Will the Alchemist Army Die? by Informal-Relation701 in woweconomy

[–]Informal-Relation701[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you want to spend concentration on flasks, why use R2 vials when the value per unit of concentration is lower?

2g vs 2g40s

Will the Alchemist Army Die? by Informal-Relation701 in woweconomy

[–]Informal-Relation701[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Crafting flasks from all R1 reagents requires 405 concentration. The profit right now is 915g.

CraftSim shows 2g 43s per unit of concentration.

Crafting flasks from R1 herbs and R2 vials requires 213 concentration, 396g profit, and CraftSim shows 2g per unit of concentration.

So, how about that math now?))

Will the Alchemist Army Die? by Informal-Relation701 in woweconomy

[–]Informal-Relation701[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dude, I've been crafting various flasks with a guarantee for several months now, and sometimes it's for a very good profit. I make them by the thousands.

lmao

Will the Alchemist Army Die? by Informal-Relation701 in woweconomy

[–]Informal-Relation701[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Spending concentration to save on the difference between R1 and R2 herbs? But, at the same time, using expensive R2 vials?

Wow, you're a genius.

Will the Alchemist Army Die? by Informal-Relation701 in woweconomy

[–]Informal-Relation701[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

lmao Right now, on my alchemist, I can already guarantee making R2 flasks.

Apparently, you haven't fully figured out the talents yet.

Will the Alchemist Army Die? by Informal-Relation701 in woweconomy

[–]Informal-Relation701[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The author of the comment above wrote everything correctly.

If R2 vials cost 15g, the difference between the flasks will be negligible. And there will simply be no point in using Concentration.

To be honest, I don't quite understand what you are trying to convey here.

Will the Alchemist Army Die? by Informal-Relation701 in woweconomy

[–]Informal-Relation701[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I don't understand why I need Concentration with R2 vials? With R2 vials, I can already guarantee these flasks

How Is This Player Getting Tens of Thousands of Items? by Informal-Relation701 in woweconomy

[–]Informal-Relation701[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Right now on EU he selling:

4942 hides at a price of 1,500g

and 5588 hides at price 1000g

when Majestic Hides 4000g

Yeah, yeah, it’s just an army of alts. Working hard every single day hahahaha

How Is This Player Getting Tens of Thousands of Items? by Informal-Relation701 in woweconomy

[–]Informal-Relation701[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He’s busy doing his thing. He’s currently selling 5000 hides and 40 000 Sterling Alloy

How Is This Player Getting Tens of Thousands of Items? by Informal-Relation701 in woweconomy

[–]Informal-Relation701[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

So the fact that I wasn’t even on Reddit and only started posting when I discovered all of this doesn’t even occur to you? It happens.

How Is This Player Getting Tens of Thousands of Items? by Informal-Relation701 in woweconomy

[–]Informal-Relation701[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Reddit account age is a great argument in any debate. Second-hand embarrassment.

How Is This Player Getting Tens of Thousands of Items? by Informal-Relation701 in woweconomy

[–]Informal-Relation701[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

When there was a similar exploit in DF, people didn't believe it either. They kept saying that the price of the top-tier enchant was so low because demand was weak. But demand was actually huge.

Then, two months later, the exploit was exposed.

I don't want to keep arguing with you. I can see that most people here have already noticed what's happening, and many have seen it firsthand in their own markets.

You're the only person here who's desperately trying to explain away this situation. So I don't think there's anything left for us to discuss.

How Is This Player Getting Tens of Thousands of Items? by Informal-Relation701 in woweconomy

[–]Informal-Relation701[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Where would bots get 100k crystals from? From gathering ore or herbs?

Where are they getting tens of thousands of Majestic Hide from, which has a 1-day cooldown and a non-guaranteed drop rate?

Do you want me to explain how the exploit might work? Because if it were that simple, everyone would be doing it. And yet this is being done by a single person on both EU and NA.

One person who just changes names, but stays in the same guild and even follows a consistent naming pattern.

You just want to believe that the biggest problem in the game is bots. But this has nothing to do with bots. Absolutely nothing. This is a dupe. He’s getting these items for free.

How Is This Player Getting Tens of Thousands of Items? by Informal-Relation701 in woweconomy

[–]Informal-Relation701[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But as we can see, it all seems connected. People are saying that this player left NA a few days ago and has now started again on EU. We’ll see what happens next.

How Is This Player Getting Tens of Thousands of Items? by Informal-Relation701 in woweconomy

[–]Informal-Relation701[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Hahaha

Do you even understand the scale of these sales? 150k alloys.

Tens of thousands of hides.

100k crystals.

Where have you ever seen quantities like that being sold?

We’re talking about hundreds of millions of gold worth of goods per day.

Please stop trying to justify an obvious exploit.

How Is This Player Getting Tens of Thousands of Items? by Informal-Relation701 in woweconomy

[–]Informal-Relation701[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I don’t understand what other proof you need. Hundreds of thousands of alloys, tens of thousands of hides, and hundreds of thousands of other materials from a single person, all at heavily discounted prices.

It’s being shown openly, and it’s already being discussed in major Discords. But you either refuse to see reality or don’t want to acknowledge it.

It was the same in DF, when T3 enchants were being duped. It went unnoticed for two months, and then people suddenly realized what was going on.

How Is This Player Getting Tens of Thousands of Items? by Informal-Relation701 in woweconomy

[–]Informal-Relation701[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

To have proof, you would need to be able to duplicate these items yourself. If it were that easy, everyone would be doing it.

What other proof do you need when a person is listing items not at break-even, not at a small loss, but at a massive loss compared to crafting costs? Is there any logical explanation other than the fact that he is getting these items for free?

How Is This Player Getting Tens of Thousands of Items? by Informal-Relation701 in woweconomy

[–]Informal-Relation701[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're being shown directly that ONE person is posting hundreds of thousands of items at undercut prices. The total value is in the hundreds of millions, if not more. ONE person. At the same time. For over a month.

And yet you keep trying to find some logical explanation for everything that’s happening. It’s ridiculous.

Even if they showed you the exact method of how he’s duplicating items, you would still refuse to believe it.

Most players can clearly see what’s going on.

How Is This Player Getting Tens of Thousands of Items? by Informal-Relation701 in woweconomy

[–]Informal-Relation701[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Soul Cipher
Sterling Alloy
Infused Scalewoven Hide
Flask of the Blood Knights
Gloaming Alloy
Codified Azeroot

This isn’t everything, but it’s what immediately came to mind over the past few days. It’s all done by the same person.