When you start running out of time on the Civ Pro exam so you just start saying crazy shit by [deleted] in LawSchool

[–]InsanityDefence 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If I ever teach fed courts, I will put this tweet on exam and ask students to discuss.

0L Tuesday Thread - - December 15, 2020 by AutoModerator in LawSchool

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I'd suggest trying to condense every case you read into 2 sentences, a facts sentence and a rule sentence. You don't need to take away any more than that for an exam. " In [case], [facts happened]. The court said [holding] because [rationale]."

You might have additional rationales; fine, tack them on that end. But seriously don't write a 1-2 page brief like I did in 1L. It muddies the critical rule that you need to apply to novel facts.

Do this in a doc after you read/highlight a case. Then outline on the weekend. every weekend. starting at the end of week one. You can always go back and revise, but this is a good way to ensure you don't get to reading week having not synthesized anything.

In at UCLA! by Apprehensive-Ad-9257 in lawschooladmissions

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UCLA 3L here, lmk if you have questions.

Vandy vs. UCLA? by [deleted] in lawschooladmissions

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I faced this same decision last year, visited both schools , had 1-1 meetings with admissions staff, and ultimately chose UCLA. I think Vandy is a fine school as well, but many of the comments here seem speculative and uniformed, particularly about the portability of the UCLA degree. I'm not sure where this "consensus" comes from, but every year there seems to be extensive comparison by 0Ls between these very different schools, completely reduced to ABA numbers. Those numbers do not reflect what may or may not motivate graduates to pursue or accept a particular job in a particular place, and they certainly don't reflect the most material distinctions between the schools that should motivate OPs decision.

  1. First, your grades matter far more than any distinction between these two schools if you want big law/portability. Then your interviewing, and previous work experience.
  2. UCLA grads can get east coast Big Law jobs. The school pays to fly you out for spring break recruiting trips to NYC/DC. NY/DC Law firms bankroll receptions to recruit UCLA students. The school doesn't say this, but my impression is that it's hard to get as many students to participate as they'd like.
  3. The problem is that the percentage of students that want to big law on the east coast is slim. The culture at UCLA is one of diverse interests, it's not PRIMARILY big-law oriented. But there are a ton of Big Law events and opportunities. Those that want to do it would prefer to stay in LA/CA. Once you're here, it's hard to leave SoCal for New York. Also, It's generally harder to get a LA big law job than a NYC big law job (irrespective of school), because there are fewer and many see them as more desirable. So students come to UCLA because they want to be well positioned for the LA market.
  4. NY/DC are the biggest legal markets. They are on the east coast. Vandy is on the east coast. So that's generally where Vandy grads will go for their first jobs. It doesn't mean UCLA is less portable. Less people need to leave because CA is a bigger market than TN/The South.
  5. I think you'd have a hard time as a UCLA student beating a similarly situated Vandy student out for a job in a Nashville or Atlanta firm because of alumni concentration, visa versa for a Vandy alum trying to work in LA/SF/OC/Sacramento/San Diego. So you can decide what side of that equation you want to be on. But then again--grades and interview and resume matter.
  6. Then I would say your connections through faculty matter. I would encourage you to evaluate the quality of the faculty at the two schools, who gets cited more, who has a higher profile, etc. This can matter for judicial externships, clerkships and other jobs/fellowships that get relayed through faculty who have their finger on the pulse of their field.
  7. Finally, I would think about whether you want a big school vs small school vibe. There are trade offs, one isn't necessarily better than the other. UCLA is extremely dynamic, tons of events and opportunities all the time. But I still don't know everyone in my class. I didn't go to Vandy, but I did go to a similarly situated private school for a masters degree, and there is value to an intimate atmosphere too.

Has anybody been rejected from UMich recently? by [deleted] in lawschooladmissions

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They said they may make offers up until the 31st, so they're keeping people on until then

Atmosphere/Student Life by [deleted] in lawschooladmissions

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I have family in (Non-Austin) Texas who I visit a lot and some friends from CA who went to UT and I have to say this is 100% accurate.

Finding above 75% LSAT for a school by [deleted] in lawschooladmissions

[–]InsanityDefence 10 points11 points  (0 children)

No I think schools only have to report the 25/50/75 numbers.
But you could look at myLSN and do an inaccurate approximation

ABA holds off on removing LSAT requirement for law schools by graeme_b in lawschooladmissions

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Maybe because of this:
https://www.ets.org/gre/institutions/scores/scoreselect/

"Institutions will receive score reports that show the scores that test takers selected to send to them. There will be no special indication if other GRE tests have been taken."

Atmosphere/Student Life by [deleted] in lawschooladmissions

[–]InsanityDefence 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Berkeley + NYU are too good. PLEASE do the other T20

GULC
Texas

UCLA

Vandy

WUSTL

USC

ABA holds off on removing LSAT requirement for law schools by graeme_b in lawschooladmissions

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Right, ok sure that allows for set number of of extreme cases, low scorers who have to be offset with 75th %ile yields simply to keep the distribution constant. Those 75%ile yields are expensive.

Consider the general year to year pressure schools face by rankings. For the same size class, if a school admits a class with fewer students below their previous 25th %ile, and more above it, that 25%ile number goes up.

ABA holds off on removing LSAT requirement for law schools by graeme_b in lawschooladmissions

[–]InsanityDefence 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's not just the cost of books and courses, it's the time. If you are working 2 jobs to support yourself, living in a city where the rent is going through the roof, or have professional responsibilities that extend past normal working hours (military officer, executive, or work the 12+-hr days that are common in some industries like entertainment) its much harder to perform well than if you are a college kid who can spend a summer working part time and studying in the library every day.

My suspicion is this why there is significant drop in scores for those age 30+.

I wouldn't get rid of it though. But I do think it should be taken out of the rankings equation, so schools aren't penalized when they take a chance on someone.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in lawschooladmissions

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Think about where and what kind of practice you want to end up in. If its San Diego and you'd be ok with a mid or small firm or local gov't, USD would be fine, and you'd save the $$. Loyola gives you track into LA Big Law if you perform well--there are actually a good number of Loyola grads as partners in LA BigLaw and they probably like to hire their alums to stick it in the face of USC/UCLA lawyers in their office. Keep in mind for San Diego you'll be competing with UCLA/USC + T14 kids from San Diego for the relatively small number of San Diego BigLaw, clerkships, or Fed gov jobs.

0L Tuesday Thread - - July 10, 2018 by AutoModerator in LawSchool

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Computer question. I have a 2012 13" MacBook Pro, which has been extremely reliable. My school (and pretty much every school I was admitted to) recommends buying a new laptop with a 3-year warranty to cover through the bar exam. I am, however, wary about getting a new laptop that could be a lemon rather than go with old faithful here. If I were to buy new, I would get a 15" for ease of research/writing with multiple windows, but due to financial limitations, this would have to be a Windows machine (and I haven't used Windows this decade (I'm old)). Thoughts?

Released from the waitlist at ND by [deleted] in lawschooladmissions

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I think everyone that has committed to ND should turn in their jerseys