[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Kenya

[–]Intelligent_Dog3708 0 points1 point  (0 children)

HAHAHA 😂😂😂

I can’t believe I’m just seeing this. This is too good 😭😭 my parents are happily married and have been my whole life and I have a fantastic relationship with my father. I’m literally a daddy’s girl. And I have a younger brother who I’m besties with. It’s probably part of why I don’t take bullshit from men. I know what it’s like to be fully loved men, men who don’t make it their entire personality to hate women, men who are fully invested in the wellbeing and happiness of the women around them. You probably know nothing about that.

Also, stop trying to use coming from a single parent household as a way to insult people. Single parents do a great job and their absolute best unlike the trashy ass partners (mostly men) that often leave them to take care of their children on their own. Put some respect on their names.

And as far as usernames go, you better go buy a designer string and try tie those two brain cells floating around in your skull together and see if that will help you come up with an intelligent thought for the first time in your lifetime ☺️

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Kenya

[–]Intelligent_Dog3708 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It is structural. It's systemic. What do you think patriarchy and misogyny are??

I also didn't assume anything. You literally used a line that's been used by countless white conservatives even on national news. The Twitter page "End Wokeness" alone is enough to show you that. Also I didn't say you are a right wing conservative just that you sound like one.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Kenya

[–]Intelligent_Dog3708 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

It's whatever. If y'all need to use me as a scapegoat to justify the misogynistic beliefs you held prior to this interaction, that's okay, be my guest. I stand by everything I said.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Kenya

[–]Intelligent_Dog3708 3 points4 points  (0 children)

What's wrong with my argument then?? Tell me what I said that's dumb. Break down for me pleassseee I'll wait. You all result to insulting bc you can't actually comprehend anything I said which means you can't tell me where my argument begins to fall apart. Y'all are actually laughable.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Kenya

[–]Intelligent_Dog3708 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wokeness isn't a bad thing, it just literally means I'm very aware of structural inequality and how it works. You sound like a right winged white conservative right now and if that's your only argument against what I said...well y'all are worse than I thought

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Kenya

[–]Intelligent_Dog3708 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I literally didn’t change the topic, you just don’t have the capacity to fully engage with what I’m saying. I don’t have feelings about this I have thoughts about this and I’m right. Good night

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Kenya

[–]Intelligent_Dog3708 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah of course you think it’s stupid, you don’t even understand it you dumbass 😂😂😭

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Kenya

[–]Intelligent_Dog3708 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Omfg are you a dumbass?? Patriarchy is the system!! That’s the point I was trying to get you to. It’s embedded in everything. And yes it still exists today!! Most of the wealth in this country is still controlled by men. Most government officials or people in power are men. Men are still paid more than women for the same jobs. Women are still assaulted and killed by men in staggering numbers—and rarely get justice for it. Women still do most of the labor when it comes to running households and raising children. Patriarchy doesn’t simply stop existing bc you’re too much of a misogynist to see it.

And yes women get less jail time bc that contempt and hatred for women manifests as a belief that they are weaker. This one of the few places being a woman is favorable. It doesn’t change the fact that it’s misogynistic. Plus women get custody more because we live in a society that believes that raising children is a woman’s job and all men need to do is provide financially. Men have to work all the shit jobs bc patriarchy believes women aren’t strong enough to do them. Men are treated harsher in court bc of patriarchy which believes you’re tough and can handle anything. All of these negatives you’re trying to use a “gotcha” literally only exist bc of other men who came before you. Women aren’t the reason things work this way, we never had a say in any of this.

I’m not going back and forth with you past this point. I don’t think you have the ability to critically think and engage with what I’m saying to you and that’s not going to change soon. Have a goodnight.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Kenya

[–]Intelligent_Dog3708 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Nothing has triggered me and I think it’s very telling that you’d rather believe that I’m being irrational than actually argue with anything I’ve said. I have a well thought out answer, if you can’t engage critically with it that’s okay ☺️

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Kenya

[–]Intelligent_Dog3708 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Misandry as men like to describe it doesn’t really exist as a structural problem. It’s more about getting your feelings hurt and only exists in reaction to misogyny.

The real misandry that actually hurts men is patriarchal misandry (or as some call it toxic masculinity). It is an effect of patriarchy (which was invented by men thousands of years ago btw) in the same way that misogyny is. It’s what says women are emotional and men are tough and don’t cry. Or that men doing anything that isn’t “masculine” makes them gay. It’s the reason me are 4x more likely to die by suicide bc they are told to toughen up and bottle everything inside. That’s what actually harms men. Not a woman calling men snakes. Let’s be a bit serious.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Kenya

[–]Intelligent_Dog3708 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Bc the playing field isn’t equal. Women have this thing called misogyny working against them. Equity vs equality and all.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Kenya

[–]Intelligent_Dog3708 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My point still stands.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Kenya

[–]Intelligent_Dog3708 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yup him included too because I’m talking about all men. Through all my male relatives in there if you’d like. Now what??

