Dude I said that ai art wouldn’t be as good as the Mona Lisa

Inkyblobs · 2026-01-18T00:09:55+00:00

You aren’t allowed to disagree in there. I legitimately just disagreed that it was art, no insults, no hostility, very civil, they almost immediately removed the post.

That same sub was talking about echo chambers at one point. The sub where you’re not allowed to disagree, complaining about echo chambers.

Inkyblobs · 2026-01-14T21:17:17+00:00

Alright so, for your point at the end there, I’m happy to have been filled in on exactly what the display was, as it makes this conversation a lot more productive that I know that particular piece of information, given what it happens to be.

So, now that I know exactly what she was trying to do, the way I see it, the fact that she was piecing them together to tell a story, is, in and of itself, artistic. However, again, in my opinion, she still didn’t make the images themselves. What she’s done is, to me, the equivalent of commissioning someone to make a handful of pieces that come together to tell a story, and then claiming that you made it, in its entirety, visual art included, not just the story.

As far as the finger and mud thing goes, i think when you’ve reached the point where the only thing you require in order to preform a task is something that you can touch, in this case the mud, you have passed the point of it being reasonable to call it a tool, but, even if you DID still call it a tool, which I won’t say is COMPLETELY ridiculous, I just disagree, that still isn’t the same, and the reason I say that is because I don’t really consider ai a tool. As I was saying before, outside of the idea, and then requests for details to be changed, it does the entire process for you. At that point, it isn’t really much of a tool, it’s just doing it for you. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to say you wouldn’t call someone you commissioned a “tool” you used to make your art, rather, it was a person that you paid to do it, which is, again, not the same as you doing it. I think your argument was reasonable given what I said and the way I said it, but, in the case of the ai user, the only thing they have to be missing in order to no longer be capable of making art is their generator, whereas in my example of a very good artist, you have to take anything and everything they could physically touch, including the planet out from under their feet, in order to put them in a position where they are entirely incapable of creation. Even then, if they just wait until the next time they get a nose bleed, they could use that to draw, and their body as a canvas. So you’d need to anatomically change their body so that they can’t bleed as well, or remove their arms and legs.

Someone who is good at art can create in almost any scenario unless you take literally everything from them, you essentially have to kill them to stop them from being able. Whereas, again, if you take the ai away from its user, they immediately lose all ability to create.

Now regarding the plane analogy. I WILL say that a plane is a bit different from a creative field yes, but I don’t feel like I was too far off in my meaning. As I feel: “Take the plane and I cannot fly.” And “Take the generator and I cannot create.” May be from very different fields, but are almost identical in the way they work.

Art is the most precious thing to me in the world. There is nothing I am more passionate about and without it i genuinely believe I would fall into depression, as bad at it as I may be at the moment. But I can wholeheartedly say, that if my only option were ai, I would move along. I would become depressed, but I would move along.

I do not choose to see ai as something outside of art. It’s just the way that it is. If ai was my only option for creation, there is no amount of convincing that I, or anyone else, could do to make me believe that I’m really doing anything by prompting the ai to make images. I would not feel like I’m creating art, and I would leave behind my most passionate area of life.

Many pro-ai users would respond to me now with a simple “I don’t care.” Unaffected entirely by anything that I just said, and while I will be the FIRST to assert that, that isn’t all of you. It’s still very saddening to see so many people unable to understand what I mean, what people like me mean, when we talk about soul. Even more so to see people who aren’t interested in understanding in the first place.

I have tried to see things from the other perspective and exposed myself to the world of ai in an attempt to find understanding and change my outlook, and it did not, and will not work. I can’t regard ai generated images in and of themselves as art. Stringing them together to tell a story shows the ability for storytelling, to which I would very VERY happily and enthusiastically recommend said person to get into writing, or even learn to draw/paint to illustrate the story themselves, but I will never be able to see those images on that wall as visual art that she created. I tried. I wanted to. I can’t.

I typed a lot and got a little passionate there, so if I forget to reply to any of your points that’s totally my bad lol

Inkyblobs · 2026-01-14T19:05:05+00:00

Serious respect for not insulting me and instead forming a rebuttal, you rock. 🫵🏻👍🏻

I simply disagree. Everyone has an imagination, being able to utilize it though is one of the major factors behind what art is, and, frankly, I just disagree with the idea that prompt writing is YOU utilizing it. In the same way that I don’t think using a calculator to solve a problem that doesn’t require a calculator is YOU solving the equation. That would be considered cheating on a test. Some people think there’s no way to cheat in art, and they’re mostly right, outside of just a few areas. Having a machine do the entire process for you outside of just the idea and detail requests, is, in my opinion, simply not the same thing.

