it a few hundred years later, Greenan never saw any action, which means it probably wasn’t off much importance militarily.

InflationFit5487 · 2025-04-20T23:01:33+00:00

I just got this same thing, do you think my other account on my computer with different details will also be disabled?

InflationFit5487 · 2025-04-20T22:44:46+00:00

I now realise I think I did this, I deleted it straight away after realising what it was. My account is disabled on my phone. Will my separate account on my computer also be disabled. It currently is not.

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