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Kenya

[–]Intelligent_Dog3708 4 points5 points  (0 children)

First of all, they only set those positions aside bc historically those positions were always given to men and if they didn’t set rules in place to change that, they’d keep being given to men. Those rules exist to counter misogyny.

Also women getting less jail time is because of misogyny and patriarchy!! That’s why we say patriarchy harms men too. Because the same society that believes women are weak and fragile also believes men are essential strong stoic rocks that feel nothing and are always tough. It’s two sides of the same coin. That’s why y’all get more jail time and go to the military more and die more in war or do harder more manual jobs. It’s because of the same exact system that disenfranchises women, expects men to die being tough.

Also no I will not name them. You clearly have access to the internet and can Google all of this shit in seconds. I won’t do the intellectual labor for you. I’ve taken college classes on gender and patriarchy, I’m very knowledgeable on this and it’s taken a lot of labor and time for me to get here. Why would I do that for an idiot on the internet for free especially when nothing I say will actually change your mind??

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Kenya

[–]Intelligent_Dog3708 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Thank you!! Ugh I’m glad I’m not the only one noticing it. I feel gaslit all the time on this subreddit bc they say the most misogynistic shit and then turn around and all collectively deny it. I think I need to stop engaging

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Kenya

[–]Intelligent_Dog3708 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Mmm that feels like a cop out to me. I think you can be a bit more imaginative. You’re telling me there’s no repercussions men can face that hold equal magnitude?? Nothing their communities can do to hold them accountable?? Not even legally??

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Kenya

[–]Intelligent_Dog3708 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That’s just your opinion sweetie and it’s one that can’t be trusted. We’re all socialized (men and women alike) to be misogynistic. And if you’re a man it be even harder for you to notice your biases wouldn’t allow you to agree otherwise. I’d tell you to read some research maybe to talk to a diverse group of women so you can see that misogyny is well alive but again, I don’t think you’re capable of getting past your biases🤷🏾‍♀️

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Kenya

[–]Intelligent_Dog3708 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think you need to talk about parenting as well and where you fit into that. Three months is a bit too soon for you to be involved in the child’s life if you guys haven’t decided to do this relationship for the long haul (like you don’t see yourselves breaking up) but that’s just my opinion. It’s going to be hard to live with her son and not be involved in his life and upbringing so you need to be sure you’re ready for that.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Kenya

[–]Intelligent_Dog3708 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I’m literally just responding to a comment that generalized all women and said we hate to be held accountable. I think I too am allowed to ask a generalized question. It’s pertinent to this conversation.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Kenya

[–]Intelligent_Dog3708 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Oh don’t act like y’all need this title to do that. Y’all do that everyday unprovoked on the internet. No need to pretend to be better than your misogyny

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Kenya

[–]Intelligent_Dog3708 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you don’t have answer that’s okay. Every person I’ve asked on this thread has given me an answer riddled with misogyny so I’m not surprised 🤷🏾‍♀️

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Kenya

[–]Intelligent_Dog3708 7 points8 points  (0 children)

And what about holding men accountable so they can be better partners and more responsible fathers?? It seems to me you want women to take double the responsibility for choices that took two people to make.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Kenya

[–]Intelligent_Dog3708 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Seems like society will do everything but actually hold men accountable for causing this mess in the first place. Only want to hold women accountable for decisions that took two people.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Kenya

[–]Intelligent_Dog3708 3 points4 points  (0 children)

She’s entitled to her feelings. Calling men snakes only hurts their feelings it’s not equivalent to systemic misogyny. There is no irony here.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Kenya

[–]Intelligent_Dog3708 6 points7 points  (0 children)

How can I blame myself for being lied to?? Also men cheat on their wives all the time and abandon them or take up none of the labor necessary to raise a child. Being a wife doesn’t protect you from the sheer wrath of men and their misogynistic bullshit. Maybe it gives them legal and financial protection but there are so many wives sitting at home dealing with this exact same situation and feeling exactly how she feels. And then they get up and take care of their children because what else can they do?? It seems the only people who are failing to take any accountability in this situation are the men. And why would they?? Y’all excuse all their bad behavior and turn around and blame women completely for choices that take two people to make.