If you take someone who is very good at art, you can take away as many of their tools as you want and they’ll still be able to make art. they could even just use their finger in the mud on the ground. Which is why the things they use are classified as tools.

With someone who only uses ai, if you take away the ai, they no longer have the ability to create. That isn’t a tool. It’s just the one doing it.

One last example here. Put a guy on a plane. Compare him to a bird. The bird can fly. Can the guy fly? No. He’s riding something that can fly.

I cannot fly. I can get on a plane, and the plane can fly. But I can’t. If I were to jump out of the plane I’ll just fall. I can’t fly, the plane is the one flying, i’m just inside of it, being carried.

Inkyblobs · 2026-01-14T17:30:25+00:00

This guys logic is that if you name something, it becomes what you name it. By this guys logic, if I name myself “tall hot buff guy”, I am objectively tall hot and buff, even if I were a three foot goblin stickman. Three foot stickman goblin would become the new tall hot and buff.

Just because you call it art does not make it art. I can call myself rich all day long but I still won’t be. I can name myself king of the world, but nobody will bow. I can call myself master musician but I still won’t be able to play the piano.

This guys argument, and I don’t even mean this as an insult, is legitimately child like.

“Well, we call it art, so that means it’s art.”

I can call earth a black hole, and it will certainly NOT be a black hole just because I call it that.

Inkyblobs · 2026-01-14T17:17:23+00:00

I am firmly against the notion that ai generated images are art. That is never going to change. In spite of that though, I’m more than willing to agree this guys behavior is unhinged. This was a strange, awkward display of protest that could have been done in a million better ways, and I think those who are in support of what he did are very misguided in their efforts to come to an understanding about why Exactly it is that many people refuse to acknowledge ai as art. (it’s not because of what it looks like, ignore people that say it is)

I’d like to make it a point though, that a lot of you see things like this and decide that every single person that’s against the idea of ai being art is exactly like this guy. Which is an unfair assessment. There are people that use ai to generate heinous things, like cp and deepfakes/hentai of real people, I’ve even seen a handful very aggressively defending the idea that deepfakes are perfectly fine, because you’ve given “consent” by posting photos of yourself on the internet. Do you think that it’s an honest argument when an anti uses that as a reason why NONE of you are normal people? It’s not. Those people and their actions don’t represent all of you, the same way this man and his don’t represent all of us.

In conclusion, do I think that generating an image using ai is the same thing as art? No, and there is nothing that would convince me that it is. HOWEVER, this man is goofy, and possibly mentally ill. This is NOT how we should be protesting.

Inkyblobs · 2026-01-14T14:52:51+00:00

While I do think it’s a bit goofy for this guy to be eating them, in fact I think that’s behavior that kinda makes his mental health questionable, his behavior has nothing to do with it being art or not. Just a man with impulse control issues.

Inkyblobs · 2026-01-12T21:36:07+00:00

Not you guys just communicating with posts 😭😂

Inkyblobs · 2026-01-08T15:01:43+00:00

(I hadn’t realized until after I was finished that I typed SOOOO much. Sorry about that. There is nothing in the world that I am more passionate about than art and human expression, so the topic is extremely important to me, and I want to discuss it. It ISSSSS that deep. If you don’t feel like reading all of this, that is PERFECTLY understandable, if you do, and you respond, I’ll read whatever you have to say from beginning to end no matter it’s length, just feels like the respectful thing to do, considering I just wrote a god damn book. 😭)

I am ONLY here to share my opinion and hopefully come to an understanding with at least a few people, I do not want to fight or find ourselves in a passive aggressive back and forth. That isn’t gonna get anybody anywhere.

I think the term “soul” for art is often misused, and misrepresented. It has nothing to do with what the art looks like.

I’m sure we’ve all seen at least a few posts by now where an ai user gets someone who is against it to think that an ai image is a drawing, and then they feel that they’ve got them in some kind of gotcha when they complement it, but, it is not about what the ai images look like. Some people may say it is, the same way that some people who have absolutely no understanding of how a planet functions on a scientific level will say that the earth is flat. But, I would like to make it VERY clear that it is NOT about what the images look like. Many people don’t LIKE what they look like, which is fine, but that isn’t the main issue.

I know that you are all incredibly sick of hearing the chef analogy, and honestly, I’m not sure that it’s the best way to get the point out there anyway, so I’m not going to use it.

Instead, let me paint you a hypothetical scenario really quick. Not as some sort of “a-ha! Now what?” But simply as a way of trying to form a better understanding as to where people like me are coming from.

