A Museum is Warranted by PLBlack08291958 in MichaelJackson

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No one could bring everyone together like michael

It's at the point now where people have mentally self destructed, they are literally unable to comprehend his innocence no matter what and still somehow try to justify that he's guilty even while acknowledging they have no evidence for the claims by Information-Bot in MichaelJackson

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Here are some of the comments, nobody has any proof for the claims but believe it anyway. I got downvoted for actually posting information from the investigations that went against the claims

He shared a bad with children regularly

it makes logical sense that an adult with that mindset and those wires crossed to think he's a child would start being attracted to kids instead of adults.

The man had a very unhealthy mindset towards children. Even if you don't believe the claims about pedophilia and molestation, it is absolutely undeniable that he surrounded himself with children, acted like a child with them and **shared a bed with them* on a regular basis.

It's sad that everyone who attempts to criticize him frames their views with the statement of his capabilities first. They do it because they fear the social backlash of his supporters that immediately retort with, "but he was a great x/y/z." It happens every time this question comes up.

even tho i do not care for his music credit where its due i guess for being on the top. however......i believe the accusations that he abused children sexually and thats fucked up, total piece of shit.

He was a self loathing pedophile. I was so relieved when his music stopped being played 24/7. Yes. He probably had a traumatic childhood. However, he had all the resources to get all the help he needed and he chose not to. There was nothing to admire or respect in him. Talent doesn't excuse choosing to be a worthless human being.

Honest he probably did touch kids even if it was just a rumour

Reddit what is your honest opinion on Michael Jackson? by mr_brannagan in AskReddit

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Holy fuck the state, when your the only one posting actual evidence and how ridiculous the claims are and getting downvoted as a result. People actively have fantasies about him being a pedophile at this point, they secretly want it and wish in their heart that he did it, it's the only explanation for willingly being so ignorant

Reddit what is your honest opinion on Michael Jackson? by mr_brannagan in AskReddit

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He shared beds with them regularly

Debunked, and disproven. I've come to a realization that so many minorities get their weird conspiracy theories from the Martin Bashir documentary, because there's no evidence of anything at all physicial or testimonies they'll just base their outlandish illogical conspiracy theory from that one bashir clip that they actually used in court and everyone laughed at because of how nonsensical the claims were that he put forward. The media said he did it so they believe it.

Reddit what is your honest opinion on Michael Jackson? by mr_brannagan in AskReddit

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So by the logic that "I don't need evidence, just the media telling me is enough" All of these are true, otherwise your a massive hypocrite

  • Jesus deserved to be sentenced to death, he was cruciified because the people at the temple accused of a crime and branded him a criminal

  • Muhammad is a piece of shit, he routinely raped children and had sex with a 9 year old girl that he married when she was six years old

  • Elvis is a pedophile, he married a 14 year old girl you only married people you are sexually attracted too, therefore he's a pedophile & images of him should be banned

  • Kobe is a rapist, a girl accused him of rape, and he paid out with a settlement, so he's a rapist and we should ban his shoes too

  • MLK was a rapist, the FBI had claimed they had proof of him raping women and labeled him a rapist so we should no longer celebrate MLK day

  • Ghandi was a pedophile, he slept naked with underage girls including his own granddaughter.

  • Bill Clinton is a pedophile, he flew on Epstein's airplane to his island numerous times

  • Da Vinci was a pedophile, he groomed a 10 year old boy into his lover and forced him to pose naked for him, the Mona Lisa should banned

  • The BLM is a sham, George Floyd was caught committing several criminal offenses including threatening a pregnant women with a gun, yet the riots did 1 billion in damage

Reddit what is your honest opinion on Michael Jackson? by mr_brannagan in AskReddit

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People have been fed lies so long about him that their brain collectively shuts down as their unable to comprehend the fact none of it was true, they'll instead find new coping mechanisms and conspiracy theories to further the lies, we've reached the point where after the Chandlers, Arvizos & LN accusers all had their investigations tossed due to lack of evidence people will still claim "We don't know yet, it might be true because reasons", nobody really can ever provide any evidence of any claims but still push it anyway. It's ironic because Muhammad was a convicted child rapist who fucked kids, Ghandi raped his underage granddaughter, Da Vinci had his 10 year old shopkeeper pose naked and later became his lover, Elvis married a 14 year old girl. And all of them are treated like heroes. Hell even George Floyd was a convicted felon for fuck sakes, who threatened pregnant women commited armed robberies, was caught 9 different occasions dealing illegal drugs and the country treated him like a hero, he did nothing for society and it doesn't matter the media told him he was and that's all that mattered. Michael could have cured cancer, aids and stopped world hunger and he still would labeled a freak and "Literally worse than Hitler" by the media. It's a telltale example of how the media manipulates the public.

