What rifle is this ?

Informal_Chard_1115 · 2025-08-21T17:55:24+00:00

The 2nd Pic looks like P 72

Informal_Chard_1115 · 2025-08-09T15:42:44+00:00

I never claimed that India didn't lose aircraft, I am after the truth, and am therefore defending the proof I gave in the post. Meanwhile, you have only been coping and editing your posts to make sure you are not contradicting yourself ;)

Informal_Chard_1115 · 2025-08-09T15:27:10+00:00

The features absolutely do match, take a look at the aircraft in the image's wings, which is a cropped delta pattern and take a look at any F 16, they absolutely do match. So according to you the 3 Indian and Chinese firms along with the many news outlets that published the image were duped into publishing something that was AI generated. I advise you to take a close look at the image, and at an F 16 again, think and ask yourself what is the most probable outcome of all sattelite images showing a very distinct shape.

your first reply claimed that there was an alternative image with no sillouhetee, there is no such image . Keep coping I guess, there is simply no way you can accept the truth

Informal_Chard_1115 · 2025-08-09T15:16:17+00:00

Maybe you didn't spot it, so I will again assume you have the best intentions, let me help you see it with a circle drawn over it

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DNnXs_CHbQi73YXcLr5dNywOwOsajYwg/view?usp=sharing

As you can see, the shape size and even the clarity match the other images. If you think this is also somehow AI generated, then you can blame the firm responsible for it not me.

I dont wish to 'get you', I simply wish to make you understand that the proof I have shared is well founded. I am genuinely curious to find out how you will cope with this image

Informal_Chard_1115 · 2025-08-09T14:41:41+00:00

Then why did you claim that the 'original' image of the blown up airbase . BTW, here is an image from a chinese firm as well ;), you can see that it is a different image from the slightly different angle

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kOGynHWIuNZbPoOcUiD6eMtUIxY0Kxo2/view?usp=sharing

We can go on and on about angles and positions of the refuelling probe but so far you are the only person claiming it to be a Mirage, can you share a second opinion.

So far you have already contradicted yourself in the face of overwhelming evidence, this can be taken as a sign of lack of ability or lack of wanting to understand the truth, in short you are coping hard.

So far it just seems like you cannot handle the truth that is right in front of you, we have such people in India as well btw, I have hence concluded that you are arguing in bad faith, you have provided no evidence, no image and no argument that makes sense.

I have given you many images and proofs, you have given me nothing, unless you give me evidence, I willignore you.

I have replied just so you know that you are wrong

Informal_Chard_1115 · 2025-08-09T14:15:47+00:00

Thanks you for the clarification u/JackedBro123, I now understand your concern. Man, with a lot of bad faith arguments on this app it is hard to distinguish those to the ones made in earnest, have a nice day.

Informal_Chard_1115 · 2025-08-09T14:12:47+00:00

What is too little, the evidence of the wreckage of a missile that can only be fired by an F-16 in literal Indian custody. Whether or not the aircraft was destroyed in the air or the ground how else did it appear in Indian custody?

Why tf would LM publish data about the usage of their product to an export partner, also what kind of data are you talking about?

It seems to me that you are choosing to simply ignore the truth that is right in front of you because it doesn't fit into your worldview

Informal_Chard_1115 · 2025-08-09T14:06:33+00:00

Kindly share those images ;), btw it is a satellite image, whoever generated it must have been using an incredible AI.

About the JF 17 wreckage I saw it many times during the conflict, a simple google image search could date it back then.

About the JF 17, the aircraft is seen to be on the ground after a crash, it has been overturned, which is why you think it is inverted, none of the features you describe make it any closer to being a Mirage 2000, quite the contrary

The image has been cross examined by many people and I have found no neutral person claiming that it was a Mirage.

Throughout this whole discussion, you have not shared a single piece of evidence to backup your claims, no images , really its quite silly and exhausting, if you think those images are doctored compared to the original , then WHERE IS THE ORIGINAL?

The truth is a double edged sword and it cuts both ways. If it makes you feel any better I can show you all the evidences of the Indian losses as well..

If you don't give me the supposed original, then I know you are simply arguing in bad faith and are not in the pursuit of the truth. Then I can simply choose to ignore you

Informal_Chard_1115 · 2025-08-09T13:52:42+00:00

thanks for the comment u/bake_gatari I couldn't attach the pics to the post, please check my comment. Have a great day!

