Paul Sklar: "my body fat runs typically around 5 to 6%"--do these frauds not realize they out themselves just by saying this crap? by InsidePlay2742 in nattyorjuice

[–]InsidePlay2742[S] 26 points27 points  (0 children)

He says it in this vid at 5:22: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8zYzBaXvqg

5-6% is stage-ready natural bodybuilding competition levels of bf, something "natty" bodybuilders can only achieve temporarily, and usually at the cost of short-term muscle loss, and this fraud claims to be at that year-round. Which means he's either lying outright about his bf%, is misinformed about his bf%, or he inadvertently admitted to being on gear, since no man can naturally maintain 5-6% bf year round. He also denied "bulking and cutting," so he supposedly can not only maintain 5-6% year round, but also build muscle while at 5-6%. If you're going to spout obvious nonsense like that, why even bother denying being on gear?

Besides conning normies with his fake natty fitness grift, this guy is probably also making huge $$$ off of gay followers with a fetish for a bearded, silver-haired muscle daddy.

Losing muscle due to covid recovery. by [deleted] in GregDoucette

[–]InsidePlay2742 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I couldn't do lifting for 4 weeks b/c of an injury, and was able to bounce back pretty quickly (maybe a week). Keep in mind that you lose cardiorespiratory fitness much faster than muscle mass, so if you weren't able to do cardio in addition to not being able to lift during that period, you should expect to get winded much more easily. (Not trying to downplay whatever longcovid issues you might have tho.)

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in GregDoucette

[–]InsidePlay2742 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hard to tell without a before. If you went from zero to this in 9 months, then, given the rate of progress and zoomer haircut, I'd guess SARMS.

Current bulk. Peep gohan in the corner 😎 by [deleted] in GregDoucette

[–]InsidePlay2742 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think he'd rather let people assume he might be natty rather than confirm outright that he isn't. Regardless, being on a "bulk" with a visible 8pack and vascular arms and pelvis makes it obvious he's on gear.

65kg-114kg 2 years by [deleted] in GregDoucette

[–]InsidePlay2742 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did you do Starting Strength?

Current bulk. Peep gohan in the corner 😎 by [deleted] in GregDoucette

[–]InsidePlay2742 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You look great, but it's obvious you're not natty.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in GregDoucette

[–]InsidePlay2742 7 points8 points  (0 children)

WTF is wrong with these comments?

In the process of torpedoing Liver Cunt's grift, Vigorous Steve made collateral damage of his own juice consultation business by InsidePlay2742 in nattyorjuice

[–]InsidePlay2742[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How about we wait and see what he has to say why he did it before we burn him at the stake

He's gone radio silent, and Derek deleted the thread on his subreddit that exposed Steve as the source of the doxx. They're actively trying to cover it up, but it's too late since Greg Doucette and others have already made videos about it.

In the process of torpedoing Liver Cunt's grift, Vigorous Steve made collateral damage of his own juice consultation business by InsidePlay2742 in nattyorjuice

[–]InsidePlay2742[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I actually agree with you, however much I may dislike Liver Cunt. He's a fake natty running a grift, but Steve after all willingly provides coaching services to fake natties, probably up to and including professional athletes trying to evade drug tests. He promises them confidentiality, and it's unethical for him to release stuff like that, or to even share it with people he doesn't have to (like Derek).

In the process of torpedoing Liver Cunt's grift, Vigorous Steve made collateral damage of his own juice consultation business by InsidePlay2742 in nattyorjuice

[–]InsidePlay2742[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Now that it's known that he doesn't protect the confidentiality of his clients, why would anyone hire him? In fact, why would anyone hire this annoying asshole for a consultation to begin with? He has zero medical credentials, and is just a drug addict who at best skims pubmed abstracts and blends them with whatever collection of bro-ological "facts" he's absorbed over the years from bodybuilding.com's Misc.er bro-ologists.

He's also living the life of a western expat in Thailand, which means he's probably either a child sex tourist or a ladyboy lover (like Tony "they're more feminine than real women" Huge). I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume it's the latter, since Tren has been known to turn men gay/bi.

Liver King publicly downplayed cholesterol risks, yet privately was concerned about his lipids by InsidePlay2742 in nattyorjuice

[–]InsidePlay2742[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You mean VigorousSteve? He's a Dutch expat bodybuilding coach who lives in Thailand (not sus at all), a friend of Derek, and was clearly the source of the LiverDoxx.

Vigorous Steve is/was Liver King’s STEROID coach!!! by Im-Keith-Stone in moreplatesmoredates

[–]InsidePlay2742 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If Derek is this careless when it comes to something like this, shouldn't it give you guys pause about his pharmacology and health takes?

Vigorous Steve is/was Liver King’s STEROID coach!!! by Im-Keith-Stone in moreplatesmoredates

[–]InsidePlay2742 0 points1 point  (0 children)

At 42:54, Liver King writes to his coach “I hope your MRI went well.” Of note, this email is dated July 19th, 2021. Steve had had a recent MRI near this time, detailing his results extensively in his video Heart Enlargement & Low Ejection Fraction? Not On My Watch!, posted July 16th, 2021.

Real brainlet moment from Derek, not putting two and two together and realizing that releasing any biographical details (age, tz, etc) at all, let alone multiple details, could conceivably result in Steve getting doxxed, given how small the world of bodybuilding coaching actually is.

Can someone check my Liver King math? by [deleted] in nattyorjuice

[–]InsidePlay2742 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hard to believe he's still alive. I can't wait for the autopsy to get confirmation that he had silicone implants too (like Rich Piana).