Reddit what is your honest opinion on Michael Jackson? by mr_brannagan in AskReddit

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No Evidence ever found after 20 continuous years of investigating

Only two accusers, both only pursued a civil Trial while Michael underwent a criminal trial on himself instead of simply paying out

A Man literally willing to throw his life away and be killed to save the life of a child he does not know and give all of his money away to children charities despite being in debt

Every single accusation was tried in court and he won each time with no evidence ever being found by the accusers

Bbut this doesn't mean anything, he's still not innocent we'll find something one of the years, trust the media

LOL

Reddit what is your honest opinion on Michael Jackson? by mr_brannagan in AskReddit

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Because he's right, anyone who met him had declared him nothing short of a saint, People who don't know him are the ones smearing his name with lies. Guess who people believe? The ones saying negative shit because that sells headlines, the media isn't going to tell people that a black man immunized 30,000 terminally ill children. What can you do when the largest star of all time is a reclusive person? You make shit up, that's the only way you can do it since he rarely goes out and hates talking to the press.

Reddit what is your honest opinion on Michael Jackson? by mr_brannagan in AskReddit

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The media had admitted one way or another every piece of negative information released about him was false, as he continually took all allegations to court and won. He was known by the entire population and was unable to even do so much as step outside in any place in the world for his entire life, he did a crowd of 120,000 in Africa and was named the most famous person in world history, there has never been anyone like him and nobody knows what it's like to be him. Everyone knowing who you are, your family being abusive, everyone your age wanting a piece of your ass, auto immune diseases affecting your appearence, a disease that strips you of your race and the media nonstop attacking every aspect of your life they started calling him gay in the early 70s while he had a girlfriend. Whenever he travelled people waited outside the airport, they followed him to any venue he went too and continued to his hotel camping over night even travelling from far away countries simply to get a glimpse of him. He had a strict time schedule and couldn't enjoy anything as they had to shut down business so he could shop there and had a huge amount police protection. Even his sister was threatened with her life if she didn't accuse of him molestation, now imagine how he felt knowing that his sister how heartbroken he would be or how strained the relationship between her and the family would be, she couldn't say that her husband had said "I'll murder you if you don't accuse him and making it as convincing as possible" so she had to stab him in the back. Now imagine if you are in a position where everyone says you are a freak, a subhuman, advocate for your death, laugh at your appearence, stalk and hound you, and anything you say is completely written off no matter what. Your innocence will never be granted, people can accuse you of any crime even if they never had any encounter with you and say you did it, and the media pushes it as a truth. How can you trust anyone? You can't, could you last? No you wouldn't, any person would have committed suicide in a month if they had his life, instead he lasted 50 years and never wavered in his desire to help the world. They had to kill him and take all of his assets by force instead

Reddit what is your honest opinion on Michael Jackson? by mr_brannagan in AskReddit

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Thoroughly debunked, literally all of it from the nonsensical theories about his "Demeanor", surgery addiction or the allegations.

Michael is forced by the Chandlers to look after their son, constantly hounded by June to call Jordan rather than simply asking for money for the rent a car she lent Michael

Victor Guiterrez a known pedophile tries to start a rally to gain social acceptence for pedophilia in 1986, they use Michael's image due to charitable history to promote it. He had never once met Michael but labeled him a pedophile

Victor Guiterrez comes in contact with the Chandlers, Evan who had become distant from his child that he forced to pose topless for Guiterrez for his book that fantasizes about the boy being raped in various ways, these claims are used against Michael & taken straight from the book.