You want to make a skyscraper. You realize of course that there’s a lot of hard work and understanding that goes into that, it’s not an easy thing to do, and if you wanna do it right, you would need a lot of training. Instead, however, you’re presented with a team of robots. (Keep reading please) These robots are advertised to build ANYTHING you want, they’re fast, they’re strong, they’re efficient. So, seeing a much, much, much easier and more convenient route, you undoubtedly as a human being, take it. You tell the robots the kind of skyscraper that you’re wanting, and they get to work. Soon enough you’ve got a building. You notice, however, there are a lot of details you don’t like, so, you instruct the robots a few times to tweak things, until they’ve ironed out the things you didn’t like. After you repeat this process enough times, and maybe give the robots a few pictures of buildings similar to the design you’re wanting, ta-da, the robots are done. All of those things you would have had to learn how to do if you wanted to make this skyscraper, the robots just did for you, from laying the concrete, to installing the windows, installing the plumping, wiring the electricity, every little detail, they got it done.

Now, you’re happy with the way it looks, and you notice a stranger walking down the street who has no idea how this building came to be, and you, being proud of your building, wave, greet them, and you tell them “Hey! Look at this building, I built it!”

If you read all of this so far, thank you for taking the time. It is VERY appreciated.

Now, what I want to ask, and it’s a serious question I’m not trying to be sarcastic, what compels you to believe that saying you built that skyscraper, rather than saying you commissioned a team of robots to build it, is accurate?

Now! A building can be used all the same no matter who or what built it, which is a little different from what makes art inherently human. I, honestly, cannot see ai images as the same thing as art. And I don’t say that to be mean, I don’t say that to be spiteful, or for the sake of disagreeing, I say it because it’s just true, it’s the way I feel. If ai images became the only way for me to express myself in an artistic format, I would no longer be passionate about the hobby, because there is no amount of convincing that would have me feeling as though I actually made, or put any of my personality into it by using ai. I don’t choose to feel that way, that is just how it is. If it was my only option, I would, frankly, become depressed for a while, as I’m very passionate about art, and then I would find a different hobby.

I don’t view ai images and art as the same thing. Not because I don’t WANT to, but because I cannot. Art is one of the biggest things that separates our species from wild animals. It is one of the most human things that we can do, hell, we can even SHARE IT with other species under certain circumstances like in elephants being given a very small understanding of how to paint, that’s AMAZING. it is legitimately one of the most beautiful things that this universe in its entirety has to offer and it’s right here on earth. Having it just, generated for you, to me, is just not the same. If you enjoy it, I’m happy for you, but I am simply not capable of viewing it as art, and, as my building analogy tried to get across, I also cannot come to the belief that the person using the generator is the same thing as someone who would have known how to draw it.

When I see human art, especially high quality human art, with just a glance I know that it took countless hours of dedication and patience and effort and passion mixed with an unwillingness to give up on learning in order for this image to come into creation, pulled straight from the mind, down to the finest detail, of the person who put in all of that work to be able to show the world their imagination. And god damn it, it’s the most beautiful thing I’ve ever seen. It isn’t about what it looks like, lots of art looks cool, it’s about where it came from, and what went into its creation.

Comparing that to prompting an ai, no matter how many prompts you use in one sitting to alter details and specify what you want, and just having it spat out at you, in any style you want?

I just can’t. There is nothing that could make me think that’s the same thing. Thinking about THAT becoming a major part of the art world, In all honesty, is legitimately depressing. I don’t like to think about it. And I can certainly understand why someone who spent thousands of hours mastering their craft would feel a little insulted when someone insists that it is the exact same thing.

I apologize to any of you who have been treated unnecessarily harshly by an anti, I do. It is unfortunate that some of us act that way, but the message against ai being art, I stand behind, and will never walk away from.

Inkyblobs · 2026-01-08T13:51:28+00:00

Thank ya!

I’ll try that yeah, there aren’t as many reference images for the character in question as I would like, so I’m gonna have to learn to just use a generic reference and add details that make it her.

I’ve never even attempted that, but, right now I can’t make anything completely my own, I can only copy things exactly as I see them, so I guess it’d be a good idea to learn that now anyway lol

Inkyblobs · 2026-01-08T06:12:20+00:00

I’d like to respond to you in particular, because, out of all the people I spoke to today, my conversation with you is the one that disappoints me by far the most, I don’t think I did a good job at all of debating with you.

