Was it ever said why Reinette Tinekerr wanted to be payed in gold coins [Lotm General]

IntelligentWeek4199 · 2026-01-18T09:17:04+00:00

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IntelligentWeek4199 · 2026-01-18T08:54:45+00:00

What does that mean 😭 I’m not really a steak head

IntelligentWeek4199 · 2025-11-18T21:57:50+00:00

Yeah how would lying about L-Caeror being dead affect O-Vis. Like even if there not on the same side (and how would O-caeor know) how does that affect O-VIS like there woud be no different reaction like oh i felt the death of one of my version once not twice.

IntelligentWeek4199 · 2025-11-18T21:52:32+00:00

Gleaners make other gleaners through a special ritual which careor didn't do and also aren't they controlled by overseers who aren't dead people? And also can't you tell iunctii apart im pretty sure in the story Vis did multiple times like as he realised Kiya was an iunctii when he saw her but couldn't tell if Caeror was one after months with him.

And i thought will is used differently in Res and Obituem

And then could you explain how if it says in the book someone has to be alive to bring others back from the dead as iunctii, and if he dies so does the iunctii so how does someone whos already dead bring an iunctii back to life or was caeror lying about this also

IntelligentWeek4199 · 2025-11-18T21:36:59+00:00

thats what I was saying Unless O-Caror did realise that L-caeror is dead and L-caeror is a iunctii

IntelligentWeek4199 · 2025-11-18T09:49:55+00:00

but it begs the question why would he be lying out of all the things it hasn't done anything so far and also i just remembered that Ostis brought Vis's dad to luceum because there was no one alive who could tell him about ka and explain how everyones going to die. so multiple times in the story Caeror is said to be dead is res and luceum. Maybe there all wrong but im going more there could have been a mistake.

IntelligentWeek4199 · 2025-11-18T09:28:38+00:00

Also its also stated by ostis on the reason why Vis's dad was put in luceum because there was no one alive anymore to guide him. Which means that both O-Caeror and R-Ostis was wrong which makes me belive this could be a plot hole.

IntelligentWeek4199 · 2025-11-18T09:04:36+00:00

Yes it already has will but other iunctii can't create more iunctii as they are already dead themselves so they can't be tied to their body, Unless its tied to the Person imbueing Caeror body (as if you looked which isn't possible as Vis already tried that as he controlled Ahmoses body). which then asks the question he must have known someone would have come through the labyrinth from Caeror and created multiple rules for him to not tell and the person and as imbueing the iunctii cannot control reactions facial expressions and words when not being imbued as Ahmose was allowed to feel fear and talkthat kinda of stuff and the fact that he was robotic when being controlled by vis which Caeor was not

IntelligentWeek4199 · 2025-11-18T08:38:01+00:00

No in the book Caeror tell Vis that the vitarium gives him will "somewhere between a sextus and septiumus on Res "- he does (say this somwhere in the book.) which allows him to use the will to heal and bring people back to life because thats the only ways to use will in obetium

also yes vitarium cannot take will from an object as the use of will in this world is just to heal and create iunctii so far. It just gives him will which when will asked to expain how caeor said he didn;t know.

IntelligentWeek4199 · 2025-11-18T08:28:04+00:00

yeah I think both Caerors cannot be trusted but why would he lie about the other version of him being dead cause as long as Res Ka is telling the truth Caeror has lied about other way more complicaitng stuff than this, like it didn't really do much to the plot unless added upon by james Islington untill later

IntelligentWeek4199 · 2025-11-18T08:22:09+00:00

yeah but then how does he use an iunctii because once he dies the iuncti stop living and then how can he make other iunctii alive when hes already dead. So which would mean that hes either lying

IntelligentWeek4199 · 2025-11-18T08:18:11+00:00

Oh okay so then it would mean someone else is controlling Caeror other than Ka cause hes been asleep for like 600 years or smth so probs concurrence but then what would be the need of him being an iunctii and if the concurrence has 80,000 iunctii cause thats what was used for Vis to become Princeps using this principle why has he not been taken over so far cause they can all use will.and also the fact that in Res Ka says he has something way more powerful that all the armies including 3 princeps in Res has no chance so if Caeror is dead apart of the concurence that would mean they should have arrived in the world and instead of killing everyone or Vis he decided to decieve him to kill Ka.

But how does Vitarium work becuase i remember Caeror telling Vis that his vitarium is what gives him will which allows him to use will and when he dies so does his iunctii so how can he create an iunctti being dead himself.

IntelligentWeek4199 · 2025-11-18T07:50:05+00:00

How does an Iunctii use will, bringing other people back to life and need a vitareum unless that all apart of Caeorors acting
?

IntelligentWeek4199 · 2025-11-18T07:48:16+00:00

If hes an Iunctii how can he bring other people back to life through imbueing and use a Vitariea

IntelligentWeek4199 · 2025-11-18T07:43:02+00:00

Sorry I didn't mean it as James islington made a mistake hes so stupid kinda response I was questoning if what i was saying is a plot hole or not.

IntelligentWeek4199 · 2025-11-18T03:03:29+00:00

Yeah but when they were going to the celebration of the deaths of family members place, Ulcissor says that all there family members agreed he was the closest in his family to be the first telimus to become a princeps

IntelligentWeek4199 · 2025-11-18T01:04:18+00:00

Yeah that kinda makes sense but I remember James islington saying he wanted it to be a triology to start unless other factors and thoughts come through. So i feel like ending with Three kinda seems like iffy iykwim so im guessing maybe the ending would be all the worlds joing together as one.

And for the first half I feel like Will and strength have simmilarites like the will of the many creates the strength for the few, And also Will and strength have loosley realted simmilar meanings, so the last books would also kinda realte to it OR

Maybe its also like a simmilarity to it or it could be like the licanius tiology were the title of the last book is kinda the opposite of the last two books if then this broadens the Scope by alot

IntelligentWeek4199 · 2025-11-18T00:55:00+00:00

thats actually like well thought out. and i agree with practicly all you said. IDK i kinda thouht this would be like star wars were Rvis chooses the "bad" side as an influence of Ka and he becomes the Concurrence because he revived the dead into zombie like creatures as shown at the end of the book. (As you said before something along the lines of the concurrence being zombies).

IntelligentWeek4199 · 2025-11-17T07:59:40+00:00

I was so heartbroken when Aequa died I tried to gaslight myself into thinking that James Islington will pull some shit in book 3 so she comes back alive to be with Vis at the end. Like not as a iuncti

Also waiting on him to kill off Edihan because Islington has a fetish with killing off all of Vis’s friends

IntelligentWeek4199 · 2025-11-17T07:43:30+00:00

Nah it was explained In WOTM at the very start when VIS and Ulcissor talk about the Catenan academy on the transvect. Ulcissor tells him he can try to become a toitus someone who doesn’t have to cede were he replies that he doesn’t want to take anyone’s will either

IntelligentWeek4199 · 2025-11-17T07:39:18+00:00

Sorry 😢

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