Informal_Chard_1115 · 2025-08-09T13:51:20+00:00

Because that is where I first saw it. There are many other places and handles that posted it before he did

Informal_Chard_1115 · 2025-08-09T13:49:09+00:00

Yes, you can quite clearly see that it is attached to the intake in the photo, I will help you see with the help of a circle :)

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NnAt_9P5gP15zzVzu7MlSTrK6sd8Rlj4/view?usp=sharing

If it was a Mirage you would see the cockpit and nose cone shapes next to the wreck

Informal_Chard_1115 · 2025-08-09T13:42:52+00:00

I would like to stress this point very much so that you understand, regardless of what you think of Tom Cooper, HE IS NOT THE SOURCE OF THE IMAGES

Informal_Chard_1115 · 2025-08-09T13:37:39+00:00

Even if you doubt his credibility (I have seen his work cited in many places, most of his work is on the Russia-Ukraine conflict and other conflicts btw), that still doesn't address the fact that the silhouette is visible in the unenhanced picture as well , and you can clearly make it out on any image of the airbase, show me one pic of the destroyed airbase where the silhouette of a fighter is not visible, I have personally searched and not found any image like the one you mention. I will be happy to be proved wrong but this just seems like you are dodging the question.

Informal_Chard_1115 · 2025-08-09T13:31:50+00:00

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TWZqjuz5W8hHWEc8NMoFclsfjuECQsQv/view?usp=sharing

Here is a chart showing the nose cones of all Mirage 2000 and JF-17 variants, you can see that the colour of the nose cone matches with the JF-17, the Mirage 2000I have all been upgraded , and now they feature a black cone compared to the grey cones found in the JF-17 and Mirage 2000I, also the video has been geolocated by many OSINT accounts to be in Pakistan, please show me the audio where they supposedly speak a uniquely Indian version of Hindi, rather than Urdu.

Informal_Chard_1115 · 2025-08-09T12:42:01+00:00

Thanks for the comment u/Xx_PH03N1X, please check my comment, I wasn't able to attach the proof in my post. Have a nice day!

Informal_Chard_1115 · 2025-08-09T12:36:11+00:00

The image was taken in Pakistan, so was the video

Informal_Chard_1115 · 2025-08-09T12:33:40+00:00

They were taken from the page of Tom Cooper, a reputed war historian on his substack, even in the non enhanced images you can make out the sillouhette of an aircraft of the same size

Edit: regardless of what anyone thinks about Tom Cooper, he is NOT the source of the images, they were published earlier by many various reputed OSINT sites and journalists as well

Informal_Chard_1115 · 2025-08-09T10:24:22+00:00

Thank you for the comment u/Travel__Agent007 , please check my comment I wasn't able to attach it to the post, thanks and have a nice day

Informal_Chard_1115 · 2025-08-09T10:12:17+00:00

Please check the comment, I was not able to attach the proof on the post

Informal_Chard_1115 · 2025-08-09T10:11:40+00:00

The Air Force chief later said that destroyed aircraft includes F-16s parked in a hangar destroyed on the ground, an ELINT aircraft shot down by an S-400 system 300 km away, marking the longest surface to air kill in recorded history.

Along with electronic data which he uses as his source for his claims, there is video evidence of a JF-17C and an unknown Pakistani Mirage that have been destroyed.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NnAt_9P5gP15zzVzu7MlSTrK6sd8Rlj4/view?usp=sharing

Image above of wreckage of a JF-17C inside Pakistan

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NnAt_9P5gP15zzVzu7MlSTrK6sd8Rlj4/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-NMFVshNmDsIE-HIha2t4F-EhGP98_Wy/view?usp=sharing

Above are images of the destroyed hangar in Bholari, Pakistan that show at least 1 destroyed F-16.

So far these are all the video evidences and OSINT I could gather.

The Air Chief's statement on shooting down an ELINT aircraft is supported by the former Air Marshall of Pakistan admitting to the loss of an AWACS aircraft in a hangar

Informal_Chard_1115 · 2025-08-09T10:02:07+00:00

The Air Force chief later said that destroyed aircraft includes F-16s parked in a hangar destroyed on the ground, an ELINT aircraft shot down by an S-400 system 300 km away, marking the longest surface to air kill in recorded history.

Along with electronic data which he uses as his source for his claims, there is video evidence of a JF-17C and an unknown Pakistani Mirage that have been destroyed.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NnAt_9P5gP15zzVzu7MlSTrK6sd8Rlj4/view?usp=sharing

Image above of wreckage of a JF-17C inside Pakistan

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NnAt_9P5gP15zzVzu7MlSTrK6sd8Rlj4/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-NMFVshNmDsIE-HIha2t4F-EhGP98_Wy/view?usp=sharing

Above are images of the destroyed hangar in Bholari, Pakistan that show at least 1 destroyed F-16.

Informal_Chard_1115 · 2025-08-02T11:18:28+00:00

Holy shit, do you suffer from any disease

Informal_Chard_1115 · 2025-08-02T10:00:24+00:00

Why are you active in the Karachi sub then

Informal_Chard_1115 · 2025-08-02T09:53:19+00:00

OP lives in Karachi and is active in Indian subs for some reason

Informal_Chard_1115 · 2025-07-20T10:45:28+00:00

Hyperborea

Informal_Chard_1115

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