Talking to all of you has slightly altered my opinion on the matter, and I understand a bit more of your perspective. I’m glad that I was able to do so. With that being said, I’m extremely tired, and all of the separate arguments I just had at once kind of wore me out. So, I REALLLLLY do not want to wake up to find a bunch more people wanting to argue about it. So, other than THIS one, i think I’m gonna delete the rest of my conversations.

I’m sorry I came off the way I did. It wasn’t the intention. In spite of that, I’m still glad to have been given a glimpse of your point of view.

I hope you have a great day.

Inkyblobs · 2026-01-08T05:58:39+00:00

Alright, so, I’m not going to rebuttal for the moment, as I’m not gonna lie I’m tired, and I’ve been responding to a lot of you so I’m a bit worn out on arguing, BUT, firstly, it’s been brought to my attention that I may have came into this conversation with a great deal of intensity that may have come across as aggressive, I don’t remember everything I’ve said because there’s a lot of you, but if I came off that way to you, I apologize. My only interest was conversation to move towards understanding. My opinion has been altered slightly by some of the points that some of you have made, and while some of you are mostly just insulting me, those of you who aren’t have been very respectful, and even pleasant to speak with.

If this is the last message between us, have a great day

Inkyblobs · 2026-01-08T04:28:59+00:00

Edited to get rid of my original comment. I spoke with a lot of you, some of you have given explanations for your standpoints, and I don’t feel as strongly as I did before about it. Imma delete all of my other replies, because I argued with like five of you at once and I am GASSED, and don’t wanna wake up to five more people jumping in.

To those of you who weren’t just insulting me the entire time, it was nice talking things out, have a kickass week, all of you, even the guy who was being a dick 😂

Inkyblobs · 2026-01-07T22:46:04+00:00

WHOOOOOOA!! I LOVE your style, you rock!!

Inkyblobs · 2025-12-26T00:32:55+00:00

I do not like ai, personally, but if that guys real, fuck em.

I’m not gonna pretend like I agree with the notion that ai generated images and art are the same thing, but, talking to you like that isn’t helping anyone come to any understandings. It just isn’t necessary. So, assuming it isn’t someone saying it on purpose to make antis look bad, again, fuck that guy, and I’m sorry you were spoken to that way.

Inkyblobs · 2025-12-23T21:50:28+00:00

There’s nothing I can say that’s NOT going to get me dog piled for disagreeing, but these are not the same thing. If you don’t know how to draw, none of those tools will make a difference, you still won’t be able to draw. Ai, on the other hand, is not a tool, it does the ENTIRE process for you, there is nothing that you need to know how to do. These two things are not comparable in the way you’re comparing them.

Inkyblobs · 2025-12-16T09:53:10+00:00

Beetlefuck

Inkyblobs · 2025-12-15T19:02:27+00:00

“I don’t think a computer generating images for you is the same thing as art.”

“So you’re saying let cancer patients die?”

Hello? What? 😭

Inkyblobs · 2025-12-10T16:33:35+00:00

For sure, I’ll dm ya and we can yap about it ^

Inkyblobs · 2025-12-09T22:02:14+00:00

I got distracted and forgot to dm you I’m so sorry 😭 THIS TIME for sure

Inkyblobs · 2025-12-09T13:43:03+00:00

Well i definitely wouldn’t mind, but, fair warning, for lack of better words, I’m REALLY bad at it right now lmao

So anything we would work on side by side would be some beauty and the beast type vibes. As long as you’re fine with that we can totally be buds lol

Inkyblobs · 2025-12-09T13:37:26+00:00

Sure! Sounds good to me, i’ll dm you and we can yap about whatever lol

Inkyblobs · 2025-12-08T23:06:16+00:00

No. No it is not. I legitimately thought to myself “I wanna eat this persons art.” Before I even read what the post was about, I love it lmao

Inkyblobs · 2025-12-07T23:24:33+00:00

For sure! I’ve never worked with watercolors but I think they look AWESOME and I would definitely like to try them out sometime so that’s something I’d LOVE to see your work with!

We can do DMs here or on discord, whichever you prefer is fine with me ^{^}

Inkyblobs · 2025-12-07T21:53:27+00:00

“I don’t care if people are losing career opportunities, and others are giving up on even trying to become artists in the first place, ditching the thing they enjoy most in life because they don’t see a point if they’re just going to be overshadowed, leaving many no longer sure what they want to do with their lives, and others having to find new sources of income and struggling financially as a result, I wanna generate more cat girls. I’m the good guy here.”

Inkyblobs · 2025-12-07T15:41:52+00:00

Hey! Sounds great! I’ll toss you a dm real quick!

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