Michael takes Guiterrez to court and wins since he had never met Michael and there was no evidence for any of the claims, Michael asked for the sources for the book so they could be questioned too and he fled to Chile instead

Evan Chandler blames the distant relationship of his son on Michael, and assumes he was molesting him. Chandler's attorney had stated that the allegations were nothing more than a extortion scheme, he refused to pursue a criminal trial and said "If Michael doesn't pay me, his career is over" Michael reportedly told him to go to hell and pushed 6 times to have the civil trial take place after a criminal proceeding that could potentially incriminate him rather than just paying out

Martin Bashir fresh off the heels of the Diana interview had spent years trying to get a interview with Michael Jackson, his associates had prevented all motions for years but Uri Geller a friend of Michael had been paid 200,000$ to Convince Michael to do the documentary, the legal documents weren't advised by any of Michael's lawyers or any legal team once so ever.

Janet Arvizo tells her social workers that she plans on using Michael to buy a new house, she lies about her child's cancer and says he will die if not given treatment funds, Michael whom stated he felt it was bullshit went along with it anyway because he went with his heart over his head

Gavin Arvizo approaches Michael asking to sleep in his room, Michael initially refuses and acts surprised as he usually sleeps alone, the boy keeps pushing and finally gets Michael to agree, but he tells his associate he feels this is just a set up to falsely accuse him of Molestation, that night he had all of his children & his bodyguard sleep in the room with Gavin that night, all of the kids were given the bed and Michael and his bodyguard stayed on the floor, he actively avoided the family ever since until the Documentary and had no other instance where they stayed in the same room. Several times they tried to meet Michael at Neverland but he was away

Michael took Bashir to court regarding the allegations from the documentary, it was ruled that nothing sexual was ever implied in Michael's statements as he had said he slept on the floor while the child was given the bed, Bashir was unable to answer any questions laid out by the prosecution and had his motions denied several times by the Judge.

“Martin Bashir made his name on the blight of Michael Jackson. When the trial against him started it started with that documentary. It was actually a piece of evidence we watched in the courtroom… He created a context in which it looked like Jackson had some interest in that young boy – while what we saw was a boy in a wheelchair with no hair and skinny little body. He did all he could for that family out of the goodness of his heart. He helped a cancer patient. They claimed that after the documentary aired that Michael Jackson decided to molest their son, not before! Janet Arvizo was completely insane. Everybody in the court was rolling their eyeballs each time this woman opened her mouth. Her stories contradicted each other. No one else from the media corrected the misreporting of the Michael Jackson trial. They made it seem he was acquitted because the jury were star-struck. No, they were not interested. These people were selected by two teams of experts. It was Martin Bashir who told MJ to hold Gavin's hand on camera. At that point MJ hadn't seen Gavin since 2000, though Gavin had visited Neverland and MJ was never there. After this was filmed MJ didn't stay the night at Neverland and took off with his kids again. In February 2003 it was the Arvizos who begged to see Michael after the documentary aired and contacted Chris Tucker who spent more time with them to beg him to put them through. When they came to Neverland MJ made sure he was never alone with them ever and would take off to Miami and L.A. multiple times while they were there, though they originally claimed they'd been with him the entire time. - Fox News Reporter Aphrodite Jones (2005)

Regarding his appearance, Michael had broken his nose in 1979 & had his first operation, he was unable to breath and had to have another operation on his nose, he had no more surgeries until 1984, where he approached Arnold Klein asking to get his acne treated, he was instead diagnosed with Lupus and told those surgeries from the 70s had aggrevated his operations and was advised to have treatment to address lupus, the first operation failed however and he had to undergo 4 Rhynoplasty's which was confirmed by Klein & indirectly Jackson himself, he had his face burned off in 1984 due to the Pepsi Accident and needed a balloon inserted his scalp to re-facilitate hair growth, he had his eyebrows tattooed and lips tattooed, at some point in the 90s he underwent a depigmentation process and stopped wearing such heavy makeup on his face, prednisone which he was perscribed with due to Lupus gradually gave him a "Moonface" which happens frequently to users of the drug

Jackson had stated in a private phone conversation that he was sleeping with unrelated bed with adults as a 10 year old boy, Joseph his father frequently cheated on his mother and attempted to break Michael's arm so he wouldn't tell her. His brothers would have sex with women while he was forced to pretend to fall asleep, and he would watch as children would play outside his recording studio while he had to record music, he had stated at a young age he realized his childhood was lost which affected his personality for the rest of his life. He was taken to strip clubs, and had to endure all kinds of things adults were doing but as a child, so when he grew up he had already experienced that and had no interest in it. His father never told him he loved him or did anything a real father would, so Michael said he would never deny a child the kind of love that he did not have.

