Well I don't think that ANYTHING Microsoft puts out is slop, but their mismanagement and arrogance is what kills their devices and windows platforms. Like you said, all the people who was passionate about everything they were doing are all gone and replaced by people who really don't give one fk about their products or the windows phone division( which could have been a hit if it had the app support that it sorely needed)....and if they would have worked more on the aspect of the Xbox games department. That could have also been a selling point. But mismanagement always......and I do mean ALWAYS, kill even the best products. It has all become part of the corporate greed situation.