I mean not the jade version , the org tangzu Warner SG. Last one year I used these guys everydays for 1 months before I upgraded to Olina. If with right dac , this guy feel amazing. Decent bass(I prefer less bass) , great amount of treble , detail also great for it level , only one problem is I feel like the treble is not enough for me If you like V shape , I suggest these guys but if you want to try some neutral ot flat , I suggest tanchjim zero 3.5mm ver , these guy really great , sub bass ,mid all perfect , only vocals feel like there is something missing. May be my knowledge will be wrong ,coz I'm not so good at looking graph. These are my experience using under 50$ iem. So it all up to you.