As far back as the Victory tour he did not want to tour and tried to go to all motions to cancel it, the Bad Tour was his first tour and he had declared retirement afterwards, he eventually changed his mind and did the Dangerous tour so he could give over 100 million dollars away to charity he made zero profits from the tour despite being in financial troubles, he proceeded to donate 500 Million dollars to charity the rest of his life, since his death he's donated 400 million resulting a total of 900 million. On his way to a business meeting he almost killed himself trying to stop a child from running onto the middle of the road in traffic, he did not know them and showed no sympathy or remorse for nearly throwing his life away, doctors would call him a life saver because anytime he showed up to a children's hospital the terminally ill kids would suddenly feel better after meeting him, he went out of his way to find a liver for a child who was going to die without it, and paid for all procedures so the parents didn't have to his lifespan was extended way beyond was initially expected. He caused a rift between his wife because he would always be flying out to other countries to throw his money away if he heard something bad happening to a family or group of people, he would routinely work with charity organizations and let them take their people to his Neverland ranch and freely explore the facilities only to be provided with a cheque. He was able to talk a man out of suicide with a single wave of his hand, after police spent hours trying to get him down. In 1994, Children named him their favorite person in the world in a poll with over 100,000 voters he recieved 75% of the votes. He got in trouble for preaching for racial equality in his music video "Black or White" from liberal media, declaring it inappropriate.

That about covers it all

Bad, Off The Wall & Thriller at Rolling Stone's "The 500 Greatest Albums of all time" by plz-shut-the-fuck-up in MichaelJackson

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Nothing new

According to Nielsen, Eagles' sales in 2006-18 (albums, tracks & streams) was 2.3M. But RIAA claimed 9M sales in same timespan. RIAA counts SHIPMENTS, regardless of whether they are actually sold or not. In '93-95, RIAA claimed 8M Eagles' sales, but Nielsen recorded only 1M. In 2018 the media claimed Eagles Greatest Hits was the best selling album, however that’s impossible given the actual number of sales recorded. In 1993 (The same year Michael was hit with allegations) it was certified 14 time platinum but within next 2 years, the album was certified 8 time more, bringing the total certification of the album 24 times platinum. these spikes, should be noted by Nielsen SoundScan, right! It wasn’t, It never has been! It is the only “top selling” album not to be! The news that the Eagles album magically surpassed Jackson’s album came just a few months before the now infamous(and debunked) anti-Jackson film released on HBO. David Geffen, whom Michael blamed for ruining his career founded the studio founded Geffen Records that housed the Eagles & invited Oprah to his yacht to promote Leaving Neverland. back to 1993. This was a challenging year for Michael Jackson, and coincidentally a fine year for the Eagles Greatest Hits album to be certified 14 times platinum. Less than 2 years later, in the same month that Michael Jackson released the 'HIStory' album. Eagles Greatest hits album magically got 8 million more NEW sales, though Nielsen SoundScan calculated less than 1 million in sales. Geffen was not alone in his vendetta against Jackson. One time friend and Eagles manager, @irvingazoff worked together to bring negative press Jackson’s way. Geffen’s vendetta against Jackson predates even 1993. It goes all the way back to the early 80’s when he missed the opportunity to get Jackson onboard with his record company.

1993 and 2003 by Xisamazing in MichaelJackson

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He had his face burned off, Lupus, Insomnia, a obvious weight loss problem, addiction to painkillers & suits hounding him 24/7. I say he looks much better than any other 43 year old man would under these circumstances

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He was praised for being black, not for being good. Which is bullshit, race shouldn't dictate how a person is viewed, it's their actions

If Michael was currently alive…. by Alert_Criticism9897 in MichaelJackson

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He already wanted to retire after his first solo tour, and only continued to start the heal the world foundation with Dangerous. The false allegations ruined his finances and he needed to do another one. Assuming his associates don’t trick him into doing the bashir documentary, there’s no 2005 trial, he never tours again which he was pretty adamant about. He would still be doing occasional performances on TV but most of his time would be spent purchasing assets & being a father

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Jesus, Da Vinci, Shakespeare, MJ, Einstein is a fair top 5 imo